The Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors voted this week to eliminate all references to Columbus Day as a county holiday, designating Oct. 12 as Italian American Heritage Day and creating a new Indigenous Peoples Day.
O’Farrell, who is a member of the Wyandotte Native American Tribe, led the drive on the City Council to replace Columbus Day and successfully argued that the explorer’s connection to brutality and slavery makes him unworthy of celebration.
What did Columbus ever legitimately do for the United States?
His "discovery" of America didn't land him on the continental US. His real name isn't even Christopher Columbus, It'd be like saying Leonardo Di Vinci as Leonard of Vinci
Who gives a shit about Columbus day. Has nothing to do with America. A day to celebrate and commerate the native people's seems better than Columbus day, if you're gonna do a day at all.
To be fair to all races of any generation we should tear down all statues, monuments or public icons honoring any individual or action. We should also rename all current streets and buildings named after people. We should rename any holiday or festival that honors a person or group. Sanitize it ALL because someone somewhere is very likely offended by it regardless of what it is.
Fuck all this pussy footing about. Just wipe it all clean, generically name what remains. If they can't be happy or proud, you can't be happy or proud. If they can't honor a person, place or thing than you can't honor a person, place or thing.
Yep Leif Erikson landed in what he called Vinland which is now the province of Newfoundland in Canada in 1000 AD. Stayed there for a few years and then left. Wrote that the natives were hostile to him and his crew. Unlike Columbus from all I've read he did not slaughter and massacre the native population
Yep Leif Erikson landed in what he called Vinland which is now the province of Newfoundland in Canada in 1000 AD. Stayed there for a few years and then left. Wrote that the natives were hostile to him and his crew. Unlike Columbus from all I've read he did not slaughter and massacre the native population
They killed some natives while they were there. But they were greatly outnumbered. They were able to secure some peace through trading but eventually kept getting attacked and thought the colony wasn't worth it.
Firstly, just tossing off some commentary here without having done any in depth reading on Columbus either defending or condemning him or the day created in his honor.
Who the heck celebrates Columbus day anyway? Well, for one, Italian Americans do--not, to wit, native Italians themselves (although he is highly regarded among them)--but among Italian Americans, the Genoese explorer Cristoforo Colombo is a pretty big deal. And if you are going to trash him, you should probably ensure that you are not in ear-shot of anyone of Italian descent (especially if they are over 40). From the little that I have heard/read--(I purposely haven't even wikied this yet, although I will after writing this)--, Columbus Day was created as a concession to Roman Catholic immigrants so they could have their own particular American holiday.
The reason I haven't read up on this yet is because I wanted to convey something of what I think your average American joe might think about Columbus Day, pre-indoctrination.
Again, who actually celebrates Columbus Day? I dare say if you placed your finger randomly on the map and went to that place and interviewed people walking on the street, practically none of them could tell you the date on which Columbus Day falls, much less that they have ever done anything by way of formal observation of it.
I am continually being reminded from leftist quarters of what an arse-heel Columbus was and that Columbus Day should be officially nixed altogether. Fine. By. Me. Take it up with the New York diocese. Me and my Protestant peoples couldn't give a hoot one way or the other. And if they say they do, I think that to some degree they might be disingenuously glomming onto an issue just to push back against the left, a tactical exercise that I don't always consider profitless, but in this case, I have to wonder.
Here is an amusing clip from Sopranos. One of the things I liked about the Sopranos, Hollywood mobster tropes aside, is the numerous scenes conveying something of the everyday life and culture of Italian Americans in general. I'm not saying that it wasn't at times 'caricaturized' but there were numerous really powerful scenes accurately dramatizing Italian American culture that had nothing to do with the mafia.
By the way I think Howard Zinn's People's History is one of the vilest pieces of propaganda to ever slink off the rolls of a book press.
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