Lake Monsters and Sea Serpents

I'd rather wait for the reply you get from that letter because I want to defer responsibility for my retarded claim away from myself and I know you won't send a letter because it's a stupid fucking idea and even I know that. The only reason I keep bringing up this stupid idea is because it's the only pathetic argument I have. If I wasnt so full of shit I would just prove you wrong by posting a peer reviewed study, but I can't. And despite the fact that I'm acting so cocky on the internet, I'm really just covering up for my pathetic life.

Fixed that for you.

You know that's the thing. If he would actually just post a reasonable (non-douchebag) response or no response at all, he wouldn't have half the trouble he gets. I've seen everyone from the war room, berry, and mods bash him. He's constantly put up for vote as sherdog's worst poster every time it comes up in a poll thread.

I would say a majority of the time I would give reasonable responses, if I didn't have to navigate posts full of landmines from people who rather post weak little pop-shots then actually use their brain to think. People like jgarner aren't skeptics, their flat out denialists. Always *claiming* or trying to hide their lack of intelligence under the *claim* that *they* believe in scientific theory, but never actually using it because they never attempt to measure or test the other claim, theory or subject matter.

ffs the guy is taking a shit on NOAA because he doesn't like what he's hearing or reading. You can't reason with idiots who already have the answers predetermined regardless of what maybe provided to them. Yet he's *winning* lol (Just goes to further show how insecure he is. This thread was about conjecture of Lake Monsters but to him its all about winning! Winning what though? there's literally noting to win in a thread that has no objective to win but simply have discourse on hypotheticals) :rolleyes:

The dude is literally as nuts as he is insecure. If there was anything to win in this thread, then he definitely did that by looking like a complete try hard.

Hahaha! Worst poster in the War Room? Idiots like you and Scyther are the ones who put me up for that shit because I fucking wreck you guys every time you say something fucking retarded. Like when you said you believe in ancient aliens in Egypt. Let's get into that subject matter. Why do you always blatantly ignore me when I bring up your beliefs McRetard? So let's stop acting like that means anything. When you look at the list of people who voted for me, they're the biggest clown fucks on the board. The people who voted for me are the same idiots who believe in the 9/11 conspiracy, Bigfoot, alien abductions, and other ridiculous shit. Just because you guys have a voice like the rest of us doesn't mean it's worth a shit.

And I'm trashing the NOAA now? Or did I just say that one unsubstantiated claim they made without peer reviewed evidence is most likely wrong? I didn't make the claim. They did and you guys did. When you make a claim, the onus is on you to substantiate said claim. That's how science works and if you can't substantiate your claim, it's worthless. It doesn't matter who you are. And let's not pretend like on any other day you wouldn't be more than happy to dismiss information from sources like the NOAA. You're only sucking their dick right now because you want me to be wrong.

And I'll always talk down to idiots like you who believe dumb shit. I have zero respect for you as a human being. It's 2018 and you think ancient aliens were running around in Egypt.

You literally just posted four long paragraphs and two posts in row to tell me how I'm the tryhard.

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It's like taking candy from a baby.
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You literally just did the internet meme version of "I know you are but what am I". You're so sad that you're down to resorting to elementary school arguments.

You hold the same beliefs as this guy...

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Our peer reviewed study say you suck ass you silly tit

I suck the ass of your mothers and sisters. You all suck dicks. We like what we like.
 


Aww buddy are you embarrassed to talk about the fact that you believe in ancient aliens in Egypt?

It's funny how you avoid answering me like the little weasel you are. So predictable. Seriously though, that elementary school "I know you are but what am I" argument was great.
 
Those numbers are from the original claim that I disputed. Someone said that 95% of the oceans are still unexplored and I said I don't believe that's true and asked for a peer reviewed study to substantiate that claim. That's when Bear decided that I think the entire organisation is a bunch of retards and that I think I know more than science or whatever stupid shit he claimed.

So we have the same question actually. Where are people getting this 95% of the ocean is unexplored number? From all the various fishing, exploring, surveying, and diving expeditions I think the number is completely wrong. We've seen most of our oceans and there's not likely much left hiding from us.

