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Ummm...do people even realize that Rory and Askren are fighting in different orgs? There is no comparison to LW or MW where there is just contention about which UFC fighter is the best.
TJ isn’t a flyweight.you can say the same about flyweight, there is a reason the lkittle guy is ducking dillishaw
Conor probably goes 6-4 or 5-5 against the LW top 10. Not that we will ever get to see those fights.
That’s probably how most champions would fare one weight class up.That is pretty good for someone who went up a weight class
To be fair, most people think Wonderboy beat Woodley too, at least according to the ruleset (even if it was a boring fight other than the times Wonderboy was getting his shit pushed in).You guys do know that Rory got his ass kicked by Lawler and Wonderboy, right?
It's overall wins, not just X guy beat Y once years ago.
Woodley has better wins and has improved the most since their fight.
To be fair, most people think Wonderboy beat Woodley too, at least according to the ruleset (even if it was a boring fight other than the times Wonderboy was getting his shit pushed in).
As for Rory, well any time you're fighting a guy with a broken nose, you're not fighting the same guy. Can't take any points away from Lawler cuz he's the one who broke it, but imagine if a Rory that couldn't breathe at all stayed that competitive, was already up arguably 3 rounds by round 5, and rocked him with that headkick that had Robbie looking to survive just the round before, what a full Rory could do to him. Now, "what if's" don't matter when they don't happen, I'm just saying you could do 100 fights and not get your nose broken and I think it's far more likely that Robbie just happened to hit it, rather than he focused on hitting it early to drain Rory for later rounds
I think Conor is the weakest champ. Guys like Joe Duffy, Paul Felder, James Vick and even some tough Bellator 155ers have a good chance of beating him.Not his fault, but Woodley has some questions around his status as the best 170 pounder in the world that I don't think any of the other UFC champions have. Both Ben Askren, undefeated and a higher level wrestler, and Rory McDonald, a former top talent who beat Woodley, could make their claims as being better than anyone else with some plausibility. And of course there is the shadow of GSP looming over the division as well.
This post is biased as hell, you say it's just "good match making" yet you bring up how Rory beats Tyron who's a good stylistic matchup for Rory.How exactly has he improved?
He still backs himself up against the cage and explodes into a TD or counter right the same he tried with Rory.
Good TDD and non committal strikes and solid boxing is what it takes to beat him. Which is why he struggled so much with WB. He let him back himself up then peppered him with non committal strikes that he couldn't just easily counter.
Rory would beat him again with the same gameplan bc he is the same fighter he was back then. Very little improvement just good match making is all that makes him look improved.
Stop it.Rory (again), Lima, Koreshkov > Woodley
Nothing but favorable match making ahe arguably lost both.
Delusional, only morons think Thompson won those fights Woodley caused all the significant damage, there's no question Woodley won the FIGHT both time this isn't karate point fighting, Woodley cracked Thompsons shit twice and had him hurt, Thompson was never able to put Woodley in any sort of danger in the 10 rounds of fighting they hadTo be fair, most people think Wonderboy beat Woodley too, at least according to the ruleset (even if it was a boring fight other than the times Wonderboy was getting his shit pushed in
So your telling me mma math doesn't work?Yeah and Rory beat the fuck out of Woodley so I don’t know where you think this is going.
Yeah and Rory beat the fuck out of Woodley so I don’t know where you think this is going.
Whaaaat? Oh my god thanks for breaking that news!You guys do know that Rory got his ass kicked by Lawler and Wonderboy, right?
Rory got ruined by Condit early, he became a safe fighter who held back and coasted, especially pulling back the third round, like the massive criticism he got for not finishing Penn or Ellenberger. He needed the first loss to Robbie before he turned his fighting style back up.1.Lawler beat Rory twice
2. Anyone that had Rory ahead in that 2nd fight was drunk
..Yes it is. Fights are scored with points.this isn't ... point fighting
Strange, I think only morons score fights by damage. Wonderboy won 6 of the 10 rounds they fought. In the first fight, going 3-2 didn't matter cuz Woodley got a 10-8, tying it up. In the second fight, Wonderboy won 3 rounds to 2 again, and as for Woodley getting any 10-8's in that fight? The NSAC director commented “The one judge that had it 10-8 — we went over it in the debriefing — and that 10-8 was unacceptable”Delusional, only morons think Thompson won those fights Woodley caused all the significant damage
What kind of weird logic is this??Not his fault, but Woodley has some questions around his status as the best 170 pounder in the world that I don't think any of the other UFC champions have. Both Ben Askren, undefeated and a higher level wrestler, and Rory McDonald, a former top talent who beat Woodley, could make their claims as being better than anyone else with some plausibility. And of course there is the shadow of GSP looming over the division as well.