Nganou would murder Fedor

Fedor was beast, Ngannou is beast, we’ll never know how it would have gone down
 
In this era heavy weight are 250 pounds fit monster that could kill you with a slap, that's what happening.
Nobody is going to take down and magically submit Miocic, Velasquez, Werdum, Overeem, Ngannou, this isn't the fantasy world.

Hate to break it to you but....

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i dont think Ngannau is a easy fight for anyone but Fedor certainly had the skillset and speed and power to have his way with him.

Basically when you have good defence and offence in all positions it means your not having to play the "finish him before he finishes you" game that HW has now become.

Again look back in the day and you had lots of fights that went far longer because you have young quick and skilled fighters who could avoid being finished for long enough for things like cardio or subs to be an issue. These days that only really happens if either fighters are lakcing in power or someone has an amazing chin.
 
Not to mention Heath Herring came to the UFC in 2007, far past his best days of 2001 and 2002, and was able to beat this "great UFC fighter" Cheick Kongo in 2008.


Kongo is most famous for his war with Barry, dropping Cain multiple times, and kneeing Mirko in the balls 100 times.

I love how you shit on Kongo at the end but write a novel on how great Fujita is, so dumb and so bias.
 
lol Fedor fanboys are so triggered in this thread that they are now trying to say Cain and Fujita would be a 50/50 fight. Lol retarded ass posters.
 
Fedor would Zulu ngannou. Quit projecting your mandingo crush here
 
Fujita was a national champion wrestler with an iron chin, extremely powerful and nonstop motor. He was never an easy fight.

It ended up being an extremely entertaining fight.

It was a joke of a fight and literally everybody at the time treated it as such. I already proved that. Stop trying to rewrite history just because Fedor had a harder time than expected.
 
I'm sure we will have more than 4 gifs of Ngannou losing by the time he reaches his 40th fight.
Not if he were to face
And you know MMA history and who was in top 10 at what point in time?
Fedor - Fujita fight was on June 8, 2003.

MMA News:
May 4, 2003

1. Emelianenko Fedor
2. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
3. Josh Barnett
4. Tim Sylvia
5. Heath Herring
6. Ricco Rodriguez
7. Wesley Correira
8. Gan McGee
9. Frank Mir
10. Kazuyuki Fujita

https://web.archive.org/web/20030601122330/http://www.mmanews.com:80/rankings/index.shtml
Oh wow, so if MMA news says so it must be true, and he's wasn't a total can either. Pathetic.
 
Fedor was a -1100 favourite, Rampage raced out of his backstage medicals in his own words so he could watch an ass kicking, and the commentators literally joked at the touch of gloves that that was the only punch Fujita would land all night.

Just stop with the revisionist history. It was a complete joke of a fight and everybody was treating it as such.

I remember the touch of gloves thing, but I clearly don't remember Fedor being that huge of a favorite.
Where is this info from?
 
It was a joke of a fight and literally everybody at the time treated it as such. I already proved that. Stop trying to rewrite history just because Fedor had a harder time than expected.

The Pride commentators weren't exactly known for looking up to pro wrestlers though bar Sakuraba and Fujita was also an outsider who hadn't fought in Pride since 2001.

The reality is I'd say that Fujita was a credible opponent but not one of the very top HW's of the era. I'd say actually the match itself was perhaps partly down to Fedor underestimating him, the earlier Fujita was really just a tough wrestler but by 2003 he had developed some heavy handed if not exactly refined boxing.
 
The Pride commentators weren't exactly known for looking up to pro wrestlers though bar Sakuraba and Fujita was also an outsider who hadn't fought in Pride since 2001.

The reality is I'd say that Fujita was a credible opponent but not one of the very top HW's of the era.

Fedor was a -1100 favourite. It wasn’t just the commentators expecting a slaughter.
 
Fedor was a -1100 favourite. It wasn’t just the commentators expecting a slaughter.

A combination of Fedor's status and again a certain underestimation of Fujita I would say.

By comparison GSP was a -1300 favourite over Matt Serra yet still lost although I do think a somewhat similar situation with Serra being a bit underrated because we'd not seen much of his latter career power standing.

Both Fedor and GSP should have been big favourites but not to that degree if the bookies/fans had a better view of their opponents.

A gimmie fight to me is something like Fedor fighting Nagata, Fujita like Serra is I think a game opponent capable of an upset. If you fight such fighters often one or two of them having inspired/lucky moments becomes more likely.
 
A combination of Fedor's status and again a certain underestimation of Fujita I would say.

By comparison GSP was a -1300 favourite over Matt Serra yet still lost although I do think a somewhat similar situation with Serra being a bit underrated because we'd not seen much of his latter career power standing.

Both Fedor and GSP should have been big favourites but not to that degree if the bookies/fans had a better view of their opponents.

A gimmie fight to me is something like Fedor fighting Nagata, Fujita like Serra is I think a game opponent capable of an upset. If you fight such fighters often one or two of them having inspired/lucky moments becomes more likely.

Serra was also a joke of a fight. The opponent doing better than expected doesn’t suddenly change that.
 
rofl... imagine the uproar if Stipe fought a Fujita today.

Of course that was the nature of the sport back in the day, high level fighters were much more active and not every match was against the very highest level of opponent. If Fedor was only fighting say twice a year then someone like Fujita would be viewed as more of a negative.

Fujita today though would I think likely be a top 10 HW, Goodridge probably as well.
 
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Serra was also a joke of a fight. The opponent doing better than expected doesn’t suddenly change that.

Well the joke would be on people who thought that wouldn't it? Serra was an underdog but capable of an upset the same as Fujita. Theres a big difference between that and fighting someone who literally has no chance of winning, especially if your very active and fight a lot of people capable of upsets.

Its less beating Fujita himself that is an achievement and more Fedor experiencing that lighting strike upset position but recovering and finding a way to win, something other fighters talked up as GOATS have failed to do during their primes.

The recent HW division for me is actually setup to maintain the credibility of big names, many of whome are on the decline. Its generally a closed shop with very few new/lesser names getting a shot at the big names who lose to each other.
 
lol please dude, just stop.

He clearly lacks the refined technique of Derrick Lewis and Roy Nelson.

The reality is that "top 10" doesn't mean nearly as much at HW today as it did in the mid/late 00's when all the positions where made up of elite guys.

Do you have anything to add besides undeserved self confidence?
 
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