How good a boxer was prime Paulie Malignaggi?

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Let me start by saying wouldn't even consider myself a casual boxing fan. I watch a few big fights a year.

This whole drama with Paulie Malignaggi fighting Artem feels a bit bush league to me. Or that this guy is starved for attention. I get that he wants a fight with Conor.

I know he won belts in boxing but also know boxing has 100 belts in every division. How good was this guy?
I don't really see any names on his wins besides an older Zab Judah. But like i said not a big boxing fan.

Who could you compare him too in MMA? Just curious cause he's been in the mma news alot.
 
Let me start by saying wouldn't even consider myself a casual boxing fan. I watch a few big fights a year.

This whole drama with Paulie Malignaggi fighting Artem feels a bit bush league to me. Or that this guy is starved for attention. I get that he wants a fight with Conor.

I know he won belts in boxing but also know boxing has 100 belts in every division. How good was this guy?
I don't really see any names on his wins besides an older Zab Judah. But like i said not a big boxing fan.

Who could you compare him too in MMA? Just curious cause he's been in the mma news alot.
2x Former World Champion.
Won a title in two weight classes, and they were legit titles.
The 4 legit titles in every weight class are the WBO, WBC, WBA, and the IBF.
He was the IBF World Super Lightweight Champ and the WBA World Welterweight Champ at different instances in his career.
Fast hands, good movement, good chin, just not very hard hitting.

I don't know who the MMA comparison would be, but Paulie will beat Artem brutally when they fight
 
Tough NY Italian dude, good boxer, esp his jab, high boxing iq, no power, brittle hands. He wasn't anything special, prime Cotto kicked the shit out of him (now he was special), but he was pretty good in his own right.
 
2x Former World Champion.
Won a title in two weight classes, and they were legit titles.
The 4 legit titles in every weight class are the WBO, WBC, WBA, and the IBF.
He was the IBF World Super Lightweight Champ and the WBA World Welterweight Champ at different instances in his career.
Fast hands, good movement, good chin, just not very hard hitting.

I don't know who the MMA comparison would be, but Paulie will beat Artem brutally when they fight

Spot on, bro. The only thing I'd add would be that he's also got loads of heart. He suffered a broken cheekbone vs a prime Miguel Cotto & still went the distance with him back when Cotto was knocking everyone out. He also took man-sized beatings from Ricky Hatton & Amir Kahn but complained when those fights were stopped. So, those MMA fans who think that Paulie will somehow get squeamish if things get bloody against Lobov are going to be in for a surprise. Although I doubt whether Lobov is going to be able to land very often against him. Paulie may well be past it but even a past his prime Paulie's defense is going to be too much for Lobov to handle.
 
Considering how much more advanced boxing is compared to MMA. To get an accurate picture you would need to picture the top 60 as all equivalent to fedor and Pauli’s was one of those fedors who managed to beat other fedors and win a belt.
 
One thing to consider about Paulies hands as well. When he was boxing he is basically the stereotype of somebody who didn’t clench their fists to get extra speed hence the brittleness of his hands and the lack of power on his shoeshines. Against subpar comp he doesn’t need that advantage and if he decides to sit down a bit and clench his fists we will see a totally different Paulie. Once again this is due to him fighting a scrub vs boxers with a pulse
 
Underrated IMO because he can be a little emotional and douchey.

Respectable resume though, and tough as hell.

If he has anything left, he'll piece up Lobov without much issue.
are you describing
Paulie or Seano?
 
Him getting stopped by Sam Eggington, retiring and not fighting for over 2 years since isn't giving me too much confidence in him these days. Hopefully he well prepared for this.
 
Really dislikes him the first time I saw him jumping in the ring looking like a jersey shore douche. Won me over with his skill and incredible toughness. Much tougher than the frosted tips let on!!
 
Looks like they are wearing gloves so any small chance artem had of winning is over
 
Paulie was a solid world class fighter in his prime. Great boxing IQ, very good technician with very good footwork.

He definitely made the most of his career considering the problems he had with his hands.

Lost to guys that were either elite or very close to it. The Cotto and Hatton fights proved his durability and willingness to scrap it out.

Definitely underrated by some because of the hairstyles and mouth lol.

With the 5 inch reach advantage he'll have over Artem I dont expect he'll have too tough a time unless he gets absolutely careless to a degree I dont think we've never seen from him.
 
I think Paulie uses that jab to explode Artem's face. He can still jab and move his head off center and his feet well enough to just use his left to pick Artem's face apart. I really think his jab will win that fight alone and do a lot of damage to a wild, raw fighter like Lobov.
 
Let me start by saying wouldn't even consider myself a casual boxing fan. I watch a few big fights a year.