I was referring to your post when you said the map that I linked had way over 5% mapped. Where did you get that from?
 
Good lord stop responding to people like jgarner and Jopious Extronimous. Let them say they believe it doesn't exist then let them be.
 
Definitely no such thing as lake "Monsters." not like the way most people think anyway. However there are most definitely monster species of fish swimming around in our rivers/lakes. Humongous catfish, gar, snake head, carp, sturgeon, all exist.

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I have no doubt there are fish much larger than these living in our lakes and rivers. Once a fish like these reach a certain age, the chances of them being caught goes down. I know around where I live, they are predicting a huge increase in alligator gar population and size due to the amount of rain and flooding the last 3-4 years.

These are all freshwater fish, I wonder what kind of goliaths are swimming around at the bottom of the oceans?

Thanks for sharing your opinion.

We already know about all those big fish. This thread is about lake serpents/monsters. Could always post a monster fish thread if you like.
 
Thread's gone to shizz, innit. So many people just want to shit over things they don't agree with, rather than do the obvious thing and don't bother venturing into the thread. I see a thread about reality TV, I don't bother entering. Why waste your time, like?

Yeah it's weird and creepy, they keep coming back even after saying they believe it doesn't exist.
 
Thanks for sharing your opinion.

We already know about all those big fish. This thread is about lake serpents/monsters. Could always post a monster fish thread if you like.

So your thread is about fake conspiracies rather than actual lake monsters. Wonderful.
 
I was referring to your post when you said the map that I linked had way over 5% mapped. Where did you get that from?

If you have all of the surveying methods selected, it shows quite a bit of the oceans to be mapped. It looks substantially more than 1/20th of the ocean. I don't know though. That's my entire point. I wanted to see the study or math of where they come to that figure because it doesn't meet the smell test.
 
Yeah it's weird and creepy, they keep coming back even after saying they believe it doesn't exist.

So you would rather just have a circle jerk of people agreeing with you than have someone press people for more information and evidence?

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Might as well add sea serpents. No DNA which is the only evidence you want so might as well just leave the thread.

Magnus’s Carta Marina of 1539

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Konrad Gesner's Historiae Animalium, 1558



"Historiae naturalis" by Joannes Jonstonus, 1657

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These people got really freaked out by what they said was a serpent like creature in the water chasing another animal. Try to not let the title of the videos trigger you too hard.








Very cool eyewitness account:


 
Thanks for sharing your opinion.

We already know about all those big fish. This thread is about lake serpents/monsters. Could always post a monster fish thread if you like.
Well apparently everyone doesn't know about these fish, otherwise people wouldn't see them surface on a body of water, and then run around telling people they saw aquaman.
 
Well apparently everyone doesn't know about these fish, otherwise people wouldn't see them surface on a body of water, and then run around telling people they saw aquaman.

They're not seeing these fish or aquaman. They're seeing long serpent like creatures that are usually black or really dark blue in color in lakes that sometimes rears its head and body out of the water. Hundreds of sighting all describe the same thing.
 
Aww buddy are you embarrassed to talk about the fact that you believe in ancient aliens in Egypt?

It's funny how you avoid answering me like the little weasel you are. So predictable. Seriously though, that elementary school "I know you are but what am I" argument was great.
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They're not seeing these fish or aquaman. They're seeing long serpent like creatures that are usually black or really dark blue in color in lakes that sometimes rears its head and body out of the water. Hundreds of sighting all describe the same thing.

You just described an alligator gar, a Snake head fish, catfish, and probably a dozen other species of aquatic life.
 
Came in here to see if JGarner was still having a fit.

Took about 3 seconds to realize that yes, yes he is. lol
 
These people got really freaked out by what they said was a serpent like creature in the water chasing another animal. Try to not let the title of the videos trigger you too hard.








Very cool eyewitness account:




Says this thread isn't about fish. Posts pics and videos of things which are most likely fish.
 
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