PWD 583: Roman Brings the Reigns of Apathy Down in Africa
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"The Guy" has always been the top babyface pushed by the company. Brock is not a babyface but Roman has been since the beginning of his singles push 4 years ago. SummerSlam 2014 is the day that Super Cena died when Brock beat his ass in a surprising flawless victory. Summerslam 2014 is also the night when Roman won his first major match as a singles babyface when he beat Randy Orton.
How many people were kicking out of R.K.O's at the time besides Cena?
Brock is the Last Boss, he's rarely around, he's not The Guy who the company is telling you to get behind. That's Roman and you know it.
Austin
Rock
Cena
*Roman*
No Taker, no Triple H, no Orton and no Brock. Those weren't the guys that the company wanted you to get behind at the time and support. They wanted you to support their opponents which were the guys on that list, all babyfaces in their respective time as The Guy.
This isn't a list of guys in order of who I think should be top guy instead.. This is a random list of babyfaces or potential babyfaces who fans are or were behind at some point but the WWE said, "Naw we prefer you to get behind our chosen one instead." But since you went and did a detailed breakdown of each guy on the list, I might as well do the same in response.
You're telling me that the guy who fans were dying to cheer when he returned from injury way back was not wronged when the company decided to have him return as a heel and shit on the fans instead?
You're telling me that from his Mania 2017 feud with HHH to about the time the Gauntlet Match happened right before Mania 2018, he wasn't wronged?
He was basically floundering around for exactly a year as a singles babyface with no feuds, storylines, character, nothing UNTIL they decides to bring the Shield back together. And what was the reason for bringing the Shield back? It was to help Roman once again to get over in hopes that he would be ready for Mania. This did nothing at all for Rollins or Dean, it was all meant for Roman. You can bring up the tag title's he had with Dean and Jordan during that time but they faced The Bar that whole time for months EVERY single week with barely any reason to care. Why? Because the focus was on Roman, not Dean and Seth.
But hi, because Rollins has Roman's number, none of that matters I guess... Sure buddy.
Now this is where I'm going to have to question if you have even been paying attention. Long before Rusev Day existed, he was still getting great reactions from the fans. They've been wanting to cheer him for a few years now and Vince has decided that he will stay a heel and put people over when needed.
Specifically Roman...
I mean how the fuck do you let Roman get out of that? But according to you, Super Roman doesn't exist right? Nobody else is getting out of that.
Did you forget about his drug test failure? His loss to Balor, (as well as his clean title loss to Dean) was a punishment for his drug test failure. Since than, Roman has beat him in at least 2 singles matches.
What has Balor done since returning from injury loooong ago? Really what has he done? How many singles feuds has he been in? 1? Floundering just like Rollins and Dean... But Roman is always focused on. You can't tell the difference?
More floundering, especially before he turned heel. Did absoluetly nothing as a face since arriving... "bruh."
No what's incredible is you notunderstanding what a clean fucking win is. A clean wins means you are the better man that night.
Let's take a look at Strowman's wins over Roman...
He jumped into an Ambulance, he got choked out by Joe, he came into the match very injured after a motor vehicle accident...
Roman has beat Strowman CLEAN with a PIN at least 3 times now.
Are you so fucking in denial that you can't see the difference in their wins? You clearly are in denial here. "Incredible" isn't it? Oh it is...
Kevin Owens has never beaten Roman clean, prove it otherwise... It's obvious you don't know what a clean win is. Distractions, excuses of injuries does not make it clean.
Dean pinned Roman for the title as punishment for the failed drug test. Dean went on to face babyface loser Ziggler in the most underwhelming title feud of the year. He then had a great feud with Heel AJ which he lost the title to and then has been floundering since.
Cesaro and Ziggler are two other guys who are just there. Titles or not, they have nothing going on for them, it's always the same old shit. No reason to care but the fans have wanted to.
Notice how I keep saying floundering? That's exactly what most of these guys have been doing. Roman though always has something going on, this is the difference maker you need to understand. The company wants you to get behind him but don't give a shit about the other guys.
Nope never said he should be an enhancement talent. He's failed not just as the top babyface but a babyface in general. Cena no matter how hated he was still succeeded in getting "let's go Cena" chants everywhere he went. No matter how loud the "Cena sucks" chants were, we always heard his fans. Roman has not managed to do this, only on a blue moon. It's been 4 fucking years of trying.. And you think he needs even more big wins to achieve that? Nobody else needs all that but sonehow Roman does and it still don't be enough... Thisis why he's failed as a babyface.
Now when it comes to who should be The Guy? Nobody.. That shit gets old quick these days. People want to be suprised, not accustomed to having that one Superman to cheer for each week and constantly go after the title. That old school mentality is dead. This is why you focus on multiple guys near the top and keep them as strong as possible. But instead we get one man who can survive 5 F5's while nobody else can take even one...
We got a superman and a bunch of geeks and you don't see the fucking issue and the difference here? Please....
Nobody else is getting this mommy treatment from the company
The point is nobody else needs that baby coddling that Roman has been getting from day 1. This is why he's a dud. He'll be a great heel, maybe one of the best of all time but as a babyface, as the top guy, he's failed.
Time to move on, stop coddling the baby and get your head out of his ass.
