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BY GIOVANNA DELL’ORTO
Updated 2:51 PM BRT, April 10, 2024

COMITANCILLO, Guatemala (AP) — Every night for nearly two years, Glendy Aracely Ramírez has prayed by the altar in her parents’ mud-brick bedroom where, under a large crucifix, is a picture of her sister Blanca. The 23-year-old died alongside 50 other migrants in a smuggler’s tractor-trailer in Texas.

“I ask God for my family’s health and that I might get to the United States one day. My mom asks God that she won’t have to see another accident,” said Glendy, 17, who has already packed a small backpack for her own journey from the family’s home 8,900 feet (2,700 meters) up in Guatemala’s highlands.

Her “coyote” postponed it for a few days because of a flare-up in violence among Mexican drug cartels that control migrants’ routes to the United States, but she is undeterred.

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Glendy Aracely Ramirez shows a jacket she bought for her planned migration to the U.S. in her Loma Linda hamlet of Comitancillo, Guatemala, Monday, March 18, 2024. (AP Photo/Moises Castillo)

Tens of thousands of youths from this region would rather take deadly risks — even repeatedly — than stay behind where they see no future. Blanca’s fatal journey was her third attempt to reach the U.S.

“I want to go there, because here there are no opportunities, even though Mom says that I’ll suffer what Blanca did,” Glendy said as she sat with her mother, Filomena Crisóstomo, in their tidy dirt-floor courtyard. “I’d like to have a house, help my family and get ahead.”

The record-high numbers of migrants illegally crossing the U.S.-Mexico border have made migration a top concern in this U.S. presidential election year. Among those migrants, the largest group of unaccompanied minors has been from Guatemala — nearly 50,000 of the 137,000 encounters recorded by border authorities in the last fiscal year.

Most come from tiny hamlets in the predominantly Indigenous Western Highlands. Daily wages top out around the equivalent of $9, far below the supposed legal minimum. In tiny plots of brittle clay soil — often the only collateral for loans to pay smugglers’ fees that can reach $20,000 — many families grow corn and beans to eat.

Little else sprouts from the steep mountainsides except for the exuberantly decorated, multi-story concrete homes built with remittances from loved ones in the United States — constant reminders of what’s possible if only one makes it “to the north.”

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A home built with migrant remittances stands in the Loma Linda hamlet of Comitancillo, Guatemala, Monday, March 18, 2024. (AP Photo/Moises Castillo)


In the small town of Comitancillo, two murals serve as a different reminder — they’re memorials to the nearly two dozen local migrants who died in recent mass tragedies. They either asphyxiated in the trailer in San Antonio, Texas, in June 2022, or were shot and set afire by rogue police officers in Camargo, Mexico, in January 2021.

It took less than a week after the remains from the Camargo massacre were returned to Comitancillo for burial before the first surviving family member left for the U.S.

And with a 17-year-old boy who made it to Florida this winter, now at least one relative has migrated from nearly all of the families since the massacre, said the Rev. José Luis González, a priest with the Jesuit Migration Network. The lone exception was an older man whose family was already north of the border; he died trying to make it back after being deported, González said.


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A list of young migrants who died asphyxiated in 2022 in a smuggler’s trailer truck in San Antonio, Texas, covers a wall in their hometown of Comitancillo, Guatemala, Tuesday, March 19, 2024. Tens of thousands of youth from this region would rather take deadly risks, even repeatedly, than stay behind where they see no future. (AP Photo/Moises Castillo)

“It’s an evident sign that the fear to stay is bigger than the fear to go,” said González, who started ministering to the affected families when they traveled some six hours to Guatemala’s capital for DNA tests to identify the remains.

Many families credit the Jesuit group for being the only institution that has stayed by their side, regularly traveling to Comitancillo to provide legal updates — nearly a dozen police officers were sentenced last fall in the Camargo case — as well psychological, humanitarian and pastoral assistance.

On a recent morning, about 50 relatives of those lost either in Camargo or San Antonio gathered for a meeting with the Jesuit group that included workshops to process depression and grief. Most were women and children speaking Mam, one of Guatemala’s two dozen Mayan languages.

