DC is greater than JJ, the true LHW goat, and It's not even close

DC felt like a loser because he competed with Jones and lost. He cannot claim he won, and he's a professional competitor so he owns that. I agree, that's a credit to him.

But Jones did not compete according to the rules, so every other person aside from DC should rightly view that match as a no contest, not a Jones win. Because Jones didn't try to win according to the rules.

We have seen more than enough to understand that Daniel cannot defeat Jones. If they were to fight again I don’t give a shit what anybody is saying on this website nobody would give Daniel much of a chance to win the fight.
 
Not when the guy is a massive cheating fraud.

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Man, so hypocritical. You made a good rebuttal, but you needed PEDs to do it.

Not sure how to score this.
 
He's never been caught doing drugs anyways. I've always suspected DC is using honestly. He's able to keep up with guys much younger than him and be stronger, faster, better cardio. The main thing is though is he did so well in the Olympics and after finding out about all the doping in the Olympics I have a hard time believing DC did it clean.

Hes never been caught, but I'll just assume hes a drug cheat anyway? How nice. You always suspected he's doping? What made you suspect that exactly? that flabby dad bod? lol.
 
No, its very logical. His start to gain mass and do lifting coincidented with USADA and PEDs helping it huge.

Yes it's clearly very logical that Jones never used when drug testing was weaker, and only decided to start using the moment USADA was brought in. lol!
 
Are you so confident that USADA testing are really much stronger? Actually I think USADA gives more advantages to top and rich camps and fighters in comparing to poor ones. And even to top and rich countries.
 
Are you so confident that USADA testing are really much stronger? Actually I think USADA gives more advantages to top and rich camps and fighters in comparing to poor ones. And even to top and rich countries.

Yes I'm confident as that's the whole point of usada.
 
I think its more likely that DC was taking such kind of PEDs given his problems with cutting and age.;)
Right, so you have nothing but a presupposition and a winky image, and a weird habit of finger pointing at guys and saying they juice just because their opponent does.

Meanwhile DC has lost fat throughout his UFC career and probably made his cuts less difficult overall.
 
We have seen more than enough to understand that Daniel cannot defeat Jones. If they were to fight again I don’t give a shit what anybody is saying on this website nobody would give Daniel much of a chance to win the fight.
What we have seen beyond a shadow of a doubt is that Jones does not believe he can beat DC without assistance. This is fact.


Can DC beat a clean Jones? Nobody will ever know. But we know Jones must think he can because otherwise he wouldn't have been using Tbol.
 
Right, so you have nothing but a presupposition and a winky image, and a weird habit of finger pointing at guys and saying they juice just because their opponent does.

Meanwhile DC has lost fat throughout his UFC career and probably made his cuts less difficult overall.
So you are nothing but a presupposition and a weird habit to talk like you pressuposition is true and ignore the more fishying things of other guys because you llike them more.

Less difficult? You talk about towels (one was cheating) in 2 of 3 his last weight-ins?;)
 
You saw it 2 times already.
So you are nothing but a presupposition and a weird habit to talk like you pressuposition is true and ignore the more fishying things of other guys because you llike them more.

Less difficult? You talk about towels (one was cheating) in 2 of 3 his last weight-ins?;)

Are you not suggesting in the top quote that DC was juicing?
 
Are you not suggesting in the top quote that DC was juicing?
Are you not suggesting even earlier that Jones was taking PEDs which helped maintain lean mass?
 
Paper champ.
Everyone are on steroids, USADA just give the advantages to more clever and complicated drug-design using. Look at Cyborg and say USADA do good work. And DC, 40 years old former olimpian with inhuman cardio (with such difficult weight cutting), a lot of injuries, granite chin, recovery, amazing strenght - yeeea, he is natty.
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This. This thread is a good display of Sherdog bias and hypocrisy. Remember when RDA beat Pettis? People started a fucking inquisition here claiming he was on steroids because nobody could ever fight at that pace. Cormier and Cain do the same thing despite fighting at the heaviest divisions? Damn they're so good!

Sherdog doesn't care about PEDs. Sherdog cares about finding excuses for their favorite guys losses and to shit on whoever they hate.
 
Are you not suggesting even earlier that Jones was taking PEDs which helped maintain lean mass?
That was a tongue-in-cheek jest, not a serious accusation.

I did say in complete seriousness that the assumption that all fighters use PEDs is invalid, but to suspect that Jones cheated for UFC 182 due to his extremely suspicious ratios, and in light of his two positive tests since that time is reasonable.
 
That was a tongue-in-cheek jest, not a serious accusation.

