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Is Europe and Africa taking over the UFC?

HW: Ngannou - Cameroon, France
LHW: Blachowicz - Poland
MW: Adesanya - Nigeria, New Zealand
WW: Usman - Nigeria, USA
LW: Khabib - Russia
FW: Volkanovski - Australia, Macedonia
BW: Yan - Russia
 
OK, geographically it lies at the intersection of Eastern Europe and Western Asia. Culturally, however, it's often considered a European country. Georgia is part of UEFA for football and they participate in the Eurovision song contest.

https://www.quora.com/Is-Georgia-part-of-Europe

https://slate.com/news-and-politics...opean-country-what-does-that-really-mean.html

They participate only for political reasons. Georgia was never part of Europe. But EU has changed geographical bounderies for solely political reasons, which is unacceptable.

LW: Khabib - Russia

BW: Yan - Russia

They both are not champs anymore. you know?!
 
Well why is it relevant unless we’re talking about upbringing? He’s a product of America.
Didn't he start his fighting training in Paris?

So Europe might as well claim him as "theirs" based on that logic.

The man is African, clearly, and also identifies as such.
 
Dana White better bring the UFC to Poland, Nigeria, Cameroon and Czech Republic.
 
They participate only for political reasons. Georgia was never part of Europe. But EU has changed geographical bounderies for solely political reasons, which is unacceptable.



They both are not champs anymore. you know?!
I cannot consider Aljo as the champ - no offense.

And the LW belt is still vacant.
 
TJ Dillashaw and Ronda Rousey were the last champs Americans embraced as being American.

Whether it be Ngannou, Lewis, Jones, the HW belt is staying around the waist of an African man or Eastern European (Stipe).
 
I cannot consider Aljo as the champ - no offense.

And the LW belt is still vacant.

They are officially not champions though. None of them is champion right now.
And Khabib shouldn't be included in that stats anyways. He doesn't deserve it.
 
I don't see Usman sticking around for the next few years. But Adesanya will still be the middleweight champion by at least 2023. Ngannou - don't really care

Europe has so many good fighters though - mainly from Russia, some from Georgia and Mediterranean countries.
 
The US has been tumbling pretty badly in most international sports. For men, an American hasn't been consistently in the top 10 in tennis or won a grand slam for like 15 years.

The younger generations in the US are probably the softest in the country's history and celebrate mediocrity. Sports greatness is mostly for people whose families have been in poverty in the last generation or 2, with a few exceptions. Africa and Eastern Europe have had severe poverty in this lifetime, so dedication to sports with few other better ways to spring out of poverty makes sense.

TJ Dillashaw and Ronda Rousey were the last champs Americans embraced as being American.

Whether it be Ngannou, Lewis, Jones, the HW belt is staying around the waist of an African man or Eastern European (Stipe).
Why aren't Lewis and Jones American? If we can't count non white people or anybody whose families came to the US in the last few generations, we're digging from a very small pool of people. The US population was half what it is now just 50 years ago, and like 20% of them weren't white. Neither Jones nor Lewis have any recent immigrants in their families.

And why would it be Rousey and Dillashaw that you think "Americans embraced", and not any of the subsequent champs in their own divisions? Rousey lost to Holm and Holm lost to Meisha Tate, both Americans, and Cody Garbrandt was champ at 135 as well as the current champ.

Chris Weidman was champ at 185, Luke Rockhold was champ at MW as well, DC was champ at 205, Robbie Lawler, Hendricks at 170, Alvarez at 155, Holloway at 145, MM at 125, Lesnar at HW. There have been a lot of American champs over the last decade.
 
Well Africans are usually genetically more talented than the rest of the population plus you talk about continent and not about a single country which would have been much more impressive. The real question is why there are barely any indian and Chinese elite fighters despite that they are together almost half of the world.
 
A level athletes baby. Couple of our boys switch over from playing football and it will be a clean sweep.

It’s not unlike boxing tbh. When the iron curtain fell and more and more country’s took up the sport, US dominance was effectively ended. The US aren’t a bad sporting nation, but definitely specialise in sports that no one else is really bothered about.
 
Africa has the best gene pool for fighting.
Eastern Europe incl. Caucasus has the best mentality for fighting.
Georgians are going to become a thing if MMA catches on over there like it has in Dagestan.