This whole drama with Paulie Malignaggi fighting Artem feels a bit bush league to me. Or that this guy is starved for attention. I get that he wants a fight with Conor.

I know he won belts in boxing but also know boxing has 100 belts in every division. How good was this guy?
I don't really see any names on his wins besides an older Zab Judah. But like i said not a big boxing fan.

Who could you compare him too in MMA? Just curious cause he's been in the mma news alot.

I’m sure u will get a lot of different opinions on this. I’ll start off by saying I’ve watched boxing since 5 was a huge fan all my life but around the time pretty boy Floyd became money and The Klitchko brothers ruled at heavyweight I gave much more energy to mma. I really only girl interested in boxing again when Fury won the titles and the rise of loma. I hate Floyd with a passion I believe it is his fault for the fights not getting made we want to see and the constant cherry piccing. He created that trend in boxing and it has never recovered. Look bacc to
The 90s and u will see all the great names of the game have losses to one another and their was always a priority to become an undisputed champ. Now that I have that out the way.

I would say that Paulie was a good boxer. B level at best. Is best win was against Judah who was way past his prime and his speed and legs were gone. Besides that Paulie lost to every top level guy Hatton cotto Khan even Broner thou many will Argue Paulie should have one that fight on point.

For his positive attributes he was very fast, had good movement and footwork, decent defense ( he fought ohilly shell a lot and depended a lot on his head movement and feet to slip punches somaa good as he was at defense he got tagged a good bit for his hands down) great jab, was a combination volume puncher, good body work, and a granite chin.

On the negative side everyone will say no power. When u can’t hurt Amir Khan that says a lot. He couldn’t even get Kahn’s respect. With this next lacc of power Paulie was stucc a lot just fighting backwards, grabbing, scoring with a jab, high punch counts to the body, but he was constantly under pressure. Rarely did he set the tempo I would say he did against Broner cuz AB just stands and counters and has an epic low punch count. His defense was good except sometimes Paulie would pull straight bacc and although having good head movement and fast feet he ate quite a few bc he would fight a lot with his hands down philly style but actually a lil lower. Paulie was a decent boxer but not a good fighter. Good fighters have a lot of tools in their buccet. Paulie would come out with a game plan and he had a hard time changes gears he would keep at the same thing even if it was working and would get Down on score cards and was not able to close the show so would have no chance to win. The Hatton fight is a perfect example of this. IMO Paulie coulda had more promise than the did. He got titles but never beat a marquee fighter in their prime. I personally think Paulie thought he was better than he was and failed to close in the wholes I’m his game. He was small for the weight classes he fought in as well and going down might have helped his power vs opponents But then Jiangxi speed wouldn’t have been as much but who knows.

To everyone who feels Paulie will destroy Artem I’m not so convinced. His boxing skills don’t correlate to BKFC well. Now a guy like Tyson who is a high pressure fighter with vicious power explosiveness who can fight on the inside and has a decent chin is perfect. But a high volume point fighter who depends on his jab, likes to work the body, lacks power or pressure and depends on constant movement doesn’t correlate as well. For one more punches will break ur hands. 2 this ring is smaller and going to be harder to move. Next body shots are worthless in a 10 minute fight. Also u need power to hold an aggressive guyblikw Artem off u. Artem will way a million jabs but will keeep coming forward. Paulie might be able to open up that scar tissue thou and win via cut. Also Paulie is accustomed to using larger gloves and doesn’t have the muscle memory to see the smaller opening both on defense and offense. Pulling back like he does he will get caught even by a guy like Artem and then when he brings his hands bacc up his muscle memory will be trained thinking he has larger blocking area which he doesn’t. Paulie is used to fighting boxers who use proper technique and respect the art of boxing. Artem does not do either and will come just winging haymakers and awkward shots which can actually be harder for a boxer to deal with, see Floyd vs Maidana 1. Also at a disadvantage is Artem has more experience in brawl type fights and he also has experience in a war inside that circle. This accounts for a lot. Artem knows how his hands will feel he knows what the bone on bone shots feel like. He has been opened up and knows what it’s like to bleed, he knows the feeling of the ring and the space he has in there and the trap points as well as he understands the energy of the crowd. Artem also isn’t taking Paulie lightly while Paulie is eating pizza and craccing jokes on interviews. This is arrogant and may play out to him not performing on the night. He also is accustomed to a boxing crowd. BKFC attracts more of mma crossover than boxing the same fans that Paulie has constantly put down and called names so the energy will be completely against him which can also affect his performance. Sorry such a long reaponse but I’ve given a lot of thought to this.
 
It's always pleasant to see guys with obvious disadvantages get their share of success because of their skills. Boxing needs Paulies.
 
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