How come Carson Wentz, and Jimmy Garappolo did not attend big time FB schools

QB position is a crapshoot. Success in college doesn't necessarily means success in the pros. Look what happened to RG3 and Kaepernick. Both were excellent early in their career then flamed out. @MadSquabbles500 @therealdope
 
A lot of time these big time schools factor the quarterback's size as well. I can only speak on Garappolo. He was skipped on by a few big time FB schools because he's slightly undersized for a QB.

He is 6'2".
 
SDSU was one of the only schools to offer him a chance at RB. Nebraska wanted him on defense.

Can you imagine how many titles Nebraska would have had with Faulk on the Nebraska '91-'94?

Didnt UNeb win natl champ during those years inspite?
 
He is 6'2".
That's what I thought too, but the average height amongst QB in the nfl is 6"4. A lot of pros that used to play say that it helps see over your linemen and have overall better field vision. That's why guys like Drew Brees and Russel Wilson are so unique
 
That's what I thought too, but the average height amongst QB in the nfl is 6"4. A lot of pros that used to play say that it helps see over your linemen and have overall better field vision. That's why guys like Drew Brees and Russel Wilson are so unique

A lot of starting O-Line are like 6'5" plus. I only think there are just a handful of QBs taller than 6'4". Flacco, Osweiler, Foles, Wentz, and a lot of heights are slightly embellished. A lot of D-Line guys are taller too than most QBs.
 
A lot of starting O-Line are like 6'5" plus. I only think there are just a handful of QBs taller than 6'4". Flacco, Osweiler, Foles, Wentz, and a lot of heights are slightly embellished. A lot of D-Line guys are taller too than most QBs.
I'm just basing it off what I've read and watched I'm no expert. I can definitely see the advantage of being taller though, I definitely agree it doesn't translate to talent.
 
Jimmy G. didn't go to a high school football powerhouse by any means. He went to the same college as Romo who grew up under similar circumstances. He's lucky he was drafted as high as he was, unlike Romo who was undrafted. Apparently coach Belichick saw some Brady-like qualities he had, even coming out of a small school.
 
I don't really follow college FB and don't at all follow HS sports, so I really couldn't tell you.

How many of the top QB's in the NFL were considered top prospects coming out of HS? I'm genuinely curious.
 
Jimmy G. didn't go to a high school football powerhouse by any means. He went to the same college as Romo who grew up under similar circumstances. He's lucky he was drafted as high as he was, unlike Romo who was undrafted. Apparently coach Belichick saw some Brady-like qualities he had, even coming out of a small school.


 
I don't really follow college FB and don't at all follow HS sports, so I really couldn't tell you.

How many of the top QB's in the NFL were considered top prospects coming out of HS? I'm genuinely curious.

Quite a bit actually. Even Brees Brady, Wilson were recruited by D1A schools, even if pro scouts did not think much of them. All except Wentz, Flacco, Garoppolo, went to D1A schools. Rodgers was overlooked, but he made his way to Cal, and pro scouts loved him.
 
A lot of big time programs don't run a pro style offense. Plus, it happens. Steve McNair went to Alcorn State, Flacco went to Delaware, Favre went to Southern Miss (an FBS program but still not big time), Big Ben at Miami of Ohio, Romo went to Eastern Illinois, etc.
 
How many of the top QB's in the NFL were considered top prospects coming out of HS? I'm genuinely curious.
Alex Smith: 2* #39 Dual Threat https://247sports.com/Season/2002-F...ngs?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=DUAL
Bortles: 3* #33 Pro Style https://247sports.com/Season/2010-F...ings?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=PRO
Cam: 5* #2 Dual Threat https://247sports.com/Season/2007-F...ngs?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=DUAL
Carr: 4* #16 Pro Style https://247sports.com/Season/2009-F...ings?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=PRO
Cousins: 3* #49 Pro Style https://247sports.com/Season/2008-F...ings?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=PRO
Dak: 4* #20 Dual Threat https://247sports.com/Season/2011-F...ngs?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=DUAL
Dalton: 3* #29 Pro Style https://247sports.com/Season/2006-F...ings?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=PRO
Flacco: 3* #39 Pro Style https://n.rivals.com/position_rankings/football/2003/PRO
Gabbert: 4* #2 Pro Style https://247sports.com/Season/2007-F...ngs?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=DUAL
Garoppolo: 2* #67 Pro Style https://247sports.com/Season/2010-F...ings?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=PRO
Goff: 4* #15 Pro Style https://247sports.com/Season/2013-F...ings?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=PRO
Keenum: 2* #50 Dual Threat https://247sports.com/Season/2006-F...ngs?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=DUAL
Kizer: 4* #14 Pro Style https://247sports.com/Season/2014-F...ings?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=PRO
Luck: 4* #3 Pro Style https://247sports.com/Season/2008-F...ings?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=PRO
Mariota: 4* #18 Dual Threat https://247sports.com/Season/2011-F...ngs?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=DUAL
Ryan: 3* #40 Pro Style https://247sports.com/Season/2003-F...ings?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=PRO
Stafford: 5* #1 Pro Style https://247sports.com/Season/2006-F...ings?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=PRO
Tannehill: 3* #19 Dual Threat https://247sports.com/Season/2007-F...ngs?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=DUAL
Trubiski: 4* #6 Dual Threat https://247sports.com/Season/2013-F...ngs?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=DUAL
Tyrod Taylor: 5* #1 Dual Threat https://247sports.com/Season/2007-F...ngs?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=DUAL
Watson: 4* #1 Dual Threat https://247sports.com/Season/2014-F...ngs?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=DUAL
Wilson: 3* #25 Dual Threat https://247sports.com/Season/2007-F...ngs?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=DUAL
Winston: 5* #1 Duel Threat https://247sports.com/Season/2012-F...ngs?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=DUAL

I couldn't find anything on Big Ben, Brady, Brees, Eli, McCown, Rivers, Rodgers (pre-JuCo) and Wentz.
Nothing for Denver either since no one gives a fuck about any of their QBs.
 

Shocking.

Re: Brady.

He sent out tapes of his highlights. A michigan assistant showed it top Gary Moeller and he thought he "looked like he could play QB".

“Probably the ones that we did hear from and ultimately pared the list to were Cal-Berkeley, UCLA, USC, Michigan and Illinois,” Brady Sr. said. “Those were the final five schools Tommy was considering. If athletics didn’t work out, he’d be proud to have a degree from a great academic school. Those were five pretty darn good schools, so he had a pretty good list there.”

Tom Brady was an unrated recruit at a time when few recruits were rated on a national level, but he was thought of well enough to earn a scholarship offer from Michigan, which was contending for Big Ten titles on an annual basis. If the star system was around in 1995 when Brady graduated from high school, he would have likely been rated as a four- or five-star recruit.

On the topic of HS recruiting, this is interesting:

https://www.cheatsheet.com/sports/s...gh-school-recruiting-rankings-are-a-joke.html
 
Nobody had any clue Jimmy would be this good.
 
Being blackballed for standing up to social injustices is not "flaming out."
Dude, we traded up, and our new, capable quarterback doesn't have a circus strapped to his back.

#dealwithit
 
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