Rumored Francis Ngannou Might Put MMA on Hold for Another Boxing Match

[markg171]

Because of that Saudi money you helmet, also how Dana's pee pee taste?

You're legit brain dead if you think Ngannou is getting another main event.

 

[ineverpost]

They don't have to pay him as long as he isn't fighting for them, right? No wonder PFL was willing to sign an 8 million dollar contract or whatever and then let him box. They get free exposure with no downside.

This is exactly it. He might even be allowed to fight for other promotions too, I'm not sure but wouldn't be surprised. It's in Francis' best interest to fight for them at some point because they made him an equity partner in PFL Africa.

 

[dipstickjimmy]

They share one common opponent and nothing from it suggests that ngannou is better than jones. Meanwhile, jones can swim in his pile of belts like Scrooge mcduck.

Only one ran away from the ufc to get paid to take naps, and it isn’t bones.

Ran away??? Why take a shitty offer when there is something better? Jon hid (presumably under an Octagon somewhere) from HW until Francis left the UFC because they wouldn't pay him right and wouldn't let him box like they did with McGregor. Why would Francis not take that huge payday? Jon was trying to get a fight with Tyson himself.

Also quick question. Does Jon swim in that pile of belts in an Olympic Sized pool to dilute the PEDs?

 

[markg171]

It is (supposedly) going to put him back in the winning column and should be the easier way to get paid.

Why would Wilder want Ngannou when he could instead try and fight Joshua, Zhang, or rematch Parker? Why would any of them take Ngannou when they could likewise do the same and advance in the division instead of fighting backwards against Ngannou?

Joshua took Francis because he surprisingly did well against Fury, was therefore ranked, and most importantly put him in a good position to try and fight the Fury/Usyk winner. None of that is at play any more for anybody else now that Francis got absolutely embarrassed.

 

[dipstickjimmy]

Conor was a 2 division champion and didn’t fight in a weak division against old washed fighters like Francis. Francis also won his only title defense by a robbery decision.

Conor was competitive with arguably the best boxer of all time and he was never knocked out, it was a TKO from Conor being too gassed to defend himself. Francis fought 2 heavyweights which heavyweight isn’t as skilled and he was brutally knocked out in 2 rounds and knocked down twice before.

Conor was gifted a LW fight in a good style match up after having Dana pave his way to a title at FW. Winning a single fight at LW =/= a champion. The fact he never defended anything should tell you something but you clearly want to delude yourself.

 

[dipstickjimmy]

You know you can dismiss Jones' accomplishments without burying Ciryl as "some guy picking out of a hat". The guy is a legit HW and if he really was a bum, he would have had far more than 2L's.

Not saying Cyril is a bum. He certainly is the perfect style match up for Jon however. This doesn't apply to Jon alone. When a title is vacated and the UFC picks two guys to fight for the title it often makes for a very questionable lineage. Charles fighting Chandler for the LW title didn't prove Charles was truly the best at the time. Neither guy was a previous champion and Mike had one win in the UFC. His Bellator title resume shows that. He lost to a FW/BW by KO and got the UFC title shot off wins over Outlaw, Bendo & Hooker. It wasn't until Charles beat Dustin & Justin that his Title Lineage was validated.

Rock looks great when put in a title fight against Scissors. An MMA fighter beating a variety of styles and opponents at their peak (#1 contenders typically) is what truly makes a champion. Aspinall's HW title is more legit then Jon's especially if he defends it against Blaydes. Once that happens Jon's title becomes the Legacy belt.

 

[nostradumbass]

Yeah I was kind of trolling back the post I was responding to. The post seemed specifically aimed at discrediting Francis but with nonsense. Conor more accomplished then Francis? Silly.

Also at HW Jon is not more accomplished then Frank. Frank beat the man to win the title. Frank beat a ton of HWs to EARN his title shot and then title. Jon was parachuted into a title fight but beat a hand picked guy who was a perfect style match up & was never a champion. Why didn't the most recent champion Stipe Miocic fight Jon? Because 1) the UFC didn't want to pay him and 2) Jon and the UFC wanted an easy fight to crown Jon a champion.

Jon's UFC title Lineage is worthless IMO.

You can't simultaneously pump up Francis beating Gane by narrow decision, then discredit Jon for beating the same guy in 2 minutes.

The post was who's more decorated, and you don't wipe out a guy's entire career and start from scratch because he moved up. I mean you can, but then Francis is less than worthless in boxing because he was 0-0 when first fought, and is now 0-2.

 

[ipowerslapmywife]

Conor was gifted a LW fight in a good style match up after having Dana pave his way to a title at FW. Winning a single fight at LW =/= a champion. The fact he never defended anything should tell you something but you clearly want to delude yourself.

Yeah because every fighter can beat the champion……stop it, Francis won the belt by beating an old washed Stipe while Conor knocked out a 10 year defending champion in Aldo and a prime Alvarez.

Francis only defended once and arguably lost. No one gives a shit about one title defense in a weak division. Quality wins are what matters, not simply defending a belt

 

[Jesus X]

Wilder is the only fight that makes sense. They are both coming off losses and have well matching styles.

Maybe Ruiz, out of shape, can be somewhat competitive too.

Lol ruiz would absolutely wreck ngannou he doesn't crumble under power he has a great chin he went toe to toe with joshua twice he might be even faster than joshua too so that would be a problem for ngannou.


ruiz is also in great shape right now he is jacked.

ruiz also like use a similar punch to the one ngannou got ko'd with.

