Russia Collusion Megathread v11: This Is It

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Darkballs said:
It should be obvious that the move from denying that Trump obstructed justice, to now just attacking those performing the investigation, is because his supporters and legal team can't honestly deny the former any more. They know the charges are coming down within the next year, so they're trying to torpedo the investigation by ridiculous accusations of bias by lifetime professionals who have done nothing more than been affiliated with a different political organization that Trump and the GOP at some point in their lives.

No one's buying it except the right wing propagandists and their ilk.
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So not true, doh.

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splendica said:
Except he didn't. The sad irony is that Obama, Hillary and Mueller were/are more in bed with the Russians than Trump has ever been.
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What on god's green earth are you saying?

It wasn't the republicans and Trump colluding with Russia, it was the Democrats....and they'll pay hard.

You are, if anything, sorely predictable.

You can't even see how childish your tactic is. I know you are but what am I?
 
DickSarp said:
'fake dossier' = right wing lie and talking point.

"meant to shore up" = straw man fantasy

'It's now backfiring" = right wing fantasy for the entire Mueller investigation. See? It wasn't the republicans and Trump colluding with Russia, it was the Democrats....and they'll pay hard.

There is nothing in your post that indicates you've given this matter one second of quality thought. I see merely wishful thinking for the malefaction of your political enemies. That's really low brow.
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Wow man. You're pretty out there.
 
Libs think it's sherdog posters exposing Mueller and the Fbi instead of congressmen, journalists, experts, and government officials.

Anything to keep the self delusion in tact.
 
DickSarp said:
What on god's green earth are you saying?

It wasn't the republicans and Trump colluding with Russia, it was the Democrats....and they'll pay hard.

You are, if anything, sorely predictable.

You can't even see how childish your tactic is. I know you are but what am I?
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Settle, settle . . .

I agree that it was the Democrats that colluded with Russia. I may have misunderstood your post. Sorry if I did!
 
WTF2008 said:
This is comical when you actually look into who was running these investigations.
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Well then Trump should fire Mueller, and keep firing guys until he finds one that says everyone on his campaign was not lying about meeting with Russians.
 
44nutman said:
Well then Trump should fire Mueller, and keep firing guys until he finds one that says everyone on his campaign was not lying about meeting with Russians.
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Yup, because that's what we're seeing right? Trump and Putin rigged the election.

Come on son.
 
waiguoren said:
As one commentator wrote:

If anyone was under the impression that Trump would receive fair and impartial treatment from our nation’s decorated and entrusted law enforcers, I have one word for you:

LOL.

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http://edition.cnn.com/2017/12/04/politics/peter-strzok-james-comey/index.html
Washington (CNN)

A former top counterintelligence expert at the FBI, now at the center of a political uproar for exchanging private messages that appeared to mock President Donald Trump, changed a key phrase in former FBI Director James Comey's description of how former secretary of state Hillary Clinton handled classified information, according to US officials familiar with the matter.

Electronic records show Peter Strzok, who led the investigation of Hillary Clinton's private email server as the No. 2 official in the counterintelligence division, changed Comey's earlier draft language describing Clinton's actions as "grossly negligent" to "extremely careless," the sources said.
The drafting process was a team effort, CNN is told, with a handful of people reviewing the language as edits were made, according to another US official familiar with the matter.

FBI agent removed from Mueller investigation over anti-Trump messages
The shift from "grossly negligent" to "extremely careless," which may appear pedestrian at first glance, reflected a decision by the FBI that could have had potentially significant legal implications, as the federal law governing the mishandling of classified material establishes criminal penalties for "gross negligence."
Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, raised questions over why the change was made after receiving documents from the FBI last month, but the identity of who was behind the edit has not been reported until now.


CNN has also learned that Strzok was the FBI official who signed the document officially opening an investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election, according to sources familiar with the matter. As the No. 2 official in counterintelligence, Strzok was considered to be one of the bureau's top experts on Russia.
But the news of Strzok's direct role in the statement that ultimately cleared the former Democratic presidential candidate of criminal wrongdoing, now combined with the fact that he was dismissed from special counsel Robert Mueller's team after exchanging private messages with an FBI lawyer that could be seen as favoring Clinton politically, may give ammunition to those seeking ways to discredit Mueller's Russia investigation.
The FBI and the Justice Department declined to comment.

