Trump signs order to eliminate ACA insurance rules, undermine marketplaces

More like he would tell congress to find a cure and when they could not he would endorse Homeopathy as a solution.

"I am going to cure cancer on day one of my Presidency. We will have the best cures. "
 
As if there is any difference between the three.

You find mainstream health policy specialists in public health departments at big universities, and they are certainly not all on the side of the insurance industry. I agree though that the gap between the insurance industry's lobbyists and a lot of politicians doesn't allow much daylight through.
 
Here's something I don't really understand about Obamacare. The elderly have Medicare, children have medicaid, I'm not sure if people with disabilities are eligible for those programs, or if there is a special program for them.

But given that those groups were already covered, who was Obamacare for, non-disabled working age adults?

This is obviously an inflammatory topic, but it's a serious question, who are the millions who didn't have health insurance previously who now get it paid for, just non-disabled working age adults?

Severely disabled and destitute people who qualify for SSI get some form of medicaid, and if there is some type of illness or injury after someone has been working and paying enough into social security, it is possible to qualify for SSDI and get on Medicaid, but that system is very difficult to get into for disabled people, as it is only for people who are unable to do any type of job, even part time.

So, people who are well enough to do some work, but didn't get insurance through their jobs, and couldn't afford pre ACA premiums (and of course a lot of people who had any type of history of medical problems would have been rejected by insurance companies anyways, which of course would include disabled folks) have been able to get great health insurance in the states where the ACA is working. Unfortunately, Obama didn't hold the line with the public option, which would have been a solution for all of the folks who are hurting in the states where the ACA isn't working and/or where the GOP has done its best to stop the ACA from working.
 
im 28 with no pre existing conditions and my health insurance has become $250 a month

remember when obama said it would cost less than a cell phone plan?

i guess i should stop buying the 4 iphones a year this health insurance costs
Ridiculous. Universal health care is the way to go
 
Trump Is intentionally raising premiums and kicking people of their premiums just so he can say the aca Isnt working peoples premiums are going up and they are getting kicked off their insurance
 
hawaii imploding as of 2015: http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/242268-hawaiis-obamacare-exchange-in-jeopardy

health care as a percentage of GDP: https://www.mercatus.org/publication/us-health-care-spending-more-twice-average-developed-countries
much lower prices in the past, even if bad compared to the rest of the world.

Hawaii is not representative of all healthcare markets, by any means, let alone of the whole of the US.

Your second link I'm not sure if it's as definitive as you think. The only stable thing about it is as a % of GDP. As GDP rises as much as healthcare costs do, that line will remain static - but healthcare costs are still rising.

When you think about it, people are living longer, more advanced diagnosis and treatments are available, more people in the country - healthcare costs will always rise. It's inevitable. All you can really do is make HC delivery cheaper and more efficient.

The best way of doing that is UHC/SP. But Obamacare seems to be a lot better than what it replaced.
 
But the government rewrote what a 'standard healthcare plan' under their rules had to coverage which changed already existing plans which didn't mean government standards

LOL this was really supposed to be a sentence?! The edit button is there for a reason TheStruggleToPostCoherently.

I didn't, I just pointed how EOs were ok going against the constitution when Obama did it *cough* DACA *cough*

"I didn't, I just did."

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Post more struggy. It's a funnier place when you do.

im 28 with no pre existing conditions and my health insurance has become $250 a month

remember when obama said it would cost less than a cell phone plan?

i guess i should stop buying the 4 iphones a year this health insurance costs

Bullshit. Your existence here is an unintelligent shitpile of teenage buzzwords. 17 tops and I doubt your mom can afford any insurance.
 
Hawaii is not representative of all healthcare markets, by any means, let alone of the whole of the US.

Your second link I'm not sure if it's as definitive as you think. The only stable thing about it is as a % of GDP. As GDP rises as much as healthcare costs do, that line will remain static - but healthcare costs are still rising.

When you think about it, people are living longer, more advanced diagnosis and treatments are available, more people in the country - healthcare costs will always rise. It's inevitable. All you can really do is make HC delivery cheaper and more efficient.

The best way of doing that is UHC/SP. But Obamacare seems to be a lot better than what it replaced.
I'm not saying Hawaii was representative, however, obamacare is federal, if it fails in one state, it'll likely fail in others, and that's exactly what happened. Lets not pretend that Trump was the reason for the failure, that's purely revisionist. Trump and crew definitely want to expedite the failure so they can replace it.

as for the natural rise of expenditure, Obamacare didnt lower it, so it fails, case closed. You can argue this or that makes little difference.
 
The mandate was more then that. The mandate was/is needed to compel younger, healthier people to buy insurance to spread the overall costs out. Which is how insurance works in the first place.

And how do people defend this?
 
He's talking regularly with Rand Paul on this, and Rand is a repeal only guy. So basically Trump is sabotaging the ACA which is the same as a flat repeal.
 
Good.

Obamacare nearly lead to the ruin of my family.

My excellent insurance plan was canceled for not being "Affordable Care Act compliant". This happened right as my daughter fell very ill.

Real people have been hurt by Obamacare, and the ONLY person to do anything about it is President Trump!

I hope your daughter's illness passed quickly and that she fully recovered.

If it had been a chronic illness, Under the old rules your daughter would have to be a slave to the corporations the rest of her life for her to have insurance (through work). She would never have been able to buy insurance independently.

I know people who found themselves in that boat and ACA saved their lives.
 
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