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@AndyMaBobs
Not trying to "prove you wrong" but I would say that I disagree with being shorter as a advantage in a clinch. For striking, I think being the taller opponent gives you and advantage everywhere, including the clinch.
I get the lower COG concept, but I dont think it applies as much to the MT clinch, as it does to grappling sports where takedowns are legal as @Uchi Mata has mentioned. MT clinch is all about remaining upright/tall, and to defend knees, we get as close as possible the joke is "dick to dick", when you get this close, you cannot be kneed straight or the side, it does open you up for the throw at the hips though.
I do agree with you that wrestling and clinching are more similar than most people think, I can even relate BJJ to "clinching on the ground", also one of my old coaches, who is a MMA coach but knowledgeable on MT, refers to the clinch as "neck wrestling"
One of my friends and old regular training partners, is very tall for his weight. And much taller than me of course. But he is an MMA fighter, because of his crouching MMA style he really takes away from his reach advantage, anyways, I dont have much of a problem dominating him in the clinch, and also getting those MT sweep/throws at the hip on him due to his height, but thats more because he just doesnt know how to clinch rather than me having a advantage for being shorter. If we take guys that are shorter and dominate clinch fighters I think this is the reason why.
@ARIZE "You can make it work, and you can be very good at it, not thanks to been shorter, but despite of it."
I have fought guys that were exactly 3 inches taller than me, it made a difference in strikes as far as reach with punches, and that I could only kick body or legs but not head. Not much of a difference in the clinch, but thats because thats my thing. Shorter guys are very easy to knee, specifically with that straight knee.
however rather then all of us debating on who has a advantage for being short vs tall, lets keep this thing going with more techniques etc. Lets try and show what to do in the clinch if you are shorter.
Not trying to "prove you wrong" but I would say that I disagree with being shorter as a advantage in a clinch. For striking, I think being the taller opponent gives you and advantage everywhere, including the clinch.
I get the lower COG concept, but I dont think it applies as much to the MT clinch, as it does to grappling sports where takedowns are legal as @Uchi Mata has mentioned. MT clinch is all about remaining upright/tall, and to defend knees, we get as close as possible the joke is "dick to dick", when you get this close, you cannot be kneed straight or the side, it does open you up for the throw at the hips though.
I do agree with you that wrestling and clinching are more similar than most people think, I can even relate BJJ to "clinching on the ground", also one of my old coaches, who is a MMA coach but knowledgeable on MT, refers to the clinch as "neck wrestling"
One of my friends and old regular training partners, is very tall for his weight. And much taller than me of course. But he is an MMA fighter, because of his crouching MMA style he really takes away from his reach advantage, anyways, I dont have much of a problem dominating him in the clinch, and also getting those MT sweep/throws at the hip on him due to his height, but thats more because he just doesnt know how to clinch rather than me having a advantage for being shorter. If we take guys that are shorter and dominate clinch fighters I think this is the reason why.
@ARIZE "You can make it work, and you can be very good at it, not thanks to been shorter, but despite of it."
I have fought guys that were exactly 3 inches taller than me, it made a difference in strikes as far as reach with punches, and that I could only kick body or legs but not head. Not much of a difference in the clinch, but thats because thats my thing. Shorter guys are very easy to knee, specifically with that straight knee.
however rather then all of us debating on who has a advantage for being short vs tall, lets keep this thing going with more techniques etc. Lets try and show what to do in the clinch if you are shorter.