One of the handful of fathers at the meeting was Virgilio Ambrocio. The eldest of his eight children, Celestina Carolina, was making less than $90 a month as a housekeeper in Guatemala City and sending half of that back home to help feed her siblings. So she decided to try her luck in the United States, and died at 23 in the trailer.

“The hardest part is, who’s going to help us now,” Ambrocio said as dust swirled around his home. His wife, Olivia Orozco, wept silently, while holding a framed photo of a smiling Celestina.

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Indigenous women attend a support group during an event organized by the Jesuit Migrant Network that provides support to the relatives of migrants who died trying to reach the U.S. in Comitancillo, Guatemala, Monday, March 18, 2024. Many families credit the Jesuit group for being the only institution that has stayed by their side, regularly traveling to Comitancillo to provide legal updates as well as psychological, humanitarian, and pastoral assistance. (AP Photo/Moises Castillo)

The primary driver of migration over the past 10 years is the inability to get jobs to pay for the most basic necessities, said Ursula Roldán, a researcher at Rafael Landívar University in Guatemala City. That’s exacerbated by the debts families incur to pay the smugglers, which would take 10 years’ worth of in-country wages to repay — making it crucial to get to the U.S. and send back remittances from far higher wages.

Rising violence in the Mexican regions bordering Guatemala is also pushing more migrants to head to the U.S. instead of working seasonal agricultural jobs there. Climate change is affecting even subsistence farming.

In their one-room home near Comitancillo, Reina Coronado tried to convince the eight children she had since she married at 16 that they didn’t have to risk their lives.
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A portrait of Aracely Marroquín Coronado, who died in 2022 alongside 50 other migrants, asphyxiated in a smuggler’s trailer truck in San Antonio, Texas, hangs inside a relatives’ home in Comitancillo, Guatemala, Tuesday, March 19, 2024. (AP Photo/Moises Castillo)

Some went north anyway, including Aracely Florentina Marroquín, 21, who had completed high school like Blanca and, like her, felt she had wasted her family’s money in studying since she still couldn’t get a professional job.

The last thing she told Coronado was that she’d go only for four years and send money to build a kitchen, so she wouldn’t have to cook tortillas over an open fire. Next came the call from Texas that made Coronado cry for months. Today, she finds some comfort caring for two young daughters still living with her and the animals she raises.

“Even though it’s a struggle, one has to fight, to try to keep going,” Coronado said. “I go to work and that way the day, and the hard moments, pass. Sometimes I do it crying, but I trust in our Father, the Lord.”

Marcelina Tomás has also been praying for strength since her oldest son, Anderson Pablo, was murdered in Camargo — and especially in recent months since his younger brother Emerson, 17, also went to the U.S.

Anderson was in 9th grade when the pandemic hit and he started working in the fields alongside his father. Their wages of around $6 a day were enough to afford tortillas each day for the family of 11, but not something to go with them, Tomás said. So she and her husband agreed to help Anderson get loans for the $16,000 smuggling fee.

Twelve days after Anderson, 16, left their home near Comitancillo, news of the Camargo massacre arrived via social media. Pregnant with her tenth child, Tomás, 37, had to leave her children with family members and spend a night away from home for the first time to undergo DNA tests in the capital that allowed Anderson’s partial remains to be identified and buried.

“Only God knows what happened. And all for wanting to get ahead,” Tomás said. “I relied on him, and he treated his little siblings so well.”

Anderson had dissuaded Emerson from going along, saying he should stay in school a bit longer. According to Tomás, Emerson was heartbroken after his brother’s death; he enrolled in high school, but soon quit to work in a potato field.



Around the third anniversary of Anderson’s death, Emerson said he wanted to migrate, because many other youths had gone too. Tomás reminded him of Anderson’s fate, the tragedy in San Antonio, the neighbors’ children who died in the border deserts or in work accidents in the U.S.

“‘No,’ he told me, ‘I’m going.’ And he went,” Tomás said by the altar where three pictures of Anderson stand by a crucifix, with a lit candle and a vase of calla lilies.

Anderson’s dream was to earn enough to move the family from their one-room, mud-brick house to a concrete one with separate spaces for his parents, his brothers and his sisters. They live in such a house now, built with donations received after his death.

But nobody sleeps in the room with the altar. They’re keeping it as Anderson’s room.

