Sergei is nothing new or special.

[krelianx]

He is a large, powerful guy with dangerous hands and a Greco-Roman and Sambo background. Guys like Aleksander, Sergei, Minakov, Zentsov, are the best comparisons. Though he doesn't have the grappling accolades the others had.

He is not something new, but a proven dangerous prototype. Who also has the advantage of training in a modern MMA world with a ton of accumulated knowledge, and competing in a currently weak division.

This is a division where a guy like Lewis or Tuivasa can be contenders. Pavlovich is in a very good standing.

 

[D 1 Wrestler]

You know this was a staged BS match, right?

 

[icemun]

Jones didn’t beat the best fighter in the heavier weight class, despite what the UFC would have you believe. It’s still quite an accomplishment though.

The interim champion and #1 contender is NOT the best fighter?

Wut ?

 

[Soggust]

What’s wild is that if Pavlovich were to knock out Jones, he’d have a decent HW GOAT case.

 

[regmma123]

He even knows how to do the Fred Sanford .

 

[Captain_Dammitt]

Only the people that desperately want to see Jon loose are the ones claiming Pav is best hw out there.

 

[TankAbbott4Eva]

Only the people that desperately want to see Jon loose are the ones claiming Pav is best hw out there.

I think he's the most dangerous option for Jones to fight, I'm not sure he can beat Bones though.

 

[balkanbomber85]

Serjoga is a solid fighter but at the end of the day his hype is really made of over 80% JBJ haters who just jumped on the next warwaggon...

 

[Kwic]

This “HW was always crap” narrative is getting stale. Remove weight classes and HW would be all there is.

It's kind of true though.
Argument that a HW can beat a LW doesn't change that. It's about skill level. Cormier off the couch could beat half of the division right now with ease probably. Imagine having guys skillful in all areas in top 15. There are always a few, but but there are also extremely average guys that hanging in top 15 for a long time because they hit hard, you can't deny that. Not saying the spectacular talent exists in all the other divisions but skill wise, historically, there are more fighters in the lower weight classes that are very good everywhere. You just had Daukaus in the top 10, losing fight after fight in minutes

 

[World eater]

It's kind of true though.
Argument that a HW can beat a LW doesn't change that. It's about skill level. Cormier off the couch could beat half of the division right now with ease probably. Imagine having guys skillful in all areas in top 15. There are always a few, but but there are also extremely average guys that hanging in top 15 for a long time because they hit hard, you can't deny that. Not saying the spectacular talent exists in all the other divisions but skill wise, historically, there are more fighters in the lower weight classes that are very good everywhere. You just had Daukaus in the top 10, losing fight after fight in minutes

It’s kind of true, but it is also true that people skilled in all areas who are 250 pounds are rare. It is also true that big, heavy guys are prone to more injuries. It is also true that at HW any flush hit can KO. And it is also true that many guys that big will choose another sport instead of mma for better money and less CTE.
When mma started it was considered “as close to real fights as possible”. We have gone a long, long way from that, but calling the HW division shit in most threads is still annoying, especially for us dinosaurs who still remember the good old days.

 

[MMonk]

Controversial point scoring.
1-0 by Gardner.
In 1997 Karelyn dominated Gardner 6-0

Also, you posted one time Karelyn got Silver.
Why didn't you post other results when Karelyn dominated US wrestlers to win the gold ?

Win Jeff Blatnick DQ 13–0 1987-10-15

Win Duane Koslowski Tech Fall 1988-09-20

Win Craig Pittman Fall 3:16 1989-08-24

Win Matt Ghaffari Decision 1–0 1996-07-22

Win Rulon Gardner Decision 6–0 1997-09-10

Win Matt Ghaffari Decision 8–0 1998-08-27


Cherry picking much, Mr US wrestling?

