Askren is pretty solid and takes Shields any day. The real questions are:
Askren vs Rory
Askren vs Lawler
Askren vs Woodley.
Askren vs GSP.
Askren vs Diaz.
I picture Askren being competitive in every one of these five fights, but can he actually win them?
I am not so sure.
Shields, although I think "prime" Shields was at MW and not WW. He had a run of Lawler, Miller, and Henderson at MW. Very impressive.
Jake Shields has wins over Carlos Condit, Paul Daley, Robbie Lawler, Jason Miller, Dan Henderson, Martin Kampmann, Akiyama, Tyron Woodley, and Demian Maia.
Does that answer your question?
I just don't think many people will agree with you.
You have an elite wrestler with very good grappling going against a high level but not elite grappler with average wrestling. In BJJ, I'll take Shields every time. But not in MMA.
I don’t know, but if I ever have insomnia, that’s the fight I wanna be watching.Both in their prime at 170, who wins?
Inb4 not the fans because grapple-fest.
Askren. Shields' best work comes from top. He wouldn't get Askren off of him.
Actually while Shield striking is ugly to look at, he often hold his own standing up.Shields a striker? LOL!! that fight "IF" would stay on the feet would look like Ronda sparring boxing with another Ronda...shit
At least in training he'd subbed Askren wherever he wanted while Askren couldn't do the same.
At least in training he'd subbed Askren wherever he wanted while Askren couldn't do the same.
Askren. Shields' best work comes from top. He wouldn't get Askren off of him.
Easy for Shields, Askren isn't on that level.
The sparring wars between Jake and Ben when he use to come out to Cesars, along with Chael.. were epic. And Jake in his prime, Ben and Chael, were learning from, when coming to train. Askren vs Woodley can be seen anytime both are in the gym together at Dukes. Askren vs Nick happened already at Cesars too. Askren vs Lawler has happened when they trained together. UFC protected GSP from Ben when they didn't sign him bitd. Imo, he abuses Rory..Askren is pretty solid and takes Shields any day. The real questions are:
Askren vs Rory
Askren vs Lawler
Askren vs Woodley.
Askren vs GSP.
Askren vs Diaz.
I picture Askren being competitive in every one of these five fights, but can he actually win them?
I am not so sure.
But Jake use to toy with Fitch and Koshcheck during AKA sparring nights.. during their prime.. which is what the TS asked, not current or recent.agreed. askren reminds me of fitch. and fitch beat shields a little over a year ago by staying active in shields' guard.
Askren takes Shields any day, yet Woodley is a test for him?
Yeah, you really know what you're talking about.