I did say in complete seriousness that the assumption that all fighters use PEDs is invalid, but to suspect that Jones cheated for UFC 182 due to his extremely suspicious ratios, and in light of his two positive tests since that time is reasonable.
I hope that this is not serious too, because the assumption that all fighters use PEDs is much more valid and reasonable (and especially DC before UFC 182 because of his own suspicious ratios, Olympic background, weight issues, well aging and attributes of the fighter) that suspect only Jon to cheat before UFC 182 assuming from 2 tests (from many) before other fights, one of them was considered Cialis and other is in works (waiting for February).
 
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I hope that this is not serious too, because the assumption that all fighters use PEDs is much more valid and reasonable (and especially DC before UFC 182 because of his own suspicious ratios, Olympic background, weight issues, well aging and attributes of the fighter) that suspect only Jon to cheat before UFC 182 assuming from 2 tests (from many) before other fights, one of them was considered Cialis and other is in works (waiting for February).
DC has never had ratio variance outside of normal range.

I don't only suspect Jones, but it is reasonable to do so based on his genuinely abnormal ratios, ratio variance and two positive test. During his AC hearing after testing positive for PCT a number of peculiarities emerged within his story, hence why when the verdict was handed down there were statements which made clear that the commission believed that Jones was lying. But they couldn't prove it. The Tbol positive test later on is also pretty damning since it would be unreasonable for Jones to have beaten DC previously and then decide he suddenly needed steroids to beat him again.
 
DC has never had ratio variance outside of normal range.

I don't only suspect Jones, but it is reasonable to do so based on his genuinely abnormal ratios, ratio variance and two positive test. During his AC hearing after testing positive for PCT a number of peculiarities emerged within his story, hence why when the verdict was handed down there were statements which made clear that the commission believed that Jones was lying. But they couldn't prove it. The Tbol positive test later on is also pretty damning since it would be unreasonable for Jones to have beaten DC previously and then decide he suddenly needed steroids to beat him again.
Yes, he has. Just not so outrangeous.
Its reasonable to suspect all fighers sans few are on something, especially DC with his own ratios and all that I wrote in previous message. Claiming that Jones was on something and DC wasnt is pure speculation. Like the claim about him lying whenever. If we talk about facts - its Cialis. Other - speculation just like my claim about DC ( actually more reasonable).
While towel thing was real and DC cheated.
And your assuming from one ( from many) positive test for Tbol jumping first to conclusion that it was not supplements, that it was intentional and that Jones feared- its only in your mind, not in reality once again.
Even if we somehow claim it was intentional ( big if) what maybe because he know or suspect something about DC
 
Yes, he has. Just not so outrangeous.
Its reasonable to suspect all fighers sans few are on something, especially DC with his own ratios and all that I wrote in previous message. Claiming that Jones was on something and DC wasnt is pure speculation. Like the claim about him lying whenever. If we talk about facts - its Cialis. Other - speculation just like my claim about DC ( actually more reasonable).
While towel thing was real and DC cheated.
And your assuming from one ( from many) positive test for Tbol jumping first to conclusion that it was not supplements, that it was intentional and that Jones feared- its only in your mind, not in reality once again.
Even if we somehow claim it was intentional ( big if) what maybe because he know or suspect something about DC

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Yes, he has. Just not so outrangeous.
Its reasonable to suspect all fighers sans few are on something, especially DC with his own ratios and all that I wrote in previous message. Claiming that Jones was on something and DC wasnt is pure speculation. Like the claim about him lying whenever. If we talk about facts - its Cialis. Other - speculation just like my claim about DC ( actually more reasonable).
While towel thing was real and DC cheated.
And your assuming from one ( from many) positive test for Tbol jumping first to conclusion that it was not supplements, that it was intentional and that Jones feared- its only in your mind, not in reality once again.
Even if we somehow claim it was intantional ( big if) what maybe because he know of suspect something about DC
DC has never had any variances outside normal ranges. Find me an expert to disprove what I just said or please stop making the claim that he has.

The test which flagged Jones for Tbol is one based on the metabolites which linger after use. There's not much room for doubt there. It's bizarre that you are so willing to bury your head in the sand about Jones despite repeat offences, but have no problem pointing fingers at almost all other fighters without a shred of evidence.

Laughable.




Yes, DC cheated with the towel. Not sure that tarnishes his whole legacy in the same fashion as Jones' substance abuse. It does make him look very bad for a single fight.
 
Willful ignorance is a powerful force.

It's the desperation to defend Jones while simultaneously slandering fighters who have no history of cheating - or even worse, tarring everyone with the one brush - that blows my mind. How are the two concepts held in the one head simultaneously?
 
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