Your genetic sequence impacts your mentality every bit as much as your physicality. Moreso if you consider that the latter is much easier to train.

If a group of people has the best fighting mentality, then imo they also have the best fighting genetics.
 
The US has been tumbling pretty badly in most international sports. For men, an American hasn't been consistently in the top 10 in tennis or won a grand slam for like 15 years.

The younger generations in the US are probably the softest in the country's history and celebrate mediocrity. Sports greatness is mostly for people whose families have been in poverty in the last generation or 2, with a few exceptions. Africa and Eastern Europe have had severe poverty in this lifetime, so dedication to sports with few other better ways to spring out of poverty makes sense.


Why aren't Lewis and Jones American? If we can't count non white people or anybody whose families came to the US in the last few generations, we're digging from a very small pool of people. The US population was half what it is now just 50 years ago, and like 20% of them weren't white. Neither Jones nor Lewis have any recent immigrants in their families.

And why would it be Rousey and Dillashaw that you think "Americans embraced", and not any of the subsequent champs in their own divisions? Rousey lost to Holm and Holm lost to Meisha Tate, both Americans, and Cody Garbrandt was champ at 135 as well as the current champ.

Chris Weidman was champ at 185, Luke Rockhold was champ at MW as well, DC was champ at 205, Robbie Lawler, Hendricks at 170, Alvarez at 155, Holloway at 145, MM at 125, Lesnar at HW. There have been a lot of American champs over the last decade.

You are missing a bit in the picture i think. Combat athletes usually come from poor backgrounds. American poors have a tougher life than people in Eastern Europe on average. Yet America is giving way to Eastern Europe in combat sports.
 
Given the fact that most of these Eastern European countries have relatively low populations, it's pretty impressive how many high caliber fighters there are.
Only the Strong survive.
 
The population of Europe is more than x2 the population of the US. The population of Africa is almost 5x that of the US. The population of Asia is more than 10x of the US.

Per capita, the US is still king.
 
You are missing a bit in the picture i think. Combat athletes usually come from poor backgrounds. American poors have a tougher life than people in Eastern Europe on average. Yet America is giving way to Eastern Europe in combat sports.
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I have a lot of Eastern European friends and am marrying an Eastern European in a month, and they were all way poorer growing up than anybody in America. How much of the US population is globally poor? Maybe a few percentage points? Eastern Europe is certainly improving while western countries are getting worse, but we're not talking about people born this decade, we're talking about people born 20-40 years ago, and the average person in Eastern Europe in the 90s and early 2000s was fucking rough while we only had a handful of people who were comparably poor.
 
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I have a lot of Eastern European friends and am marrying an Eastern European in a month, and they were all way poorer growing up than anybody in America. How much of the US population is globally poor? Maybe a few percentage points? Eastern Europe is certainly improving while western countries are getting worse, but we're not talking about people born this decade, we're talking about people born 20-40 years ago, and the average person in Eastern Europe in the 90s and early 2000s was fucking rough while we only had a handful of people who were comparably poor.

Think again. If you are really poor in the US it means no medical coverage, garbage education and being surrounded by drugs and crime in some gettho / trailer park area.

The average eastern euro does not have to live through that.
 
Think again. If you are really poor in the US it means no medical coverage, garbage education and being surrounded by drugs and crime in some gettho / trailer park area.

The average eastern euro does not have to live through that.
If you are really poor in the US, you certainly do have medical coverage through medicaid. The education is horrific despite promiscuous spending because you're trapped in shitty schools. The people who don't have medical coverage in the US aren't the really poor, it's average income people in their 20s who opt out of insurance.

Eastern Euros have far superior education because they pick a street and go. If you do sports, you do that sport all day, if it's music, you go to a music school, or my fiancee went to science school. IMO that's the one thing communists did right.
 
If you are really poor in the US, you certainly do have medical coverage through medicaid. The education is horrific despite promiscuous spending because you're trapped in shitty schools. The people who don't have medical coverage in the US aren't the really poor, it's average income people in their 20s who opt out of insurance.

Eastern Euros have far superior education because they pick a street and go. If you do sports, you do that sport all day, if it's music, you go to a music school, or my fiancee went to science school. IMO that's the one thing communists did right.

Have you actually been there and talked to people in their language?
I have. The average person does not endure levels near american poverty. Sure it's a tough life but there is some dignity to be found.
 
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