 

[Ripp0ntare]

It's kind of true though.
Argument that a HW can beat a LW doesn't change that. It's about skill level. Cormier off the couch could beat half of the division right now with ease probably. Imagine having guys skillful in all areas in top 15. There are always a few, but but there are also extremely average guys that hanging in top 15 for a long time because they hit hard, you can't deny that. Not saying the spectacular talent exists in all the other divisions but skill wise, historically, there are more fighters in the lower weight classes that are very good everywhere. You just had Daukaus in the top 10, losing fight after fight in minutes

This is true, shit 2 years ago Lewis was on the verge of becoming champion, how he's a punching bag panic wrestler. HWs primes burn out quick. Arlovski has been out of his prime since Fedor slept him but he has managed to hold on to a job. The only true HW i can think of that was extremely good for a long while was Werdum Stipe DC and Fedor really and DC didnt stay at HW. and DC left why?
For the reasons you just gave.

 

[fizzlehiss]

TS is quite dumb.

 

[D 1 Wrestler]

Controversial point scoring.
1-0 by Gardner.
In 1997 Karelyn dominated Gardner 6-0

Also, you posted one time Karelyn got Silver.
Why didn't you post other results when Karelyn dominated US wrestlers to win the gold ?

Win Jeff Blatnick DQ 13–0 1987-10-15

Win Duane Koslowski Tech Fall 1988-09-20

Win Craig Pittman Fall 3:16 1989-08-24

Win Matt Ghaffari Decision 1–0 1996-07-22

Win Rulon Gardner Decision 6–0 1997-09-10

Win Matt Ghaffari Decision 8–0 1998-08-27


Cherry picking much, Mr US wrestling?

Nobody in US cares about Greco. It's C tier wrestling

 

[DontBeMad]

Jones never fought Rumble...

You are correct and FYI no one said they fought…

 

[Superzorro]

Pav probably is the best wrestler in HW division as well. Khabib has trained with him and said he has amazing wrestling, plus he has a wrestling background in russia, which si 10x more valuable than having a wrestling background in USA.

So because Khabib says a countryman he trained with has "amazing wrestling," which is something that he's supposed to say mind you, that means he has the best wrestling in the entire division? The Russian wank in the MMA community is through the roof right now. I really don't get it. ...Like this post almost seems like satire.

Agreed. Genuine lol @ the perpetual delusion of fans who continuously hype up one dimensional strikers who get a streak going and act like Jones needs to "prove himself" against this guy. I swear these must be the same guys who think a waitress is hitting on them for bringing out their food like the desperation is real <Lmaoo>

And it's not like they think Pavlovich is more skilled than Jones. They're just hoping that Pavlovich catches him in the first round with a fluke punch, before Jones has the time to exploit all of his technical deficiencies. They know that Jones is the more sound, complete MMA fighter.

Or maybe die hard fans realize that a champion should fight the best contender in the division and not semi retired fighters. If Jones wants to fight Stipe then he is welcome to vacate the title.

"He is welcome to vacate the title." Lmao, I love how you act like you have a say in the matter. Jones will do whatever the fuck he wants.

 

[TheNinja]

He is a large, powerful guy with dangerous hands and a Greco-Roman and Sambo background. Guys like Aleksander, Sergei, Minakov, Zentsov, are the best comparisons. Though he doesn't have the grappling accolades the others had.

He is not something new, but a proven dangerous prototype. Who also has the advantage of training in a modern MMA world with a ton of accumulated knowledge, and competing in a currently weak division.

This is a division where a guy like Lewis or Tuivasa can be contenders. Pavlovich is in a very good standing.

This. Sergei is a better striker than Lewis or Tai IMO. And they've both done well in the past. Sergei is a very dangerous fight for any fighter in the HW division. I'm excited to see what he can do. Plus he's fairly young by HW standards so it's good to see some new blood there. Don't need more rematches and round robins between Lewis, Blades, Tai, Rozenstruik, Stipe, etc..

 

[DatSamboKid]

He currently owns the record for most consecutive first round knockouts, he’s definitely something special.

 

[MMonk]

Nobody in US cares about Greco. It's C tier wrestling

What a load of bull... yet you proudly posted a 1 time controversial win of US fighter against Karelyn..
and sheepishly didn't mentioned how he dominated other US fighters...

Typical Murican double standards...

 

[IMPmmath]

Now that Jones is at HW after a 3yr wait,of course I want him to fight the top 3 or 4 contenders in the division. That's what makes the sport exciting. Fighting Miocic who in his last fight got folded by Ngannou years ago feels more like an old timers game.