Japan needs migrants badly

That was in response to the notion that Japan's culturally homogeneous society is a better model than that of the United States. I believe the last 100 years has proven that definitively false. That very ethnocentricity that Japan displays manifested itself within the last century in the form of state sanctioned rape, genocide, and unspeakable violence against ethnic minorities or those deemed genetically inferior. Go read about the atrocities committed during the 20th century by the Japanese against the Chinese.

I believe that the United States' model of diversity and controlled immigration is a better model than that of Japan. I say that unabashedly and without hesitation. I believe that the United States is the brightest spot on this planet, and a bulk of our success as a nation has come on the backs of the immigrants that we've welcomed into our country over the last 150 years.
United States is also gigantic and has way more resources than Japan's tiny island. Japan shouldn't the economic power that it is, but with their skills in technology they have managed.

If you took the US population and put them on Japan, it would be a complete nightmare. If you took the Japanese population and put it in US, they would easily be the #1 superpower for a long time.
 
United States is also gigantic and has way more resources than Japan's tiny island. Japan shouldn't the economic power that it is, but with their skills in technology they have managed.

If you took the US population and put them on Japan, it would be a complete nightmare. If you took the Japanese population and put it in US, they would easily be the #1 superpower for a long time.

What are you basing this on? I don't think you can make a random projection like that without pretty convincing supporting evidence.
 
It WAS. At this point, its sort of a free for all. We used to bring in people who wanted to achieve but people don't want to achieve anymore, they want to receive.

I'd trade our system for Japan's in a second considering the era.

What is happening in the West is referred to as many things from Les-Faire Capitalism to Cultural Marxism. But whatever you want to call it, what we are seeing is the desire from on top to create an unhomogenized, divisive, materialistic, consumerist driven free-for-all where anything goes in a race to the bottom.

Sadly the brainwashing and propaganda that comes with this is very powerful and many people are now at the point where they are utterly convinced that wanting to preserve your identity, culture, people and way of of life is not just morally wrong but fundamentally evil.
 
What are you basing this on? I don't think you can make a random projection like that without pretty convincing supporting evidence.
Just based on what they have done with the little they have and what US has done with how much it had.

Despite their much higher population density, every category of crime is significantly lower, life expectancy higher, etc. Now imagine if they had much more land to work with.
 
It WAS. At this point, its sort of a free for all. We used to bring in people who wanted to achieve but people don't want to achieve anymore, they want to receive.

What specific group of immigrants do you feel are not interested in working to achieve?
 
Just based on what they have done with the little they have and what US has done with how much it had.

Despite their much higher population density, every category of crime is significantly lower, life expectancy higher, etc. Now imagine if they had much more land to work with.

The entire histories of these countries would be completely different if they switched locations. You cannot make a statement like that, it's absolutely impossible to make sense of.

That's like saying, "Man, imagine if Luxembourg was Russia, they'd be great!" It just does not work that way.
 
It WAS. At this point, its sort of a free for all. We used to bring in people who wanted to achieve but people don't want to achieve anymore, they want to receive.

I'd trade our system for Japan's in a second considering the era.

You're completely making that up. You will not be able to cite any policy changes to back up your point.
 
http://www.businessinsider.com/japan-fertility-crisis-2017-4
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The daily constraints have made for a worrisome trend. Japan has entered a vicious cycle of low fertility and low spending that has led to trillions in lost GDP and a population decline of 1 million people, all within just the past five years. If left unabated, experts forecast severe economic downturn and a breakdown in the fabric of social life.

Mary Brinton, a Harvard sociologist, tells Business Insider that the situation will get only worse until Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and his cabinet get with the times. Of the ongoing crisis, she says, "This is death to the family.""


They are losing millions in population and trillions of dollars. Husband and wife working 16 hours a day. There's no snoo snoo time.

The only solution I see is for Japan to stop being racist and accept some migrants or see their old bigot ways go extinct. Acceptance or extinction? Your choice!! Thoughts?

Lol, Japan will be proof once again that standard of living and GDP have nothing to do with each other.
 
fake news.

how exactly does a low fertility rate equate to migrants?

the author of that article is a complete imbecile.

japan is fine just the way it is.

fyi, Koran's are not even allowed into the country. if you are in possession of one at customs it will be confiscated.

best country in the world run by the smartest people.
unless you live there you dont know if its fine the way it is.

immigration is a symptom of modern technology and low birth rates because of it.

most young people wont work outside because they are conditioned to stay in doors. technology has comforted people so much that most people refuse to get their hands dirty.

it also makes shit expensive in that people want to save money to get a more comfortable lifestyle.

also..you cant live in the past and the future simultaneously.

people want a homogenous culture then go live in the woods. the internet itself is a form of globalisation.

you cant avoid mixing cultures in the modern world. im not saying this because i want to dilute everyones culture, im saying it because its a fact of life that is hard for allot of people to swallow.

this is the primary reason why i dont agree with most nationalists.

the very moment you go to the store and buy shot from the ethnic food aisle is the moment you buy into multiculturalism.

multiculturalism means multiple cultures and its influences.

globalization means multiculturalism on a global scale.

even if you watch mma you are engaging in multiculturalism.
 
