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Social Obamas buy new $11.75 million vineyard estate

I love how suddenly liberals are quite reasonable about meritocratic earning potential when it's a wealthy black liberal politician.

I agree with the OP about this one thing: Obama earned it. The rich almost always do. They should get to keep it.
 
I don't give a rat's ass where he lives. He definitely earned it. But its pretty hypocritical to live there and then have your wife tell all white people they're racist because they don't live in black neighborhoods.

Edit: Her exact words:
The post Presidential home of Barack and Michelle Obama is in the Kenwood/ Hyde Park neighborhood of South Chicago. Notable current/former residents include:
  • Elijah Muhammad, Muddy Waters, Muhammad Ali, Carol Moseley Braun, Louis Farrakhan, Valerie Jarret among others.
 
I saw something earlier today about his 65 million dollar book deal. It said it was because his admin gave Penguin hundreds of millions to create common core math curriculum. Quid pro quo.


Sounds like you listen to people who like to lie.

The state-led effort to develop the Common Core State Standards was launched in 2009 by state leaders, including governors and state commissioners of education from 48 states, two territories and the District of Columbia, through their membership in the National Governors Association Center for Best Practices (NGA Center) and the Council of Chief State School Officers (CCSSO). State school chiefs and governors recognized the value of consistent, real-world learning goals and launched this effort to ensure all students, regardless of where they live, are graduating high school prepared for college, career, and life.
http://www.corestandards.org/about-the-standards/development-process/
 
It has to be every company directly benefitting?
Just some cursory googling and it seems that basically banks and friends of the banks pay him.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/06/20/obam-j20.html
Btw Netflix benefitted the banks via bind issues and secondary raises. So, they might be just hooking him up as a favor, you never know.
So Russia might just be hooking up Trump as a favor, you never know... {<shrug}
 
The post Presidential home of Barack and Michelle Obama is in the Kenwood/ Hyde Park neighborhood of South Chicago. Notable current/former residents include:
  • Elijah Muhammad, Muddy Waters, Muhammad Ali, Carol Moseley Braun, Louis Farrakhan, Valerie Jarret among others.
I'm aware. I just figured Michelle would want to continue living in a diverse area considering her recent comments about how other people should.
 
There is nothing contraditory about what she said and buying this house. Can anyone actually prove they bought the house because they want to live with White people, as opposed to buying the house because of the gorgeous views and affluent surrounding?

Conservatives have thisc crazy nonsencial idea that liberals should go live in the ghetto because they (liberals) are sympathetic to Black grievances.

We should hope to see our GOP reps living in Paduka, KY, then.....
 
I don't give a rat's ass where he lives. He definitely earned it. But its pretty hypocritical to live there and then have your wife tell all white people they're racist because they don't live in black neighborhoods.

Edit: Her exact words:
It's only hypocritical if you don't understand what she said.
She didnt say all white people are racist.
She said that there are white people that fear black people, and believe that blacks will lower their property values.
It's not because they necessarily hate blacks, but there is a perception that a "black neighborhood" can only be dangerous or ghetto.

The Obamas having a house in the Hamptons isnt hypocritical because it has nothing to do with race. They have the money to live there, so that's where they're going. They arent going there to be with white people, or avoid black people.
 
I think in the abstract you'd agree with me that people who think that lying is good when it helps advance their propaganda purposes are trash. But since in this particular case, you agree with the tactic and the aim, you're offended.

I'm not talking about I agree with someone lying, I'm talking about I agree with someone's direct post in regards to an individual calling a group of people out (I saw Mr Holmes post Michelle's exact quote so there's no confusion here) while doing exactly what she/they would criticize. I find that very hypocritical whether it's an Obama or a Trump or whoever to make the quoted comments, her actual comments, and then buy a near 12 million dollar house in an almost all white neighborhood. That's a fair opinion given the context. She even used the words "white people" when people purchasing up has nothing to do with race, as she herself is showing here. People want to do better in life, the end, and she made it racial when it was unnecessary and polarizing. That's what I agree with.

---However, my bigger issue, is your recent responses towards me. The last two topics you engaged me in (Hillary candidate and this topic) you both called me a profanity in your second response to a post of mine, unprovoked, and then called me part of a group of trash in this one in your first, unprovoked. Which is strange since I have always been overly respectful to you and spoke very highly of you. That ends today. You fancy yourself this intellectual who is always objectively true. You're smart, well read, but you aren't objective. Not only are you not objective, but you insult people who disagree with you even when they show you constant respect, myself an example. To be clear. There's no response to this post you can give that erases the fact that you instantly called me a profanity, and trash, on two separate topics when I've never once come close to addressing you this way.

That isn't the mark of someone who has class or sophistication. Do you know how I know this? Because I have class and never would use such remarks as opening statements of discussion. The only reason why it did happen is because you don't have any. Without it, it makes your arguments appear more questionable and less credible. It makes you look immature, a child pounding a table because something is discussed that you don't like or agreement isn't met to your standard of concession. There is no way you carry on like this in real life, hopefully. Anyway, I'm just some dude, but respect is a two way street, and you've completely lost mine for whatever that's worth on an online karate political sub forum. I thought I'd be fair enough to let you know.

Write up some super cool guy reply where you do no self-reflection, call me another insult to triple down, write up "cool story bro", ignore this post, respond however you like. I'm not replying back though. Get that last word in bro.
 
I didn't think it was any secret that public office holders don't want the job for the salary or to be a public servant, they want them for power and publicity and to cash in on favors.

