NFL Lineman: "I could be a UFC champ and beat Stipe"

Old Fedor who was never an UFC champ. Same as Mittrione/Schaub/ who are the only recent NFL rejects that made waves in the UFC. Lesnar was a reject but one who made a career in wrestling.

Marcus Jones was an 'A Level' first round draft who played pro for six years and didn't get through TUF because he was knocked out by a reject... Schaub. By your logic Jones should have won TUF AND become UFC champ.

Lesnar isn't an NFL reject.

He got a tryout despite never even playing football before and he was close to 30. Bork is just a goddamn freakish athlete.
 
And Tony Mandarich can KO Mike Tyson.

(High five if you get the reference)
 
He's good, but if I trained for it I'd be a much better NFL lineman than Damon Harrison.

See how easy that is?
 
yeah like 20 years ago. like matters. randy had been fighting all throughout Lesnar's career. he hadn't wrestled in AGES when hrted training MMA.

randy was an NCAA d1 wrestler too btw.

AND an accomplished MMAist,

lesnar is just a superior athlete.. thats why he won

hes only like B level though. imagine what an A level would do
MMA was the only professional sport Lesnar could even get a gig doing and he became champ almost immediately.
Brock failings in other sports were caused by himself not any physical shortcomings

The Vikings wanted him to play guard...he refused cause he only wanted to play defense

Brock sucker at k1 cause he hates getting hit in the face

Basically he found his goldilocks fit with MMA

Regardless if he hadn't made it in mma either, the guy was an A level physical specimin...you really can't deny it

Were talking about a near 300 pound man who had a 4.6 second 40 yard dash, could bench press 225 pounds over 30 times and had a bigger vertical than kevin durant....I can count on 1 hand the number of guys that size I've seen put up numbers like that at the combine
 
Brock Lesnar became World champ within just 1 year and 3 fights after giving MMA a go when he failed to cut it in the NFL.

Guys like Brendan Schaub and Travis Browne, failed athletes from other sports who had no combat sports/martial arts experience prior to taking up MMA in their mid-twenties, became top contenders in the UFC within just a couple of years.

You've just seen a 30 odd year-old nightclub bouncer, new to the sport, who can't even throw 20 punches without gassing out, get hyped as the next big thing and given a title shot.

There are some good athletes in the lower weight classes but the heavyweights are very, very poor. It's real bottom of the barrel level stuff. Now I'm not saying that random NFL players could just waltz into MMA and beat anyone right off the bat, obviously they couldn't. But the idea that elite level athletes would need years and years of training to at least be able to compete in the HW division is clearly not true.

I get the impression that a lot of sherdoggers and MMA fans are like Joe Rogan in that they don't really watch much sport outside of MMA/UFC so they don't understand the true level of what it is they are watching. MMA heavyweights are sill much closer in talent and athleticism to guys from the early days like Tank Abbott than they are to top draw large athletes from other sports like football, basketball, boxing and rugby.

Lesnar was an elite wrestler with elite athletic ability, just look at his stats in the NFL combine.

You're correct that HW as a division is garbage though.
 
There are probably a good hundred guys in the nfl that could be heavyweight champ with 8-12 months on training and a warmup fight or 2. The level of athlete is just different. Bigger, stronger, faster. Look at the nfl rejects who were taking out mma legends left and right even after they past their prime. Mitrione could barely sniff an nfl roster and just knocked out fedor recently.

Most of those guys would get subbed by Werdum or outwrestled by Stipe or Cormier if they didn't have a grappling background.

You can't get by on athleticism alone.
 
randy and lesnar both NCAA d1 wrestlers.

Randy had 24 fights worth of experience and 10 years worth of MMA experience on top of that when he fought lesnar

lesnar only had ONE YEAR of MMA training.

one fucking year. and he hadn't wrestled competitively in 7 years. his last title was in 2000.

he started MMA in 2007




it all boils down to lesnar being a B level athlete and Randy a C
Maybe it more had to do with the fact Lesnar was about 100 pounds larger than Randy and 20 years younger than 50 year old Couture? The Lesnar being proof that A Level athletes can easily succeed in MMA was mercilessly debunked by Cain, who basically started training MMA around the same time and made Brock look like a helpless child, CM Punk level really. Fighting is so different than other sports and provides avenues where slow twitch stoners, like the Diaz brothers, can whip on A level athletes by implementing their game plan and being A level can be more a liability than a help.
 
I hate guys who talk shit knowing they have no intention of ever having to back it up.
 
Guys like this get smacked in the face and crumple. Think of Lesnar but far worse. They think they’re fighters b/c they weigh 300lbs. One stiff jab to the face, temporary loss of vision, feel their skin tear a bit... and we’d never see him again.
 
Would get murdered by Stipe and then by USADA.

Handeggers are not the brightest people out there apparently.
 
This
Nfl guys are poor all round atheltes when compared to most sports including mma

Rule of thumb if the adverage sherdogger can beat an athlete in an endurance or cardio challenge they aint 'a-level'
Or if many of your teamates require oxygen masks for a few mins work again not an a-level athelte sport

Domt get me wrong they are amazing niche athletes like sprinters ,marathon runners or strongmen but awful all rounders.

1. Sprinting isn't a niche athletic skill. Running fast is fundamental to sports.

2. When you say "NFL guys" who exactly are you talking abut? Wide receivers? Linebackers? Linemen? They all have different body types and different cardio levels, etc. No shit a 340 lb guy doesn't have great cardio. The real question is how good is his cardio compared to the average 340 lb man.

3. You never adequately define "all around athleticism" other than it prohibiting oxygen masks. You say sprinters and marathoners are niche skills, but there aren't any runners competitive in both.
 
this guy would tire in under 3 min at 340lbs. the ref would have to stop it when he's on his back due to exhaustion.
 
It doesn't mean anything unless he's willing to try it. He could also say he's going to go into physics and win a Nobel Prize for figuring out what dark matter is, and the answer would be the same: its good to believe in yourself, now go do it.
 
Only hardcore NFL fans would have the slightest clue as to who Damon Harrison is. A level star, no.

Also he could never make 265 ever in his life. Dude weighs 340

If he loses the gut, he could make it.

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They should make an upcoming HW TUF season out of former pro sports athletes.
 
isnt that what they all say until they get kicked in the leg once?
 

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