Al Franken probably will have to resign...

[palerider500]

On the tape he said he doesn't wait for an answer that he just kisses them. You can grab them by the pussy. That is the same shit Franken is accused of.

It seems common sense is still not your strong suit. It's okay, I've learned everyone can be helped even folks with your intellect level.

Most guys just "kiss girls". They do not wait for an answer and ask "Can I kiss you?"

Men MUST take the initiative when it comes to kissing girls. You're just learning this NOW?

He said you CAN grab them by the pussy NOT that he ever did. There is a difference.

And Franken wasn't accused he was SEEN grabbing a woman's breasts. Again, there is a difference.

And the evidence is the women that accuse him of sexual assault and the Miss America contestants who said he walks in unannounced while they were naked.

An accusation is not evidence, it is just that, an ACCUSATION.

Again learn the difference and meaning of words.

And many owners of strip clubs and porn sets walk in on women who are nude in between scenes and acts. That is also not sexual assault.

Again LEARN SOMETHING.

I know, you don't want to believe it, but that doesn't make it so. And we can play that stupid game with Franken. Any DNA evidence? Fingerprints? Nope, just a photo that could have been photoshopped! He said he didn't remember it! I don't agree with any of that just pointing out how lame your argument is.

He said he didn't remember it, he DID NOT DENY IT.

And THIS is how lame your arguments are. You don't know facts, what words mean, or really anything.

 

[Teppodama]

Well folks Al Franken has resigned. It seems even this creep knows to resign and that he did something wrong and yet liberals in this thread CONTINUE to defend his actions and behavior:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/07/us/politics/al-franken-senate-sexual-harassment.html

You think he actually resigned because he believed he did something wrong? lol

How about he resigned because his fellow Democratic politicians were eventually willing to throw him to their voting wolves to protect their own butts?

How about the realization that whether or not you're actually guilty of something worth resigning over your hard earned political clout and good works have just been flushed down the public opinion toilet of social justice and you've become a lame duck?

 

[Squarechoke]

I don't feel sorry for Franken but it is kind of funny that he resigns due to something like this given what the guy that's president has admitted to doing (we don't even need to go into what he's been accused of).

 

[Jack V Savage]

Franken wasn't in power when he committed these "crimes". He was a comedian.

And then he was in power. The point is to show that we demand more from people we trust with power.

The only thing we accomplish, is that we further detach the public perception from private reality. Politicians will simply become more secretive, more two-faced, more dishonest, to avoid being made an "example" of by the lusty mob that cannot live up to the standards that it expects from those working a public office.

That has been how it's been, but now people are making it harder to keep that stuff out. So the more likely effect is that people with higher aspirations will realize that they have to be careful to not leave a slime trail on their way up.

I'd say that we probably disagree about what percentage of the population is inclined to do this kind of thing.

 

[palerider500]

Good for Franken. At least he is owning what he did, unlike Roy Moore

That's because there is NO EVIDENCE that Moore ever did those things. Only hear-say and make-believe.

 

[Mondo Freaks]

That's because there is NO EVIDENCE that Moore ever did those things. Only hear-say and make-believe.

Believe what you want. Moore has no integrity whatsoever

 

[KnightTemplar]

Good. Gives Dems the moral high ground.

In addition to the fact that their policies aren't sadistic attack on the poor...

Politics.

Moral high ground.

Pick one

 

[Jack V Savage]

It seems common sense is still not your strong suit. It's okay, I've learned everyone can be helped even folks with your intellect level..

It's funny how this guy is defending groping and a child molester as long as they are on his side, while inaccurately accusing others of doing the same, and also appears to write at a 4th-grade level while attacking the intelligence of people like kpt.

You think he actually resigned because he believed he did something wrong? lol

How about he resigned because his fellow Democratic politicians were eventually willing to throw him to their voting wolves to protect their own butts?

How on Earth does it protect their butts to push Franken out? It's the opposite.

 

[palerider500]

What a weird take on my post. You're so hyperpartisan that it's like a learning disability.

What else could THIS statement possibly mean:

Franken's stuff doesn't bother me personally that much

You're saying what Franken did doesn't bother you, which means you're cool with him sexually assaulting people and staying in the senate.

Again you're liberal so I don't expect you to understand any of this but I still speak to you as if you're my child. All kids can learn even YOU.