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Children run past a mural memorializing 19 locals who were shot and burned in Camargo, Mexico, as they attempted to migrate to the U.S., in Comitancillo, Guatemala, Tuesday, March 19, 2024. (AP Photo/Moises Castillo)


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Stay home. I don't see how or why people think it's a good idea that these people come here. I do feel sympathy for their plight, but this makes the US worse, not better. They're going to be a drain on resources and the kids they have here are going to impact elections
 
I don't have the answer on the migrant issue but I do know that people where I live are not hungry to work. There are tons of service jobs open all over the community and no applicants. Many businesses are reducing hours and/or operating at shorter than desired staff ratios,

The economy where I live would greatly benefit from a bunch of people who wanted these kinds of jobs and would work hard.
 
They send it home. I don't want to pay for it.

We can barely service American debt.
-I understand the sentiment. But a politican that opens a account in a fiscal paradise, makes a bigger dent on the economy.

The people in question will have to live in america, so the vast marjority of the money comes back.
 
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Said shit.

The US is reaping what it sowed for decades.
The whole Latin America had been suffering, because the CIA wanted to control the region. All the revolutions, all the coup de etats, drug trafficking, etc.
This.

The real solution to the problem is to make a fucking effort to reverse the damage we've done in Central and South America. Some chick with a dirt floor should be able to make enough money to build a kitchen without having to sneak into America to do it. That she can't see a way to that outcome in her own country is a huge blinking light about why people keep trying to sneak in.
 
This.

The real solution to the problem is to make a fucking effort to reverse the damage we've done in Central and South America. Some chick with a dirt floor should be able to make enough money to build a kitchen without having to sneak into America to do it. That she can't see a way to that outcome in her own country is a huge blinking light about why people keep trying to sneak in.

How exactly? Latin America is corrupt as fuck.

Access to capital has never been an issue, the issue is poor governance and that can't be forced into another country without intervention.
 
I don't have the answer on the migrant issue but I do know that people where I live are not hungry to work. There are tons of service jobs open all over the community and no applicants. Many businesses are reducing hours and/or operating at shorter than desired staff ratios,

The economy where I live would greatly benefit from a bunch of people who wanted these kinds of jobs and would work hard.

You mean slaves?
 
How exactly? Latin America is corrupt as fuck.

Access to capital has never been an issue, the issue is poor governance and that can't be forced into another country without intervention.
The issue with governance is partially driven by our constant intervention into their politics, from destabilization to outright regime change. The legacy of the Monroe Doctrine and, later, the attempt to prevent the rise of left-leaning political leaders (marxists and communists, lol).

Just take Panama for example. My abuelo used to say that nothing happened in Panama without the US knowing and okaying it. Their interest in the Canal was paramount (he was an engineer there for most of his life, even had some engineering innovations that they incorporated). The very existence of Panama is the byproduct of the U.S. intervention with Colombia. But that U.S. intervention meant backing a bunch of corrupt leaders and drug dealers if those people were better aligned with US interests over potentially less corrupt leaders who would oppose US interests or align themselves with European interests.
 
The issue with governance is partially driven by our constant intervention into their politics, from destabilization to outright regime change. The legacy of the Monroe Doctrine and, later, the attempt to prevent the rise of left-leaning political leaders (marxists and communists, lol).

Im not saying the US has not had a hand in the woes of Guatemala, im asking what can be done moving forward that won't be seen as blatant interventionism.
 
It's really sad how so many people live in terrible conditions and are desperate to live a better life.
They should stay and make their own country better running away doesn't solve their countries problems.

If 3 generations of my family had stayed in Mexico, mexico would be a far better country today.

it was crippled by folks running to the U.S for 100 years.
 
The people in question will have to live in america, so the vast marjority of the money comes back.

Exactly. A few will send some back but they're also buying cars, clothes, food, furniture, electronic devices, property, etc., in the US.

In big cities like Houston, the main streets in immigrant neighborhoods look like this

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Just full of commercial activity. Yeah, it looks ugly, and yeah, some are a little rundown (they are immigrants, after all) but there is definitely a lot money being moved around.

Hilarious that the same side that's in love with small businesses is also hysterical about the "immigrant invasion!"

Immigrant neighborhoods are absolutely teeming with small, mom-and-pop businesses.
 
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