Democrat Congresswoman Calls Millions Of Americans "Domestic Security Threats"

Seems to me that with their recent ad campaign, the NRA is openly calling on the gov't to use violence to silence political dissent.
Hmm. Can you post a link on that Jack? I get the NRA feed on my Facebook, and I have yet to see anything that looks like a call to use violence to silence dissent. Of course, it may just be my feed not picking up on those.
 
I'm a member, the NRA represents me, and my interests very well.

Saying the NRA doesn't represent gun owners/members simply isn't a complete analysis of the organization.

What would lead you to make such an assertion?



I'm a gun owner myself, and I'm not a member nor do I agree with them on a lot of past issues -but I do understand why they're necessary.
 
I would love it even more if your post actually proved what you thought it did.

You haven't disproven the fact that the Nazis were socialists.

What you've done, is a poor attempt at redefining socialism into something more agreeable.

If you come with something a little better than your own made-up definitions, then we'll continue this conversation.

Until then, travel well friend.

You are equating fascism with elements of socialism as being a pure form of socialism.

If this is your definition of socialism, then America is socialist too, and just about every country in the world, for that matter, because I'll bet you can't name one that doesn't have some socialistic elements to them.

Just because a Ferrari and a Honda both have tires, doesn't make them the same car.
 
So neither of us is concerned with armed insurrection. Cool.

Only a comic book reading fantasist thinks they would stand a chance against government troops with a Walmart purchased pea shooter.

The targeted assassination of a government official on the other hand...
 
I would love it even more if your post actually proved what you thought it did.

You haven't disproven the fact that the Nazis were socialists.

What you've done, is a poor attempt at redefining socialism into something more agreeable.

If you come with something a little better than your own made-up definitions, then we'll continue this conversation.

Until then, travel well friend.

From an economical standpoint, what about socialism failed the Third Reich that isn't confined to their war/genocide efforts?
 
The transcript is really bad on its own. Combined with a pissed off, urgent narrator and violent imagery, it's 100 times worse.

I disagree with this point of view regarding the video.

The message was purposefully intense to make a point. Nothing more.

I don't always agree with Dana's antics or her comments on the topic of the day, but blatant bias is obvious on both sides and it's very easy to infer incorrectly on this and many other NRA-backed takes.
 
its not taking responsibility when you use the actions of others to excuse your own. Just saying. And did Jack use the term "transcript" to deflect from the fact that the video included visual images intended to illicit a response, or did he just quote the transcript as a means of dissecting its content?

Of course it was intended to illicit a response. Just like it was intended to make a point.

I don't care what Jack did . . . I simply point out that I'm not the only poster who used the transcript.

I've already told you why I posted it . . . was that answer not good enough for you?

The fact of the matter is, this is a commercial, with images, meant to set a tone to illicit a specific response. The text alone does not tell the whole story. You know this, but are pretending not to.

I'm not pretending about anything . . . you are free to respond to this however you like. Just like those of us who disagree are free to tell you we think you're wrong.
 
NRA doesn't equal Gun Owners. NRA is the Gun Manufacturer Lobby outfit.
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The NRA is a terrorist organization in one sense: their entire purpose is to keep gun owners terrified that their gun rights will be taken away... so they will buy more guns. Literally, my entire adult life, not a single year has gone by when the NRA weren't beating the drum that guns were about to be taken away. Now here we are 30 years laters and there are more than 300,000,000 guns in the US... and the NRA is still telling people that the 2nd Ammendment is under attack. Lol.
 
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Of course it was intended to illicit a response. Just like it was intended to make a point.

I don't care what Jack did . . . I simply point out that I'm not the only poster who used the transcript.

I've already told you why I posted it . . . was that answer not good enough for you?



I'm not pretending about anything . . . you are free to respond to this however you like. Just like those of us who disagree are free to tell you we think you're wrong.
You were hiding behind the transcript. You don't have to admit it, it's obvious.
 
I disagree with this point of view regarding the video.

The message was purposefully intense to make a point. Nothing more.

Sure. That point being that liberals are evil monsters who should be feared and maybe killed.
 
That wasn't too difficult.
Ok those I didn't see those when I posted. Yea, I can agree that those are approaching a line that should not be crossed. Sadly listening to them, its the kind of thing could drive a mentally unstable person to do something tragic, and the NRA would catch the blame. Rightfully so.
 
I basically feel the same way. I support the 2A but the corporate infiltration of the NRA is quite bothersome.

It makes it difficult for me to even want to purchase a firearm knowing it's going to the manufacturers that are funding them. The NRA is no different than the military complex profiteers who stoke Islamophobia just to encourage popular support for mass murder.
 
Sure. That point being that liberals are evil monsters who should be feared and maybe killed.

Yes Jack. That's one way to see it . . . doesn't mean you're correct.

But I'm sure you'll blame the NRA for whatever happened in Charlottesville . . .
 
You were hiding behind the transcript. You don't have to admit it, it's obvious.

I don't have to admit it because it isn't true . . . but whatever makes you feel bigger and better.
 
It makes it difficult for me to even want to purchase a firearm knowing it's going to the manufacturers that are funding them. The NRA is no different than the military complex profiteers who stoke Islamophobia just to encourage popular support for mass murder.

So funding manufacturers is ok but funding manufacturers who promote manufacturing is bad?

Your last sentence is hard to make sense of.
 
It makes it difficult for me to even want to purchase a firearm knowing it's going to the manufacturers that are funding them. The NRA is no different than the military complex profiteers who stoke Islamophobia just to encourage popular support for mass murder.

Have you ever purchased a gun? Money changes several times before it gets to the actual manufacturer, and I'm sure if you looked at the financials of the larger corporations you could see just how much they give to the NRA and similar organizations. Just as you could check out the NRA's books to see how much is from members vs. business or manufacturers.

Do you ever think twice about buying another product based on who makes it and what group they might support or donate to?
 
Have you ever purchased a gun? Money changes several times before it gets to the actual manufacturer, and I'm sure if you looked at the financials of the larger corporations you could see just how much they give to the NRA and similar organizations. Just as you could check out the NRA's books to see how much is from members vs. business or manufacturers.

Do you ever think twice about buying another product based on who makes it and what group they might support or donate to?

Yes and yes
 
So funding manufacturers is ok but funding manufacturers who promote manufacturing is bad?

Your last sentence is hard to make sense of.

Funding manufacturers who promote violence for profit is bad, yes.

I don't know what you don't understand.
 
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