Wilder might be the better fight because he has a weaker chin and ngannou could ko him.

 

[J'Ghasta]

Ngannou vs Wilder would still be a huge fight that I'd love to see. I hope that's next. Still way better than any matchup for him in MMA aside from Jon Jones which isn't happening.

 

[djacobox372]

Good move for him... if he goes back to MMA now and loses, it's over for him.

 

[BEATDOWNS]

Francis N'Gonenow is a bust

 

[Oldman1]

I'd like to see him against Otto Wallin

 

[JKS]

Ran away??? Why take a shitty offer when there is something better? Jon hid (presumably under an Octagon somewhere) from HW until Francis left the UFC because they wouldn't pay him right and wouldn't let him box like they did with McGregor. Why would Francis not take that huge payday? Jon was trying to get a fight with Tyson himself.

Also quick question. Does Jon swim in that pile of belts in an Olympic Sized pool to dilute the PEDs?

Well, to be fair, Francis was offered very respectable money from the UFC and his offer was very good. He even said that the money was great, but it wasn't just about that. Francis exact words we're they just threw a pile of money at him and said shut up lol. He was offered 8 million a fight and that is very good. Furthermore, Francis declined the UFC's offers the year prior cause he wanted to ride his contract out, he said he lost about 7 million by not signing a new deal. So they certainly were going to pay him right.

The issue was the the UFC deal was just too risky. If he lost vs Jones, his pay goes down big time. As it should, I mean why would the UFC pay Francis 8 mill or more a fight when he's not even champ. The other option was just less risky and just as lucrative. He had the option of boxing and mma, so money wise it worked out very well for him and he made the right call based on how it all worked out.

The other part was they wouldn't let him box, which shouldn't be a knock on the UFC. It's not in their best interest to let him box, they have zero oblgatinon to do that. Conor much like with most things, is the exception. That was just a one in a lifetime opportunity for the UFC vs Floyd.

 

[Senzo Tanaka]

I figured it was going to be hard for him to go into and leave boxing at 0-2. If he insists, just give him a can to crush to get his confidence back. If they give him anyone ranked, he needs new management.

 

[Neck&Neck]

Frank is the King of Zamunda !!
Show some damn Hespect

#PFL_AfricaTakeoverAfterBoxing

 

[The Bloody Nine]

I figured it was going to be hard for him to go into and leave boxing at 0-2. If he insists, just give him a can to crush to get his confidence back. If they give him anyone ranked, he needs new management.

The problem there is that no one is going to pay to watch Francis fight a can. There's no money in it. And all he cares about is money.

 

[dipstickjimmy]

You can't simultaneously pump up Francis beating Gane by narrow decision, then discredit Jon for beating the same guy in 2 minutes.

The post was who's more decorated, and you don't wipe out a guy's entire career and start from scratch because he moved up. I mean you can, but then Francis is less than worthless in boxing because he was 0-0 when first fought, and is now 0-2.

Francis as a HW is far more accomplished then Jon. He didn't just beat Cyril and that's all, that's Jon. As a HW Jon has 1 victory and it wasn't a UFC champion or even a former champion that he beat, yet he is called Undisputed Champion??? He isn't even defending against the Interim Champion.

Cyrisl is a perfect style match up for Jon and his only win. Frank beat him with an injured knee. Francis had a harder time with him but MMAth doesn't necessarily tell the story of how a fight between two fighters will go. You should know that.

Jon doesn't get easy TDs against Francis. He doesn't get to walk thru his punches with no fear of a KO like he could against Cyril. He doesn't sub Francis easily and simply like he did against Cyril.

 

[dipstickjimmy]

Yeah because every fighter can beat the champion……stop it, Francis won the belt by beating an old washed Stipe while Conor knocked out a 10 year defending champion in Aldo and a prime Alvarez.

Francis only defended once and arguably lost. No one gives a shit about one title defense in a weak division. Quality wins are what matters, not simply defending a belt

You can call the GOAT UFC HW champion washed all you want. Still better then any of Conor's defenses.

 

[dipstickjimmy]

Well, to be fair, Francis was offered very respectable money from the UFC and his offer was very good. He even said that the money was great, but it wasn't just about that. Francis exact words we're they just threw a pile of money at him and said shut up lol. He was offered 8 million a fight and that is very good. Furthermore, Francis declined the UFC's offers the year prior cause he wanted to ride his contract out, he said he lost about 7 million by not signing a new deal. So they certainly were going to pay him right.

The issue was the the UFC deal was just too risky. If he lost vs Jones, his pay goes down big time. As it should, I mean why would the UFC pay Francis 8 mill or more a fight when he's not even champ. The other option was just less risky and just as lucrative. He had the option of boxing and mma, so money wise it worked out very well for him and he made the right call based on how it all worked out.

The other part was they wouldn't let him box, which shouldn't be a knock on the UFC. It's not in their best interest to let him box, they have zero oblgatinon to do that. Conor much like with most things, is the exception. That was just a one in a lifetime opportunity for the UFC vs Floyd.

Could have been a twice in a lifetime with Francis vs Fury. Francis did better against Fury than Conor against Floyd in the ring. Remember that the UFC promoted the living crap out of the May/Mac fight and if they had done the same with Fury vs Francis it could have been just as successful.