Do any of their houses look or lifestyles look like they're really concerned about global warming and sea levels?
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Aren’t you a staunch defender of Trump? Weird that this is the thread you choose to take exception and post your feelings on elected officials when you’ve spent the last 3 years claiming the motives of your guy’s are completely altruistic.
 
I find it funny how these clowns are asking in the comment section how Obama was able to afford this new home when he only made 400K a year as president. Apparently they arent bright to think outside box like the 65 Million Penguin publish paid then in a bidding war to own the rights to publish their books. Or Netflix shelling out 100 million for a deal with them. Worse part of it all is that these sheeps give the comments like this thumbs up without digging up some factual proof to what they say.

Unlike Trump who is stealing Americans money by having spent over 100 million dollars to go golfing to his OWN golf course, Obama is not stealing from Americans. He is earning his money with books, Podcast, tv deals and speaking engagements. Thats the difference between Trump and Obama, one is a thief who only has time to golf when he said he wouldnt have time if he were president and the other is a hard worker. LOL

Anyways what do you guys think of the home? I think it is beautiful and the location is perfect.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/barack-michelle-obama-just-bought-214928884.html

Obama came to my small Canadian town to do a speaking event. Tickets were like $200 and above, and VIP packages to get a picture with him were 5-10k. He packed a local arena. You have to respect that ex-president hustle.
 
I'm not talking about I agree with someone lying

I am, though. The guy lied about Obama's comments and then Anung defended that because apparently since he agrees, it's OK to lie. And then you agreed with that. The issue being discussed isn't relevant, precisely because honesty should be seen as non-negotiable regardless of one's positions on issues.

---However, my bigger issue, is your recent responses towards me. The last two topics you engaged me in (Hillary candidate and this topic) you both called me a profanity in your second response to a post of mine, unprovoked, and then called me part of a group of trash in this one in your first, unprovoked. Which is strange since I have always been overly respectful to you and spoke very highly of you. That ends today. You fancy yourself this intellectual who is always objectively true. You're smart, well read, but you aren't objective. Not only are you not objective, but you insult people who disagree with you even when they show you constant respect, myself an example. To be clear. There's no response to this post you can give that erases the fact that you instantly called me a profanity, and trash, on two separate topics when I've never once come close to addressing you this way.

That isn't the mark of someone who has class or sophistication. Do you know how I know this? Because I have class and never would use such remarks as opening statements of discussion. The only reason why it did happen is because you don't have any.

My view of class is different, obviously. I don't think lying or trying to justify lying is classy, and I believe we have a moral obligation to call it out, even if hurts some feelings. Similarly, I think "I'm not going to bother trying to examine an issue because anyone who disagrees with my position can pre-emptively be declared irredeemable," is less classy than a genteel (but apparently not genteel enough) expression of disdain for that approach. I believe that doing the right thing will naturally ruffle some feathers, and it's unfortunate but still needs to be done.
 
I am, though. The guy lied about Obama's comments and then Anung defended that because apparently since he agrees, it's OK to lie. And then you agreed with that. The issue being discussed isn't relevant, precisely because honesty should be seen as non-negotiable regardless of one's positions on issues.



My view of class is different, obviously. I don't think lying or trying to justify lying is classy, and I believe we have a moral obligation to call it out, even if hurts some feelings. Similarly, I think "I'm not going to bother trying to examine an issue because anyone who disagrees with my position can pre-emptively be declared irredeemable," is less classy than a genteel (but apparently not genteel enough) expression of disdain for that approach. I believe that doing the right thing will naturally ruffle some feathers, and it's unfortunate but still needs to be done.

You're fucking lying here dude
 
Damn Obama seems like a greedy capitalist, we should confiscate his land and wealth so we can pay for poor foreign nationals.
 
No One cares what Obama buys, this is a free country he can buy what he wants.

Conservatives just point out the hypocrisy of it because the Democrats have become socialist who pretend to hate wealthy people yet Obama is their poster boy.
And just like most Democrat politicians he is very wealthy.

And Trump does the job of President for free. He is also very wealthy.
 
No One cares what Obama buys, this is a free country he can buy what he wants.

Conservatives just point out the hypocrisy of it because the Democrats have become socialist who pretend to hate wealthy people yet Obama is their poster boy.
And just like most Democrat politicians he is very wealthy.

And Trump does the job of President for free. He is also very wealthy.

Very few Democrats are actually socialists (no one elected at the national level that I'm aware of). No one actually pretends to hate rich people.

Also, no one has benefited financially from being president more than Trump.
 
I'm aware. I just figured Michelle would want to continue living in a diverse area considering her recent comments about how other people should.

She does like to play the victimhood card, doesn't she? Despite, you know, having have lived in privilege that most people would literally murder other people for.
 
I didn't think it was any secret that public office holders don't want the job for the salary or to be a public servant, they want them for power and publicity and to cash in on favors.

Do any of their houses look or lifestyles look like they're really concerned about global warming and sea levels?
Michael is certainly not concerned about buying million$-mansion in a white neighborhood.
 
The post Presidential home of Barack and Michelle Obama is in the Kenwood/ Hyde Park neighborhood of South Chicago. Notable current/former residents include:
  • Elijah Muhammad, Muddy Waters, Muhammad Ali, Carol Moseley Braun, Louis Farrakhan, Valerie Jarret among others.
Muhammad Ali lives there? Nice.


Edit: missed the "former" part. Derp.
 
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