Mainstream music nowadays is mostly trash

[PIИKBLIИK]

I'm finding it overseas but it's likely the fault of the record companies in america not supporting real bands.

Japan is kicking ass in metal and hard rock and even pop but the Kpop has recently caught up to them.

India, austria, china, mongolia all have some pretty good bands.

I would say Kpop has took over Japan pop now. But I am finding recently with companies trying to export the sound to the west Kpop is becoming more and more generic and American pop/hiphop/edm/etc influenced, not in a good way.

Which is why I think a lot of people still really love Japanese music as it is currently going through a period over the last 10+ years where they are intentionally trying not to export it to the west and I think that's a benefit to be perfectly honest.

OP. Yeah most modern chart music is trash, can't remember the last song/artist I really liked and i am a huge pop music fan. Right now I get my fill from Kpop for light easy listening pop music.

The only recent rap song that was worth shit is Joyner Lucas, I'm Not Racist. But rock, metal and pop are bloody trash today.

 

[Winter-John]

I was amazed to see Coldplay and Maroon 5 are still going. I thought they would've been selling used cars or loft insulation by now.

 

[jrams]

There's no musician nowadays who is known primarily for playing an instrument.

 

[MacDuffle]

After randomly hearing Der Kommissar by After The Fire for the thousand time I wanted to see how it performed back then. Astonishingly it only reached place 30th. This is the Billboard Year-End Hot 100 singles of 1983, and it is full of high quality music with real heart and creativity behind it.

№ Title Artist(s)
1 "Every Breath You Take" The Police
2 "Billie Jean" Michael Jackson
3 "Flashdance... What a Feeling" Irene Cara
4 "Down Under" Men at Work
5 "Beat It" Michael Jackson
6 "Total Eclipse of the Heart" Bonnie Tyler
7 "Maneater" Hall & Oates
8 "Baby, Come to Me" Patti Austin and James Ingram
9 "Maniac" Michael Sembello
10 "Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)" Eurythmics
11 "Do You Really Want to Hurt Me" Culture Club
12 "You and I" Eddie Rabbitt and Crystal Gayle
13 "Come On Eileen" Dexys Midnight Runners
14 "Shame on the Moon" Bob Seger & The Silver Bullet Band
15 "She Works Hard for the Money" Donna Summer
16 "Never Gonna Let You Go" Sérgio Mendes
17 "Hungry Like the Wolf" Duran Duran
18 "Let's Dance" David Bowie
19 "Twilight Zone" Golden Earring
20 "I Know There's Something Going On" Frida
21 "Jeopardy" The Greg Kihn Band
22 "Electric Avenue" Eddy Grant
23 "She Blinded Me with Science" Thomas Dolby
24 "Africa" Toto
25 "Little Red Corvette" Prince
26 "Back on the Chain Gang" The Pretenders
27 "Up Where We Belong" Joe Cocker and Jennifer Warnes
28 "Mr. Roboto" Styx
29 "You Are" Lionel Richie
30 "Der Kommissar" After the Fire
31 "Puttin' on the Ritz" Taco
32 "Sexual Healing" Marvin Gaye
33 "(Keep Feeling) Fascination" The Human League
34 "Time (Clock of the Heart)" Culture Club
35 "The Safety Dance" Men Without Hats
36 "Mickey" Toni Basil
37 "You Can't Hurry Love" Phil Collins
38 "Separate Ways (Worlds Apart)" Journey
39 "One on One" Hall & Oates
40 "We've Got Tonight" Kenny Rogers and Sheena Easton
41 "1999" Prince
42 "Stray Cat Strut" Stray Cats
43 "Allentown" Billy Joel
44 "Stand Back" Stevie Nicks
45 "Tell Her About It" Billy Joel
46 "Always Something There to Remind Me" Naked Eyes
47 "Truly" Lionel Richie
48 "Dirty Laundry" Don Henley
49 "The Girl Is Mine" Michael Jackson and Paul McCartney
50 "Too Shy" Kajagoogoo
51 "Goody Two-Shoes" Adam Ant
52 "Rock the Casbah" The Clash
53 "Our House" Madness
54 "Overkill" Men at Work
55 "Is There Something I Should Know?" Duran Duran
56 "Gloria" Laura Branigan
57 "Affair of the Heart" Rick Springfield
58 "She's a Beauty" The Tubes
59 "Solitaire" Laura Branigan
60 "Don't Let It End" Styx
61 "How Am I Supposed to Live Without You" Laura Branigan
62 "China Girl" David Bowie
63 "Come Dancing" The Kinks
64 "Promises, Promises" Naked Eyes
65 "The Other Guy" Little River Band
66 "Making Love Out of Nothing at All" Air Supply
67 "Family Man" Hall & Oates
68 "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'" Michael Jackson
69 "I Won't Hold You Back" Toto
70 "All Right" Christopher Cross
71 "Straight from the Heart" Bryan Adams
72 "Heart to Heart" Kenny Loggins
73 "My Love" Lionel Richie
74 "I'm Still Standing" Elton John
75 "Hot Girls in Love" Loverboy
76 "It's a Mistake" Men at Work
77 "I'll Tumble 4 Ya" Culture Club
78 "All This Love" DeBarge
79 "Your Love Is Driving Me Crazy" Sammy Hagar
80 "Heartbreaker" Dionne Warwick
81 "Faithfully" Journey
82 "Steppin' Out" Joe Jackson
83 "Take Me to Heart" Quarterflash
84 "(She's) Sexy + 17" Stray Cats
85 "Try Again" Champaign
86 "Dead Giveaway" Shalamar
87 "Lawyers in Love" Jackson Browne
88 "What About Me" Moving Pictures
89 "Human Nature" Michael Jackson
90 "Photograph" Def Leppard
91 "Pass the Dutchie" Musical Youth
92 "True" Spandau Ballet
93 "Far from Over" Frank Stallone
94 "I've Got a Rock 'n' Roll Heart" Eric Clapton
95 "It Might Be You" Stephen Bishop
96 "Tonight, I Celebrate My Love" Peabo Bryson and Roberta Flack
97 "You Got Lucky" Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
98 "Don't Cry" Asia
99 "Breaking Us in Two" Joe Jackson
100 "Fall in Love with Me" Earth, Wind & Fire