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"The Guy" has always been the top babyface pushed by the company. Brock is not a babyface but Roman has been since the beginning of his singles push 4 years ago. SummerSlam 2014 is the day that Super Cena died when Brock beat his ass in a surprising flawless victory. Summerslam 2014 is also the night when Roman won his first major match as a singles babyface when he beat Randy Orton.
How many people were kicking out of R.K.O's at the time besides Cena?
Brock is the Last Boss, he's rarely around, he's not The Guy who the company is telling you to get behind. That's Roman and you know it.
Austin
Rock
Cena
*Roman*
No Taker, no Triple H, no Orton and no Brock. Those weren't the guys that the company wanted you to get behind at the time and support. They wanted you to support their opponents which were the guys on that list, all babyfaces in their respective time as The Guy.
This isn't a list of guys in order of who I think should be top guy instead.. This is a random list of babyfaces or potential babyfaces who fans are or were behind at some point but the WWE said, "Naw we prefer you to get behind our chosen one instead." But since you went and did a detailed breakdown of each guy on the list, I might as well do the same in response.
You're telling me that the guy who fans were dying to cheer when he returned from injury way back was not wronged when the company decided to have him return as a heel and shit on the fans instead?
You're telling me that from his Mania 2017 feud with HHH to about the time the Gauntlet Match happened right before Mania 2018, he wasn't wronged?
He was basically floundering around for exactly a year as a singles babyface with no feuds, storylines, character, nothing UNTIL they decides to bring the Shield back together. And what was the reason for bringing the Shield back? It was to help Roman once again to get over in hopes that he would be ready for Mania. This did nothing at all for Rollins or Dean, it was all meant for Roman. You can bring up the tag title's he had with Dean and Jordan during that time but they faced The Bar that whole time for months EVERY single week with barely any reason to care. Why? Because the focus was on Roman, not Dean and Seth.
But hi, because Rollins has Roman's number, none of that matters I guess... Sure buddy.
Now this is where I'm going to have to question if you have even been paying attention. Long before Rusev Day existed, he was still getting great reactions from the fans. They've been wanting to cheer him for a few years now and Vince has decided that he will stay a heel and put people over when needed.
Specifically Roman...
I mean how the fuck do you let Roman get out of that? But according to you, Super Roman doesn't exist right? Nobody else is getting out of that.
Did you forget about his drug test failure? His loss to Balor, (as well as his clean title loss to Dean) was a punishment for his drug test failure. Since than, Roman has beat him in at least 2 singles matches.
What has Balor done since returning from injury loooong ago? Really what has he done? How many singles feuds has he been in? 1? Floundering just like Rollins and Dean... But Roman is always focused on. You can't tell the difference?
More floundering, especially before he turned heel. Did absoluetly nothing as a face since arriving... "bruh."
No what's incredible is you notunderstanding what a clean fucking win is. A clean wins means you are the better man that night.
Let's take a look at Strowman's wins over Roman...
He jumped into an Ambulance, he got choked out by Joe, he came into the match very injured after a motor vehicle accident...
Roman has beat Strowman CLEAN with a PIN at least 3 times now.
Are you so fucking in denial that you can't see the difference in their wins? You clearly are in denial here. "Incredible" isn't it? Oh it is...
Kevin Owens has never beaten Roman clean, prove it otherwise... It's obvious you don't know what a clean win is. Distractions, excuses of injuries does not make it clean.
Dean pinned Roman for the title as punishment for the failed drug test. Dean went on to face babyface loser Ziggler in the most underwhelming title feud of the year. He then had a great feud with Heel AJ which he lost the title to and then has been floundering since.
Cesaro and Ziggler are two other guys who are just there. Titles or not, they have nothing going on for them, it's always the same old shit. No reason to care but the fans have wanted to.
Notice how I keep saying floundering? That's exactly what most of these guys have been doing. Roman though always has something going on, this is the difference maker you need to understand. The company wants you to get behind him but don't give a shit about the other guys.
Nope never said he should be an enhancement talent. He's failed not just as the top babyface but a babyface in general. Cena no matter how hated he was still succeeded in getting "let's go Cena" chants everywhere he went. No matter how loud the "Cena sucks" chants were, we always heard his fans. Roman has not managed to do this, only on a blue moon. It's been 4 fucking years of trying.. And you think he needs even more big wins to achieve that? Nobody else needs all that but sonehow Roman does and it still don't be enough... Thisis why he's failed as a babyface.
Now when it comes to who should be The Guy? Nobody.. That shit gets old quick these days. People want to be suprised, not accustomed to having that one Superman to cheer for each week and constantly go after the title. That old school mentality is dead. This is why you focus on multiple guys near the top and keep them as strong as possible. But instead we get one man who can survive 5 F5's while nobody else can take even one...
We got a superman and a bunch of geeks and you don't see the fucking issue and the difference here? Please....
Nobody else is getting this mommy treatment from the company
The point is nobody else needs that baby coddling that Roman has been getting from day 1. This is why he's a dud. He'll be a great heel, maybe one of the best of all time but as a babyface, as the top guy, he's failed.
Time to move on, stop coddling the baby and get your head out of his ass.
Yes!
They should make the briefcase for either title. One night Brock is getting whooped by everybody.
Miz sneaks in like the rat he is and cashes in. Everybody leaves him alone because they hate Brock not ever being there.
Miz can now tell everybody that he was the one to conquer the Beast for the rest of his career.
At this point, why not? Who else?
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