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I'm not sure which University to attend, help?

^^^ And I should point out that he doesn't make much money despite having a better academic resume than all of us.

Another friend I have rakes it in with a Bachelor's in accounting from a relatively unknown school.

Focus on your engineering major (that's a useful degree with a rigorous curriculum), go to the school that makes most sense for you, intern to build your resume, and you'll turn out fine.

Don't worry about prestige.
 
Cal Poly's engineering program is pretty legit so I would recommend going there. Then again I'm also bias since I went there.
 
When you're applying to graduate school (and if there are exceptions, please, correct me) you're applying to a specific program. It's not a general admission into the graduate school for that university. So, while you may manage to get into Harvard, etc., I find it unlikely you'd be admitted for both engineering and political science. Moreover, what kind of job are you hoping to get that would combine engineering and political science in such a way as to justify the astronomical cost of tuition at one of the schools you mentioned? You're realistically looking at 2-3 years per program, so roughly double the cost it sounds like you were expecting.

Considering the cost of a school like Harvard or Princeton, why are you concerned about a few thousand dollar swing between the cost of Cal Poly SLO versus CSU Long Beach, for instance?

Also, computer science isn't the type of degree people generally get as a stepping stone to something else. It can be an extremely technical, time intensive program, so if you're not serious about wanting to be a software developer, you'll probably burn out very quickly.
 
I went to Channel Islands for my undergrad and I f'ng loved that school

My friend is going there now but I've heard it's not a great school and that it is ridiculously easy to get into. I've heard the campus and the people are nice though. Seems like it's in a really chill area.
 
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My friend is going there now but I've heard it's not a great school and that it is ridiculously easy to get into. I've heard the campus and the people are nice though. Seems like it's in a really chill area.

All the cal states are easy/ have the same requirements.

The science programs there are great... Great profs in the bio and Chem departments. Can't speak for other departments

But yeah the location is great
 
What career do you eventually want to pursue?
 
University of Pheonix might be good...
 
I was born and raised in California and I'm 20 years old.

My plan is a little complicated but basically I want to obtain both an Engineering degree and a Political Science degree from a prestigious school such as MIT, Harvard, Stanford, Yale, Princeton, Columbia.

As of now I only have my G.E.D and a Culinary Arts certificate so obviously I won't be able to afford a prestigious school but I was thinking that first I should obtain a Bachelors at a low cost university so I can get a well paying job then try to get Masters degrees later on at top universities.

I think I need a job that allows me to work in my dorm(so I don't have to commute to work which leaves me more time for studying) and a job that I can work at night(so I can study throughout the day), it seems that these are the only jobs that fit my needs:

Computer Programmer
Computer Support Specialist
Customer Service Representative

I think if I get a Computer Science degree I can obtain one of these jobs.

I was researching all the low cost universities in the California Public University System and calculated the Tuition, Fees, Room and Board in each one of the schools and came up with this chart, most Universities make it mandatory to buy the board with your housing but some don't which is why some of them are so cheap.

$11892 Bakersfield
$12213 Monterey bay
$12236 Dominguez hills
$12749 San Bernardino
$13182 Humboldt
$14331 Stanislaus
$14743 San Luis Obispo
$14764 Sonoma
$15039 San Marcos
$16174 Chico
$16902 Fresno
$17200 Fullerton
$17479 Northridge
$18292 Maritime Academy
$18332 long beach
$18629 san Diego
$18810 East Bay
$18852 Channel Islands
$19178 Los Angeles
$19232 San Francisco
$19724 Pomana
$20085 San Jose
$22913 Sacramento

I was going to try to get into Bakersfield University because it was the cheapest one but I recently discovered that prestigious schools often do not except people who went to universities that is not very well known so I am not sure which one I should go to.

Does anyone have any advice?

CLIFFS:
1. Be a perfect student and get into your dream graduate program.
2. Undergrad do your best to keep it costless while attending a good, not decent, good CS Uni.
3. Get PhD make them dollas!
4. I dont know anyone with a masters in CS or Engineering. Wait...thats a lie two of my bros but they stayed with their same firms. Also one went to Northwestern University and one went to University of Chicago.

Skip Poly Sci it wont do you any good and you will only be distracted.

Go CC, keep grades super high for two years. Work with CS Profs that are publishing. Do any shit work you can. I mean sweep floors do whatever. This is just for a letter of rec, and some phone calls to peers, colleagues in the field. Maybe its good for some pick up work and nothing more. Get recognized though, glad hand, always be nice, super nice to everyone, EVERYONE!

Apply to six uni's for your last three years. I don't know your SAT or your HSGPA but Id say if you look good on paper, and you want to stay in Cali go 2, 2, 2 for CIT, Stanford, Berkeley, UCLA, USC; two mid tier schools that have decent CS profs Irvine, San Diego; two lower tiered schools Davis, Santa Barbara.

During your two years at CC you should be visiting departments, glad handing, offering to learn for free, showing up to open lectures and just making it known you want to be involved. Especially at SU, CIT and Berko. Again this isnt for shit else except brand recognition. Get your name out there. Once you get in, work for Profs who are publishing, publish with them in any and all journals. If you can get two, even if they are in press youll be good to go.

Once you are done, work for three years. While you work stay in touch with the profs who gave you opportunities to help them in their labs. Continue to help them, continue to publish and help them publish. Ask if they know people at the top ten CS schools in the world not just the US. Can we possibly do a project with XYZ Professor at ABC University. Your second year working you should be looking at taking your GRE and applying to grad school. Things are removed a year, ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT. You apply in AUG, for entry next AUG. Also remember the GRE is easy to crack, just sit your ass down and study. Take the GRE, and the math subject or physics or maybe both. Check with the departments you want to apply to.

