‘Unmasking Antifa Act' includes 15-year prison term proposal

[Liquid Smoke]

lol, why would I give a shit?

You've expressed sympathies for them on this board, maybe you got carried away one day and did something you shouldn't have done?

But if you haven't noticed Congress doesn't like to pass anything.

Congress is for cucks.

Also, you want to send people who get into fights on Halloween to jail for 15 years?

Seems like a different set of circumstances but I'd be open to the discussion, lol.

 

[Trotsky]

Don't worry Trotsky, just get used to not wearing a mask when you and your "revolutionaries" get together and you won't have to worry about a cell mate eventually making you their waifu pillow.

Anti-fascists aren't revolutionaries. Quite the opposite. Whereas a revolutionary aims at overthrowing an established order, an anti-fascist seeks to merely resist fascist currents from influencing said order. In that sense, an anti-fascist is like an anti-revolutionary (with the revolution being a fascist one).

Also, I don't know what a waifu pillow is.

 

[Phelly2]

I hope so innocent white American males are clearly in dire need of protection from the dreaded Antifa .

Why does race need to enter the conversation about masked terrorists violently disrupting peaceful political events?

 

[tonni]

Can you get a gayer name then antifa.....

Maybe twitter...

"Bloodworth"

 

[tonni]

Not just antifa being twerps btw.

 

[Liquid Smoke]

Can you get a gayer name then antifa.....

Maybe twitter...

Bloodworth.... tho that may be more pedo than gay from what i hear.

"Bloodworth"

Prediction: this thread hits 100 pages 2-3 of which will be this joke.

 

[Phelly2]

Anti-fascists aren't revolutionaries. Quite the opposite. Whereas a revolutionary aims at overthrowing an established order, an anti-fascist seeks to merely resist fascist currents from influencing said order. In that sense, an anti-fascist is like an anti-revolutionary (with the revolution being a fascist one).

Also, I don't know what a waifu pillow is.

Okay.

But to get back to the main topic, an anti-fascist who uses violence to suppress his political opponents is still a fascist. And a terrorist, by definition.

 

[tonni]

15 years for yelling at cops while disguised. Seems a bit excessive.

 

[Teppodama]

Anti-fascists aren't revolutionaries. Quite the opposite. Whereas a revolutionary aims at overthrowing an established order, an anti-fascist seeks to merely resist fascist currents from influencing said order. In that sense, an anti-fascist is like an anti-revolutionary (with the revolution being a fascist one).

Also, I don't know what a waifu pillow is.

There is no fascist movement in the US regardless of what you think about Trump. While I understand the glorification of the idea of resisting the establishment and being part of "change", their activities are nothing more than chaotic and often destructive hooliganism and just as harmful as anything the actual racists may create with their own activities. I have absolutely no issue with believing that if or when the 1st shot is actually fired in this ongoing social unrest that it will be instigated by their actions.

 

[tonni]

Prediction: this thread hits 100 pages 2-3 of which will be this joke.

I couldn't not say it. I regret it now.

 

[Liquid Smoke]

I couldn't not say it. I regret it now.

The one who said it second makes it a trend.

 

[Trotsky]

O fuck ya lol. Finally these fascist "anti fascists" are being targeted.

Do you have any problem with flippantly and erroneously using the word "fascist" to just reflect "things that I don't like or think are mean"?

With the right-wings illiterate (or rather, I would proffer, careless) misuse of terms like fascist, communist, capitalism, free speech, socialist, due process, and liberal -- all of which have definable meanings -- it becomes impossible to produce agreed-upon terms for discussion and discourse breaks down over time.

 

[Billy no mates]

Why does race need to enter the conversation about masked terrorists violently disrupting peaceful political events?

Because they seem most intent on attacking peaceful torch carrying white folk .

 

[Trotsky]

There is no fascist movement in the US regardless of what you think about Trump.

This is beside the point, but you're a decent poster and this is so patently absurd that I have to interject. Setting aside the fact that neo-Nazi membership is ticking up, white supremacist activity is on the rise, and white nationalist membership is exploding, Trump is definitionally fascist in several ways, as is his support.

In the era of Trump, there has been:
i. heightened distrust and displeasure in democracy ("the election is gonna be rigged!")
ii. heightened glorification of autocratic rule (Trump saying "only I have the answers" and glorifying Putin, Kim, Saddam, etc.)
iii. radical opposition to free press and free flow of factual information (yelling "fake news" about verifiably factual things, attacking journalists)
iv. disregard or scapegoating of due process
v. complete embrace of revisionist history (one minute saying the unemployment rate is a farce then immediately claiming it as a virtue, openly denying verifiable facts)
vi. radical reallocation of power to corporate cartels (staffing the government with oil and coal lobbyists)
vii. completely fluid, irresponsible, and careless fiscal policy (just lol here)
viii. open violation of liberal democratic institutions and processes (DOJ, voter purges, demands of loyalty)

I mean, there's more that I could go on with. But it's just ridiculous to say "there is no fascist movement." To say that is to completely forego knowing anything about fascism. If you have any interest in this topic, the one set of works from Leon Trotsky that I would most recommend to anyone are his brilliant essays on fascism. Here are some abbreviated excerpts: https://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/works/1944/1944-fas.htm

 

[Gunny]

If anyone should be supporting this it’s non-violent progressives. Antifa’s behavior is a giant net-negative to the progressive cause.

 

[nostradumbass]

15 years for yelling at cops while disguised. Seems a bit excessive.

No. Who suggested that? This is for burning property, clubbing people from behind and running off, bear spraying chicks you've never met just because vox told you Trump is literally Hitler.

Not sure why sensible lefties(if that's a thing) wouldn't want to tamp down on people who make your side look even more ridiculous by playing dress up and joing the resistance, maaaaaan.

 

[Phelly2]

Because they seem most intent on attacking peaceful torch carrying white folk .

I'm sure they're happy to attack anyone they disagree with. Sometimes those people happen to be racist white folks.

Other times, they're beating people up because Ben Shapiro is in town.

 

[tonni]

No. Who suggested that? This is for burning property, clubbing people from behind and running off, bear spraying chicks you've never met just because vox told you Trump is literally Hitler.

Did you read the link?

"Oppresses, threatens or intimidates anyone" that's open for interpretation.

 

[Trotsky]

Okay.

But to get back to the main topic, an anti-fascist who uses violence to suppress his political opponents is still a fascist. And a terrorist, by definition.

You don't know what a fascist is then. Fascist doesn't mean "person who is violent." People need to stop misusing the term.

Terrorist? Fine, I'll concede that they are terrorists, although even that requires a pretty liberal definition thereof.

 

[Billy no mates]

I'm sure they're happy to attack anyone they disagree with. Sometimes those people happen to be racist white folks.

Other times, they're beating people up because Ben Shapiro is in town.

Terrible that the forces of the state have no existing way of curtailing such nefarious activities .