NFL Lineman: "I could be a UFC champ and beat Stipe"

[FedorRoks]

You guys have no idea what type of special human it takes to make it in the NFL. There’s a reason nobodies in the NFL make monopoly money and nobodies in MMA make 5k a fight. He’s probably right. Someone like Brock couldn’t even make a practice squad, and he won and defended the title.

Brock could not make an NFL roster because he lacked skill, not athleticism. That is, he lacked technique. And he didn't want to wait around to build his skill when he could get paid to do other things.

http://www.espn.com/espn/wire/_/section/nfl/id/1821029

"He is a project with a capital P," said Scott Studwell, the Vikings' director of college scouting. "He's got physical tools, but he has a long way to go."

Most sports (fighting, NFL, etc) take skill. For NFL linemen, you need technique. Brock didn't have it, and didn't want to wait around to develop it.

Much like Greg Hardy -- or even someone like Ngannou who has been fighting as a pro for 4+ years -- doesn't seem to possess great fighting skill even though he/they are good-to-excellent athletes.

But the NFL understood Brock was a great athlete. A great athlete who lacked NFL skill.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/news/story?id=1830855

"He's a project. Big time," Vikings player personnel director Scott Studwell said. "As much as you'd like to take a shot on a guy like him because of his athletic history, do you do it at the expense of cutting another player? Probably not. At the expense of taking reps away from a promising young player? Probably not. With Brock, it's like you're starting from scratch."

Too far to go to build up his skill level to be top-level professionally.

He always had the athletic ability though. He's a freak. Now, how he got to be a freak is a different matter. But he's a freak.

 

[Striderx5]

everyone is an NCAA champ

@Toco vs Brock! Book it Dana!

 

[TheBulletwithWings]

brock lesnar beat randy couture after only having 3 fights.

and hes not even A level

Didn’t he make a NFL football team with no prior experience?

 

[nintey]

Football is about short all out bursts of energy, most plays are a few seconds. These players would gas so fast and all that toughness would fade away.

 

[Mr. Fixit]

Didn’t he make a NFL football team with no prior experience?

No

They wanted to send him to NFL Europe, when that was a thing, but Brock didn't want to put in the work over there to make it to the NFL. So he took the easier route, trained a bit of stand up and became UFC champ.

 

[Elmo]

Would make a funny season of TUF. Taking guys from other sports and have them fight in a tournament for a TS.

Jeez, just have all them big 350 pound monsters come in first day and bring in Stipe in that Tutu and let them go at it.
Great TV.

 

[Locooo]

http://www.tmz.com/2018/02/12/damon-harrison-stipe-miocic-ufc-nfl-fight/

"A level" stars are now calling out "C-level" athletes of MMA. Floyd calling out Conor and now this guy calling out Stipe.

come get it motherfucker

 

[UFCfan91]

He isn't a star but people that know football understand he is a beast. A lot NFL guys who played in the trenches lose significant weight when they stop playing, based on not having to be 340lbs to play interior line. Not saying that can't go the other way also though.

Or the fact they are no longer roided to the gills so they can get to 340lb

 

[Flokk]

Lesnar is a fucking NCAA Champion
The fuck are you talking about?

And a WWE champion.

And a breakdancing champion.

Don't sleep on Lesnar's XXL lunchbox hands. Roe Jogan has splooged himself over those mitts alone.

Anyway, dude is wrong here. You can't just come in off the street and handle a 250 lb guy who has competent boxing and a well-established wrestling base. Maybe via sucker punch in a bar fight with an entourage of linemen and security goons for backup. But in a MMA fight? Virtually zero chance.

There's no doubt that some of these guys would be utter monsters (against scrubs at least) if they'd started in wrassling and had that base to build around. But it takes much more than size and athleticism to succeed at combat sports.

It's not an issue of A level versus D level (altho that alone is worth a lot against shit tier competition) It's an issue of pedigree/skill.

 

[Vintersorg]

yeah like 20 years ago. like that matters. randy had been fighting all throughout Lesnar's career. he hadn't wrestled in AGES when he started training MMA.

randy was an NCAA d1 wrestler too btw.

AND an accomplished MMAist,

lesnar is just a superior athlete.. thats why he won

hes only like B level though. imagine what an A level would do

Randy was also almost 50 years old, nowhere near the level of Stipe and Randy is also a light heavyweight if we're talking in terms of reality. Just look at Stipe, he's lean and not overly muscular, yet he's around 250 pounds and has a huge head. He's a legit heavyweight with a real heavyweight frame, not some blown-up lhw. Not to mention that chances for an NFL "athlete"(gasses out after one 20 yard dash) to actually pass the USADA testing are even lower than average sherdogger's chancs to elevate themselves from subhuman to human.

 

[ColombianFist]

"Player" is subjective. He dressed for 9 games in his career and had about 7 minutes of on field time. But at least he made the team.

If he made it to the team, that works as well.

 

[bad_k]

All ex NFL players has done horrible in the UFC

Also majority of them would never survive the current USADA era without getting flagged and suspended

 

[Flokk]

Youre like the 100th person to use that rebuttal on me. Ive responded to all of them. Go look for it

Did I quote you and not know it? Why you coming at me bruh.

 

[dudefacemcghee]

yeah like 20 years ago. like that matters. randy had been fighting all throughout Lesnar's career. he hadn't wrestled in AGES when he started training MMA.

randy was an NCAA d1 wrestler too btw.

AND an accomplished MMAist,

lesnar is just a superior athlete.. thats why he won

hes only like B level though. imagine what an A level would do

Ya but randy was probably on trt and Brock had never tested +

 

[welcometohavoc]

http://www.tmz.com/2018/02/12/damon-harrison-stipe-miocic-ufc-nfl-fight/

"A level" stars are now calling out "C-level" athletes of MMA. Floyd calling out Conor and now this guy calling out Stipe.

341 lbs....

He'd have to lay off a substantial amount of french fries to make 265

 

[beastman]

All ex NFL players has done horrible in the UFC

Also majority of them would never survive the current USADA era without getting flagged and suspended

Who? Matt Mitrione had a very solid career. But pro rugby players are having a good run too.

 

[welcometohavoc]

Damon Harrison's check each single game is more than Stipe makes in a year. Lol at taking a break from that to beat up barroom brawlers.

Confused why you're even in this forum if you have such a disdainful opinion of MMA and MMA fighters.

 

[welcometohavoc]

Who? Matt Mitrione had a very solid career. But pro rugby players are having a good run too.

They've done about as decent as decent athletes with a few years training should do. But none of made the elite impact people expect "A level" athletes to make.

The fact is, A level is a myth. I'll take a guy like Cael Sanderson or Ernesto Hoost over LeBron James or James Harrison any day

 

[That209]

I barely grazes over this paragraph you wrote but it seems extremely gay and homoerotic.


Anyway. Yes hes not wrong

Says the guy that only makes threads about muscular men.. idiot. Weak troll account. Go fuck yourself.

 

[Taric]

The fact is, A level is a myth. I'll take a guy like Cael Sanderson or Ernesto Hoost over LeBron James or James Harrison any day

Lebron is a big diva and Harrison is just a gym warrior. If someone like Ray Lewis had come to MMA with the same drive he put into football he would've dominated the sport.