Popovitch vs Chsiev is a very interesting grappling/wrestling battle. Pablo took wrestling very seriously, he trained under a Georgian Olympian down in Florida and I believe he entered the US Open and a few other high level freestyle tournaments. I was really looking forward to his MMA career but it was very short-lived.its hyperbole yes, but personally i dont think there are many guys who can go toe to toe with him standing in the grappling scene.
who do you honestly think could do it? pablo? itd be a fight but i dont think thats a battle hed win in the long run.
maby if ben askren decides to do grappling again we'ed see it.
Chsiev is a greco, freestyle, sambo, judo, or bjj guy?
He does freestyle along with sub grappling competitions. Perhaps sambo too. He's had a few mma fights as well.
He is a freestyle wrestler.
Where he learns his submissions?
He trains in K-Dojo. Rustam makes up a lot of his moves himself.
As far as I know, he has been repping the K-Dojo gym in Fairfield NJ for years.Where he learns his submissions?
You can tell Chisiev is damn good though by looking at those NYAC matches. He keeps it close with most everybody and scores on all of them. He defeated at least 1 NCAA DI All American at those tournaments and he got screwed out of a win over an Indian Olympian and world medalist. Damn good wrestler.LOL @ comparing Einarr or Uchi Mata to Rustam Chsiev.
I don't think Judo or Sambo is nearly as popular as wrestling in the North Caucasus, especially in Ossetia. They are popular though.
I know he got wrecked by Jon Reader in the NYAC Open. He seems to have wrestled that tournament a few times and never placed.
You can tell Chisiev is damn good though by looking at those NYAC matches. He keeps it close with most everybody and scores on all of them. He defeated at least 1 NCAA DI All American at those tournaments and he got screwed out of a win over an Indian Olympian and world medalist. Damn good wrestler.
Side note, Reader is really friggin good. He had a good shot at making the world team this year at 79 kilo's but got hurt. Reader vs Dake would've been awesome.
Yeah he's from Ossetia in Russia. He was plugged into the Olympic style wrestling scene back there as a coach. He has competed mostly in submission grappling but has done a good deal of freestyle wrestling. He has defeated NCAA DI All Americans and even an NCAA DI champ and USA world team member in Keith Gavin. I don't know too much more about him.Reader was D1 Champ 2 years before Rustam's match with Reader. Crazy.
You know anything about Rustam's wrestling background? I think he comes from a place where everyone and their mother wrestles from a young age but that's all I know.
1. Can you snapdown with a collar tie and (shallow?) underhook as opposed to a standard inside tie?
Yes, the underhook is actually the classic position for snapping down into a front headlock.
It seems easier to get into front headlock using a snapdown intitiated from a tricep tie as opposed to an underhook, is what I mean.
That would be an 'intuitive' sense, that two ties which are 'over' would be better for 'moving down' than a tie which is 'under', but like with mathematics, the more 'reflexive' ways a human might think about a problem might not necessarily be a more correct way.
The utility of an underhook to the snapdown situation cannot be considered in isolation. That is to say, with regards to other attacks that can be done with an underhook. In the first place, it is a fact that a lazy snap can in some ways be basically helping your opponent to shoot in on you, saving him the trouble of setting it up with you graciously doing it for him. In this case, the underhook also serves as a 'check valve', ensuring that your opponent stays under control throughout the proceedings, with much more limited ability to penetrate into the hips.
Furthermore, and in particular, for someone who wishes to avoid being snapped down, one of the most natural reactions is simply to tend towards a taller, more upright posture to resist; what happens when you have an underhook on someone who's standing tall? You can easily throw them by, or get a pinch headlock, or hit a knee tap, or turn them over your hip for a reverse headlock pin (the turn to the underhook side is what most people know, but from a pinch you can actually turn them the other way too, like how Sergei Beloglazov shows here:
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Hence, if you have an underhook on someone (and are preventing them from getting an underhook), you essentially have them caught between a rock and a hard place. You can't always easily predict how a beginner will act (or how someone who's the best of the best and self-consciously aware of the game will act), but someone who's experienced will often try to take a 'lesser evil', denying the easiest approaches (so illustrated) by getting lower and putting pressure on your underhook (like this). It is for this reason that proficiency in snapping people down is a so valuable component of gaining success in neutral, in many different situations (especially against guys with highly defensive hips back crouched postures).
The collar tie is one of the most common (read, one of the most reflexive) tie-ups people go for, so tactics for playing off of an opponent going for collar ties pay dividends, and one of the most straitforward fundamental methods of doing so is simply arcing your elbow past their elbow to slot your underhook in.