Just based on what they have done with the little they have and what US has done with how much it had.

Despite their much higher population density, every category of crime is significantly lower, life expectancy higher, etc. Now imagine if they had much more land to work with.

Well they tried getting a lot more land but we told them no.

And one of the main reasons Japan is as successful as they are is because of US intervention.

We wrote their constitution, instituted their education system, provided aid and protection. The US lifted Japan up to make sure they wouldn't turn red and show Asia what a Capitalistic, Liberal Democracy can be.
 
Why not they just start cloning like China is working on ?? Then they can keep there superior genetics and keep society from of other religions and diversity.

and in mean time just boost native birthrates.
 
God be with Japan to fight this bullshit.
 
What are you basing this on? I don't think you can make a random projection like that without pretty convincing supporting evidence.

Given access to spare resources through wars of conquest, the Japanese empire did become a mighty super-power, from the small, backwards, shogunate that it had been up until the late 1800's. The growth in a mere 50 years, from a rural, feudal, almost medieval country, isolated from Western influences, to an industrial power-house, was unmatched.

If not for running completely out of resources to fight with in World War 2 (to the point where they could no longer even craft ammunition, or feed soldiers who starved to death), they would've represented an existential threat to America, despite America having more than twice the population, and obviously an immense advantage in natural resources.

There are many reasons to assume that if America had allowed Japan to fully conquer the Koreas, and China, along with much of the rest of Asia, Japan would've grown to a threat that America could not have contended with, due to possessing an equal amount of resources, and conquered populations to draft soldiers/workers from.
 
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This is poor standards. The Gulf countries treat foreign workers like cattle.

Also, there is no industry in Japan like the oil industry, where thousands of workers can be brought in buses and parked in some shithole next to an oil field.


Also, on topic, neo liberal economists are always quick to cry about "lost GDP". But opportunity cost (which is a subjective notion) does not mean cost.
True, it can't be a one to one emulation. But I like to think that if there is a middle ground between the brutal system in the Gulf and the failed integration of Western Europe its Japan that can figure it out. They're pretty intolerant compared to most liberal democracies but compared to places like the Gulf they are much more civilized.
 
Okay..say Islamists like Europe is getting went over there and and try with the whole....acid attacks, rapes, stabbings, bombings...all the, We don't like this change it, we don't like that change it. Sharia law will rule bullshit . Japan would not take kindly to that would they? I'm curious for people's opinion... I feel Japan would smack the shit out of them.

There is a difference between immigrants and refugees. Refugees are more desperate, are not vetted as much and more difficult to control.

Japan has to either find a way to make more Japanese people or let immigrants in. The modern economic capitalist systems seem to have a problem maintaining sufficient populations without immigrants.
 
Well they tried getting a lot more land but we told them no.

And one of the main reasons Japan is as successful as they are is because of US intervention.

We wrote their constitution, instituted their education system, provided aid and protection. The US lifted Japan up to make sure they wouldn't turn red and show Asia what a Capitalistic, Liberal Democracy can be.
They were successful before US intervention. They were a peasant feudal society and became a world power in just a few decades after one revolution. Then after being the only country to be on the wrong end of a nuke they became an economic powerhouse.
 
Why not they just start cloning like China is working on ?? Then they can keep there superior genetics and keep society from of other religions and diversity.

and in mean time just boost native birthrates.

Japan is a democracy though, so people will naturally oppose cloning, at least until it's too late.

They need to do something though.

Japanese cities are crowded because everyone in the small towns moves there. Go to a small town in Japan and it's just old people, and the occasional family.

They don't need any more people in cities, the neon lights effect is too strong though.
 
Japan is a democracy though, so people will naturally oppose cloning, at least until it's too late.

They need to do something though.

Japanese cities are crowded because everyone in the small towns moves there. Go to a small town in Japan and it's just old people, and the occasional family.

They don't need any more people in cities, the neon lights effect is too strong though.

If the jobs go to the towns, the people will follow.
 
Nah Japan doesn't want to become like Canada, Sweden, England etc...

They'll survive.
 
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