 

[Jack V Savage]

What else could THIS statement possibly mean:

You're saying what Franken did doesn't bother you, which means you're cool with him sexually assaulting people and staying in the senate.

Again you're liberal so I don't expect you to understand any of this but I still speak to you as if you're my child. All kids can learn even YOU.

You should learn to read in context.

Also note that the main people defending Franken here are right-wingers who are putting their desire to defend gropers over their partisan alignments. I guess that would be admirable if the cause weren't so bad.

 

[palerider500]

You think he actually resigned because he believed he did something wrong? lol

How about he resigned because his fellow Democratic politicians were eventually willing to throw him to their voting wolves to protect their own butts?

How about the realization that whether or not you're actually guilty of something worth resigning over your hard earned political clout and good works have just been flushed down the public opinion toilet of social justice and you've become a lame duck?

There was PROOF he did something wrong. He did not have to believe it, the FACTS speak for themselves.

 

[palerider500]

Believe what you want. Moore has no integrity whatsoever

Again do you have any proof for these wild accusations or this just MORE hear-say and make-believe?

 

[kpt018]

It seems common sense is still not your strong suit. It's okay, I've learned everyone can be helped even folks with your intellect level.

Most guys just "kiss girls". They do not wait for an answer and ask "Can I kiss you?"

Men MUST take the initiative when it comes to kissing girls. You're just learning this NOW?

He said you CAN grab them by the pussy NOT that he ever did. There is a difference.

And Franken wasn't accused he was SEEN grabbing a woman's breasts. Again, there is a difference.



An accusation is not evidence, it is just that, an ACCUSATION.

Again learn the difference and meaning of words.

And many owners of strip clubs and porn sets walk in on women who are nude in between scenes and acts. That is also not sexual assault.

Again LEARN SOMETHING.



He said he didn't remember it, he DID NOT DENY IT.

And THIS is how lame your arguments are. You don't know facts, what words mean, or really anything.

Great, we have a new partisan dick in the WR who enjoys slinging personal attacks while ignoring the points others made.

As if we didn't have enough of those.

 

[palerider500]

It's funny how this guy is defending groping and a child molester as long as they are on his side, while inaccurately accusing others of doing the same, and also appears to write at a 4th-grade level while attacking the intelligence of people like kpt.

AGAIN, do you have any proof that Moore is a child molester and groper? Of course NOT!

I certainly have concrete PROOF that Al Franken is a groper who sexually assaults women.

Again, learn something, read something, gain some knowledge.

 

[Mondo Freaks]

Again do you have any proof for these wild accusations or this just MORE hear-say and make-believe?

Multiple accusations. He and even his pastor friend said he went after young girls

 

[palerider500]

You should learn to read in context.

Also note that the main people defending Franken here are right-wingers who are putting their desire to defend gropers over their partisan alignments. I guess that would be admirable if the cause weren't so bad.

That is the context. What Franken did is not so BAD to you.

I guess in your mind sexually assaulting women and grabbing their breasts is normal behavior in your part of town.

 

[Jack V Savage]

AGAIN, do you have any proof that Moore is a child molester and groper? Of course NOT!

I certainly have concrete PROOF that Al Franken is a groper who sexually assaults women.

Again, learn something, read something, gain some knowledge.

You're aware of the evidence against Moore. You just think that child molesters are OK as long as they're in your party. That's how little you guys care about basic decency.

 

[BoxingFan653]

While you guys are all arguing left v right I'm not happy that we as men are quickly giving away our rights by empowering accusations this much

Yes Franken crossed the line but this mob
Mentality is a bit weird including the criticisms of Roy Moore. I think some of us are going too far putting these guys in the same category as rapists or perverts.

The culture definition of sexual harassment has changed multiple times in my life and constantly going back 10+ years ago to destroy those guys following the standards back then is a bit ridiculous

 

[palerider500]

Great, we have a new partisan dick in the WR who enjoys slinging personal attacks while ignoring the points others made.

As if we didn't have enough of those.

You have no point which is why I am able to systematically tear apart your posts line by line without even breaking a sweat.

You are an uninformed democrat liberal hack, that is all you are.

 

[Mondo Freaks]

You're aware of the evidence against Moore. You just think that child molesters are OK as long as they're in your party. That's how little you guys care about basic decency.

The mental gymnastics they go through to protect Moore is astounding. They are truly delusional