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Huh, didn't know that. If they're not active then how how do they exist in any meaningful way?What's even crazier is they're still sorta around, just not active
Huh, didn't know that. If they're not active then how how do they exist in any meaningful way?What's even crazier is they're still sorta around, just not active
This is an outstanding documentary so far; I'll have to finish tomorrow. Looks like they have a whole series. Cheers @Trotsky
same shit, different country, for an agency with the word "intellegence" in the name, they sure do fuck up a lot
If you were to list the top 10 fucked up things did in the name of U.S. foreign policy I would rank what we did to Mohamed mosaadegh in the top 5.
It's truly heartbreaking because when the idea was posited to Truman he was like, "fuck no. We need to let them choose their own destiny ."
It wasn't until Ike and being cajoled by the brits with the communist scare tactic did Americans support this coup .
How dare mosaadegh look after his own people and want to nationalize their own fucking oil. Lol.
Watch this and you'll probably enjoy it:
Pretty sure there's a second part that recounts everything up to King Hussein's death.
If you were to list the top 10 fucked up things did in the name of U.S. foreign policy I would rank what we did to Mohamed mosaadegh in the top 5.
It's truly heartbreaking because when the idea was posited to Truman he was like, "fuck no. We need to let them choose their own destiny ."
It wasn't until Ike and being cajoled by the brits with the communist scare tactic did Americans support this coup .
How dare mosaadegh look after his own people and want to nationalize their own fucking oil. Lol.
PBS does some fantastic work
Agreed. I remember early in the 2016 primary, when I was still very skeptical of Bernie Sanders as some vanilla social democrat, he made a comment in an interview about the tragedy of Mossadegh and how we were partially to blame for the disposition and hostility of Iran. I gained a lot of respect for him after that (and also after he took a principled stance on defending Palestinians).
It speaks to the perpetual hubris and sense of entitlement in American international policy.
Also, on that note, Truman was just an outstanding President. Best one since FDR and probably the greatest friend of American workers of any president in history, including FDR. He'll be forever known for the atomic bomb, first and foremost, but he really was an iconic leader. I could do without the Zionism and Truman Doctrine, but pobody's nerfect.
If you were to list the top 10 fucked up things did in the name of U.S. foreign policy I would rank what we did to Mohamed mosaadegh in the top 5.
It's truly heartbreaking because when the idea was posited to Truman he was like, "fuck no. We need to let them choose their own destiny ."
It wasn't until Ike and being cajoled by the brits with the communist scare tactic did Americans support this coup .
How dare mosaadegh look after his own people and want to nationalize their own fucking oil. Lol.
Agreed. I remember early in the 2016 primary, when I was still very skeptical of Bernie Sanders as some vanilla social democrat, he made a comment in an interview about the tragedy of Mossadegh and how we were partially to blame for the disposition and hostility of Iran. I gained a lot of respect for him after that (and also after he took a principled stance on defending Palestinians).
It speaks to the perpetual hubris and sense of entitlement in American international policy.
Also, on that note, Truman was just an outstanding President. Best one since FDR and probably the greatest friend of American workers of any president in history, including FDR. He'll be forever known for the atomic bomb, first and foremost, but he really was an iconic leader. I could do without the Zionism and Truman Doctrine, but pobody's nerfect.
It wouldn't be the first time British interests ruined everything.
Yup, Corbyn is truly great:What sucks is how many great figures there are, and have been, in the British left like Tony Benn and, today, Jeremy Corbyn.
Not all Jews are wealthy and involved in a media conspiracy...“...to assume that a Jewish friend is wealthy, part of some kind of financial or media conspiracy or takes a particular position on politics in general, or on Israel and on Palestine in particular.”
Yup, Corbyn is truly great:
Shares stage with holocaust deniers, calls Hamas and Hizbollah his friends.
This quote is quite telling:
Not all Jews are wealthy and involved in a media conspiracy...
Thanks for the language lecture, please feel free to contact among others Financial Times and Crisis group and correct them as well.If that's the worst that you have, then he must be a fucking saint.
Also, it's Hezbollah.
Huh?
That quote isn't a complete sentence and you didn't provide a source for it. For all I know the complete sentence is "It's wrong...to assume that a Jewish friend is wealthy, part of some kind of financial or media conspiracy or takes a particular position on politics in general, or on Israel and on Palestine in particular.”
That clearly alludes to a conspiracy involving Jewish capitalists and media even though your Jewish friend may be innocent.To assume that a Jewish friend or fellow member is wealthy, part of some kind of financial or media conspiracy, or takes a particular position on politics in general, or on Israel and Palestine in particular, is just wrong.
http://jeremycorbyn.org.uk/articles/jeremy-corbyn-my-speech-at-the-launch-of-the-chakrabarti-report/
Thanks for the language lecture, please feel free to contact among others Financial Times and Crisis group and correct them as well.
https://www.crisisgroup.org/middle-...zbollah-and-iran-preventing-another-war-syria
As for the quote:
That clearly alludes to a conspiracy involving Jewish capitalists and media even though your Jewish friend may be innocent.
Antisemitism is rampant in the Labour party.
...which basically means: By the way, not all Jews are bad or rich Jews who run the media and support Israel.He said it's wrong to assume a Jewish person is wealthy or an Israel supporter. What exactly is antisemitic about that? Are you just dumb, or what?
It's incredible the straws that right-wingers like you will grasp on to try to criticize the left, while remaining willfully ignorant to the bountiful and substantive criticisms available to the right.
I think they went from active bombing to just ranting online and shitHuh, didn't know that. If they're not active then how how do they exist in any meaningful way?
...which basically means: By the way, not all Jews are bad or rich Jews who run the media and support Israel.
Add that to the problem with antisemitism within the Labour party and how they have tried to whitewash it.