Columbus statue covered up in LA, Columbus Day removed and replaced by Indiginous Peoples Day

Should Columbus Day be removed and replaced with Indigenous Peoples Day?


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yous guys have to come to NY during the Fall for the Feast of San Gennaro

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We should have holidays for the Japanese and Viking explorers who found America hundreds of years before Columbus.
 
yous guys have to come to NY during the Fall for the Feast of San Gennaro

quality sauseeg & peppers, & motherfucking divine prosciutto bread. oof, madon'.

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Tell me, what is "gabaggol"? That's how I assume it's spelled because of the way Paulie Walnuts says it. What is it?
 
Who gives a fuck.

The only people that observe it are government employees and banks.

Do schools even have off for it?
 
Tell me, what is "gabaggol"? That's how I assume it's spelled because of the way Paulie Walnuts says it. What is it?



it's just thinly sliced pork. usually served as an appetizer. Italian food will always help you cultivate mass.
 
Who gives a fuck.

The only people that observe it are government employees and banks.

Do schools even have off for it?


every other year I think.

same for us at work (not a government employee).
 
Lol, "indiginous peoples day". Break out the lysol and paperbag wine.
 


Alright, you bunch of goofballs, I see it is once again that time of year where I have to educate you all once again as to the real story of Cristobal Columbo, AKA Christopher Columbus. The modern story of Christopher Columbus as it is told, the story of genocide and what not, comes entirely for Howard Zinn, who on top of being a huge Liberal is a massive and well documented liar. Zinn's entire account of the Columbus tale not only incorrectly claims that Columbus was responsible for committing genoicide on the Taino and exterminating them from the earth (despite the fact that they still exist all across South America today) but tells the story that this was the only tribe that Columbus encountered. This is not true. Columbus dealt with at least 3 tribes of Natives in Haiti, the Arawaks, the Taino and the Carib. The Carib and the Taino were the ones dealt with the most, as the Taino where seen by Columbus and his men as wealthy and properous, and the Carib constantly attacked them and more than likely engaged in Cannibalism. Early on in their interactions Columbus and his men essentially served as muscle for the Taino as they fought against the Carib, and the absolutely enslaved natives and put them to work in the mines. The natives they enslaved were Carib and Arawaks captured in fights against the Taino. The claim that he and his men killed millions of people is beyond preposterous. He never had more than a few hundred soldiers, if that, with him at any given time. Secondly, Columbus had a Priest with him during his second voyage and afterward named Bartolome De Las Casas. De Las Casas was one of the main witnesses against Columbus when he was eventually put on trial later in his life for the very same crimes that Zinn is accusing him of today. One of the main pieces of evidence against him was a "secret" journal that De Las Casas had taken of Columbus' that he sent back to Spain along with other reports on the situation in Haiti about the crfimes Columbus was allegedly committing. This Journal was the basis for much almost all of Zinn's work. Just a slight problem though. The journal was written in beautiful hand writing, in gramatically perfect Latin and Greek. Columbus, however was an unducated peasant who could barely write legibly in Italian or Spanish, the only two languages that he spoke. Columbus was exonerated for the crimes that he is still accused of to this day by people like Zinn WHILE HE WAS STILL ALIVE IN THE LATE 1400S.

Columbus wrote in his personal journals about raping young Native girls and roasting other Natives alive. While I always regarded him as an indefensible piece of shit, I have a college friend who ended up studying Columbus and teaches courses on him, and he enlightened me to just what an exceptional piece of shit Columbus was.

Yeah, color me shocked that reactionaries lovingly praise a pedophile torturer, if the alternative is having to yield to any change in society that is not to your comfort and/or benefit.
 
Who gives a fuck.

The only people that observe it are government employees and banks.

Do schools even have off for it?

Yeah, we had it off growing up.

Also, I personally give a fuck to the extent that whitewashed American history is cancerous and leads to the ignorant, blind, and ham-fisted nationalism that is the bane of all humanity.
 
Yeah, we had it off growing up.

Also, I personally give a fuck to the extent that whitewashed American history is cancerous and leads to the ignorant, blind, and ham-fisted nationalism that is the bane of all humanity.

I assumed people would still learn about it in school.
 
Who gives a shit about Columbus day. Has nothing to do with America. A day to celebrate and commerate the native people's seems better than Columbus day, if you're gonna do a day at all.

What did the Native people ever do for you?
 
I cannot in good faith celebrate the indigenous people because of their atrocities against otherindigenous people
 
Thats the point, his calculations were way off, he thought the world was much smaller than what it actually was, which is why nobody undertook said voyages.

If it wasnt for America being in the middle of the way he would had either died or faced a mutiny and have people go back.

Such is the nature of exploration, everyone was dealing with all sorts of hypotheticals. Risk takers use what they have and take a calculated risk which hardly is ever done without all sorts of unforeseen outcomes and consequences.

The stakes were incredibly high as the disaster that inspired the search fo longitude highlights.

This happened in 1707, well after Columbus, and within known waters and experienced sailors. Could have easily happened to the Columbus operation. Many expeditions left never to be heard of again.

https://www.cmpod.net/all-transcripts/marine-navigation-scilly-islands-disaster-text/

Between 1500 and 2000 sailors died that night. It was one of the most horrible marine tragedies in British history. The sailors’ bodies washed ashore for days, a terrifying reminder to a terrible navigation error. The British mourned their men for months.

The Scilly Islands tragedy exposed a well known but complicated conundrum, known as “The Longitude Problem”. Actually, it did much more than expose it: It encouraged the British to solve it, which led to a dramatic revolution in the marine navigation field – a revolution that was a milestone of world globalization as we know it today.
 
Such is the nature of exploration, everyone was dealing with all sorts of hypotheticals. Risk takers use what they have and take a calculated risk which hardly is ever done without all sorts of unforeseen outcomes and consequences.

The stakes were incredibly high as the disaster that inspired the search fo longitude highlights.

This happened in 1707, well after Columbus, and within known waters and experienced sailors. Could have easily happened to the Columbus operation. Many expeditions left never to be heard of again.

https://www.cmpod.net/all-transcripts/marine-navigation-scilly-islands-disaster-text/

Between 1500 and 2000 sailors died that night. It was one of the most horrible marine tragedies in British history. The sailors’ bodies washed ashore for days, a terrifying reminder to a terrible navigation error. The British mourned their men for months.

The Scilly Islands tragedy exposed a well known but complicated conundrum, known as “The Longitude Problem”. Actually, it did much more than expose it: It encouraged the British to solve it, which led to a dramatic revolution in the marine navigation field – a revolution that was a milestone of world globalization as we know it today.

But it wasnt a calculated risk, it was a Homer .

And for Columbus perspective it sucked in the end, since the Islands were filled with nothing of worth and he couldnt generate enough profit to even pay back his debtors.

He pulled a Homer Simpson.

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I assumed people would still learn about it in school.

Nope, I never did (I went to a lower income public school, so I obviously cannot speak to the experience of everyone). We were taught that guys like Malcolm X were evil murderers, but Columbus was A-okay

But, if you haven't, I would urge you to look into the controversies re textbook material involving Texas Board of Education and other Texas administrative bodies and what they have been putting in, and taking out of, history books. The vast majority of public school textbooks come out of Texas, and the whitewashing is alarming. It's not to the level of that Oklahoma bill (erasing all "anti-patriotic" history), but it's still bad.
 
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