Get all your ducks in a row, good CV which youll have because you have put in time working, and publishing somewhat, or at least posters and research, youll have good recs, one from your CC person who you have been close to at this point for five years. One from your professor who helped you finish your undergrad and let you publish. one from that grad student who loved your help, especially now that they are probably an ASST prof at some uni, and one from your boss who you have been working for the last two years.

After ducks are gathered, apply to the top ten programs. Wait for the offers to roll in, CHOOSE THE ONE THAT GIVES YOU THE MOST MONEY TO ATTEND. Dont forget to play them against each other and ask about travel funds and summer funding, get it all in writing. Then work hard, work hard, PLAY HARDER, work hard, work hard, PLAY HARDER for 5-7 years. Graduate get job at Uni fight for Tenure the rest of your life. Actually if you are smart and in grad school some big tech will offer you well into the six figures right after ABD. Also the expectation from your field, in terms of the PhD is that you go private, most do not go public, Engineers put in all that time, they dont like to struggle financially after the degrees.

You can go the masters route too, I don't know anyone with a MSCS/ENG though I only know BSCS/ENG or PhD students/ candidates.
 
All the cal states are easy/ have the same requirements.

The science programs there are great... Great profs in the bio and Chem departments. Can't speak for other departments

But yeah the location is great
Well, more or less. I guess it depends on the major and how impacted it is. I think the reaaon why CSUCI was more lenient is because it is a relatively new school and they are just trying to get more people. For example, I know SLO, SJSU, SDSU, and CSULB are all pretty competitive (nowhere near as competitive as UCs or Ivies).
 
Assuming that you have the baseline test scores, being different from the 99% cookie cutter applicant increases your chances of getting in, which includes non-traditional students with GEDs, spectacular failures or something completely off the wall. I know guys with GEDs who went to Ivies, I know guys who started at no name schools and kept transferring up till they ended up both Ivy and Oxbridge degrees. It depends how well you package and tell your story. One way or another, it's not possible without the scores. You need the scores, period.

Unless you parents are loaded, pretty much all top shelf, elite private schools are always cheaper than local state schools. If you're poor, they're essentially free, inclusive of room and board. The only thing you have to pay for is transportation to and from school.

Corollary to the above, unless you're doing some sort of fifth year's master's program, you will always be paying full sticker price for the master's (unless it's a part of a funded doctorate), so it's actually cheaper to do your undergrad at the elite private school, master's at your local public.

The name on the degree not mattering and/or only the name on your last degree isn't true. The name on the degree can open a lot of doors. Especially so if you're being hired to work internationally, in roles that will require socialization, even in engineering positions. When you are hiring from top end, you are also buying access to that hiree's network.

BTW, my bachelor's degrees are in poli sci and engineering. IMO, the poli sci degree is useless, but when I was younger, I know that the degree being on the CV had some influence in hiring decision because more than once, I've shown up for a project/job and had someone remark something along the lines of, "Oh, you're that polyvalent fellow we were told about." That said, it's not worth it if the only reason you're doing it is for that slight edge. OTOH, I had my own reasons and my own path. If you really have an academic interest, there's no reason not to double major in completely different fields of study.
 
Ok I'm starting to understand how unlikely it is to got to schools such as MIT or Harvard so I think I'll try a school with a higher acceptance rate.

I found this website called U.S.NewsEducation.com that ranks Universities, recently I have been looking at the top ranked schools that have an acceptance rate above 20% and I found that these 4 schools were on top and in the same rank for Engineering:

Georgia Institute of Technology
Purdue University
 
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Over / under on TS dropping out of community college by his third semester?
 
Did any of you guys actually read my post?

I said I wanted to get a bachelors at a low cost University FIRST then try getting into a prestigious school later, I didn't say I was going directly to Harvard with a G.E.D! :mad:

You don't get into grad school at an Ivy or Ivy level school by getting a 4 year degree from a "low cost university." It happens and everything is possible but let's pick any of the Ivies and imagine that you are a graduate from it and want to get in your school's graduate school. You are competing with your classmates, and the members of the other Ivies and the little Ivies and the Southern Ivies and MIT, Stanford and about twenty other top colleges. You better have a great record or it isn't going to happen. You might have to drop down to the grad school at the low cost university. The bachelors from the low cost university have to jump over all of those other people plus the many students from Asia and the rest of the world.

You didn't say what your SAT schools were? Later you will be taking an appropriate test for grad schools, based on the type of school.
 
What is sad is the lack of guidance provided by ...guidance departments at high schools. Most people are unaware of the number of spots that are going to go to prep school students and foreign students at the top schools. The competition is intense.
 
All the cal states are easy/ have the same requirements.

The science programs there are great... Great profs in the bio and Chem departments. Can't speak for other departments

But yeah the location is great

Can you elaborate on why the CSUs are easy? It seems to be the general consensus that they are, and that the UCs are tougher. Yet everyone I know who went to a UC school is fucking retarded, while those I know who went to CSU are seemingly pretty smart. Is it just that UC has more stringent requirements for admission, or the classes are harder?
 
Can you elaborate on why the CSUs are easy? It seems to be the general consensus that they are, and that the UCs are tougher. Yet everyone I know who went to a UC school is fucking retarded, while those I know who went to CSU are seemingly pretty smart. Is it just that UC has more stringent requirements for admission, or the classes are harder?

I just meant admissions. Classes are similar in difficulty. I think cal states have much better teaching since cal states are a lot more teaching based and uc a lot more research based. Lots of profs from uc could give a crap about teaching and treat it like a chore, they only care about research
 
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