CNN reported in November that Comey and his FBI colleagues were "playing with the language" throughout the process of drafting Comey's statement on Clinton, believing that they needed to condemn the former secretary of state's handling of classified information, while also making clear they would not recommend criminal charges, according to a source familiar with the FBI decision.
Comey ultimately called Clinton's conduct "extremely careless," but said "no reasonable prosecutor" would pursue charges based on the evidence.
"Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information," Comey said back in July 2016.
Grassley said that documents the FBI provided to the Senate Judiciary Committee in November included an earlier draft of Comey's exoneration statement from May 2016, which stated: "There is evidence to support a conclusion that Secretary Clinton, and others, used the private email server in a manner that was grossly negligent with respect to the handling of classified material."
Grassley then asked for the electronic "metadata," which would include "who created the original drafts, who made the edits to the draft statement, and when those edits were made."
Sources familiar with the requests tell CNN that Grassley has received the metadata, but he wants the FBI to provide further explanation about the changes.
Grassley's office did not return a request for comment.
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Given the relationships, irrespective of what can be proven, it's pretty clear administration leadership were working with a State enemy to undermine our election in exchange for killing the Magnitsky Act.
 
44nutman said:
The right wing media will not be happy until one of Deferrment Donnys kids is running the investigation. I think Ivanka, Barron and the other daughter are the only kids or son in laws that has not lied to the FBI, yet.
Maybe appoint one of them.
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Well Baron is great with the cyber
 
Mueller's 'Right Hand Man' Represented Hillary Clinton IT Staffer Who Installed Her Illegal Server

In a trend which should surprise exactly nobody, another member of the Mueller team has been found to have deep ties to Trump's opponents.

Fox News host Tucker Carlson has obtained documents which reveal Aaron Zebley, considered to be Special Counsel Robert Mueller's "right hand man," defended Hillary Clinton IT staffer Justin Cooper - a Bill Clinton aide that installed the "private, illegal" server in the Clintons' Chappaqua home described by Politico as "jerry-rigged."

Zebley, a former WilmerHale partner who defended Cooper in 2015 in front of the Senate Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee, was specifically called out by in a letter to Cooper for stonewalling the investigation, and his "complete refusal to engage the committee in a discussion about how to further assuage your concerns."

Carlson points out that Zebley's history as an attorney linked to Hillary Clinton is a compromised position.



Take that in for a minute. A lawyer who played a defense role in the federal investigation into Hillary Clinton is now playing an offensive role in the federal investigation into President Trump. -Tucker Carlson

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The news about Mueller's 'right hand man' is directly linked to FBI agent Peter Strzok - the man fired from Mueller's probe who headed up both the Clinton email investigation and the original Trump-Russia investigation and was caught sending anti-Trump / pro-Hillary text messages to his mistress. This makes two original Mueller investigators directly linked to the Clinton email investigation.

And according to journalist Sara Carter, more anti-trump messages have reportedly been sent by members of Mueller's team, stating on Sean Hannity's program this week "A lot more is going to come out."

As we have been reporting since the Mueller investigation began, the special counsel is a hot partisan mess - stacked with investigators who have donated to Obama, Clinton and other Democrat causes. As Jessica McBride reported inHeavy:

  • Andrew Weissmann: Weissmann is a Barack Obama and Democratic campaign donor, according to federal records. “Weissmann, who led the Enron investigation, previously gave $2,300 to Obama’s first presidential campaign in 2008 and $2,000 to the Democratic National Committee in 2006
  • Jeannie Rhee: donated $5,400 to Hillary Clinton in 2015 and 2016, according to FEC records. The records show she gave $2,500 each to Obama for America and Obama Victory Fund 2012 in 2011
  • Andrew Goldstein: According to Fox News, “Goldstein contributed a combined $3,300 to Obama’s campaigns in 2008 and 2012”
  • Greg Andres: FEC records show that Andres has donated at least $2,700 to Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY)
  • James Quarles: Donated thousands of dollars to the campaigns of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. He has also donated money recently to other Democrats, including Friends of Chuck Schumer and two other Democrats. He has a lengthy donation history dating back years. He did donate to two Republicans over the years, however.
  • Elizabeth Prelogar: A former law clerk to Justics Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Elena Kagen, gave $250 to Hillary Clinton in 2016, according to FEC records. She also gave $500 total to Obama for America and the Obama Victory Fund 2012.
  • Brandon Van Grack: gave small amounts to ActBlue, an effort to raise money for Democrats, and to a Democratic candidate for Congress in 2012. In 2008, he gave about $286 to Barack Obama.
  • Rush Atkinson: donated $200 to Clinton’s campaign in 2016.
  • Kyle Freeny: In 2012, Freeny gave $300 to Obama. In 2008, Freeny also gave $250 to Obama, FEC records show.
One wonders if the special counsel is now so tainted that it whatever they conclude will forever be mired in doubt.
 
second sight said:
One wonders if the special counsel is now so tainted that it whatever they conclude will forever be mired in doubt.
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Unfortunately this is now the case. The American people will not accept the findings of this kangaroo circus. It's over. Shut it down.
 
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