and this is last year's top 100:

1 "Shape of You" Ed Sheeran
2 "Despacito" Luis Fonsi and Daddy Yankee featuring Justin Bieber
3 "That's What I Like" Bruno Mars
4 "Humble" Kendrick Lamar
5 "Something Just Like This" The Chainsmokers and Coldplay
6 "Bad and Boujee" Migos featuring Lil Uzi Vert
7 "Closer" The Chainsmokers featuring Halsey
8 "Body Like a Back Road" Sam Hunt
9 "Believer" Imagine Dragons
10 "Congratulations" Post Malone featuring Quavo
11 "Say You Won't Let Go" James Arthur
12 "I'm the One" DJ Khaled featuring Justin Bieber, Quavo, Chance the Rapper and Lil Wayne
13 "XO Tour Llif3" Lil Uzi Vert
14 "Mask Off" Future
15 "Unforgettable" French Montana featuring Swae Lee
16 "24K Magic" Bruno Mars
17 "Stay" Zedd and Alessia Cara
18 "Wild Thoughts" DJ Khaled featuring Rihanna and Bryson Tiller
19 "Black Beatles" Rae Sremmurd featuring Gucci Mane
20 "Starboy" The Weeknd featuring Daft Punk
21 "Location" Khalid
22 "Attention" Charlie Puth
23 "There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back" Shawn Mendes
24 "Bodak Yellow (Money Moves)" Cardi B
25 "Redbone" Childish Gambino
26 "I Don't Wanna Live Forever" Zayn and Taylor Swift
27 "It Ain't Me" Kygo and Selena Gomez
28 "iSpy" Kyle featuring Lil Yachty
29 "Issues" Julia Michaels
30 "Scars to Your Beautiful" Alessia Cara
31 "1-800-273-8255" Logic featuring Alessia Cara and Khalid
32 "Slow Hands" Niall Horan
33 "Love on the Brain" Rihanna
34 "I Feel It Coming" The Weeknd featuring Daft Punk
35 "Bounce Back" Big Sean
36 "Strip That Down" Liam Payne featuring Quavo
37 "Fake Love" Drake
38 "Don't Wanna Know" Maroon 5 featuring Kendrick Lamar
39 "Look What You Made Me Do" Taylor Swift
40 "Castle on the Hill" Ed Sheeran
41 "Bad Things" Machine Gun Kelly and Camila Cabello
42 "Paris" The Chainsmokers
43 "Side to Side" Ariana Grande featuring Nicki Minaj
44 "Rockabye" Clean Bandit featuring Sean Paul and Anne-Marie
45 "Feel It Still" Portugal. The Man
46 "Let Me Love You" DJ Snake featuring Justin Bieber
47 "Sorry Not Sorry" Demi Lovato
48 "Bank Account" 21 Savage
49 "Can't Stop the Feeling!" Justin Timberlake
50 "Mi Gente" J Balvin and Willy William featuring Beyoncé
51 "Thunder" Imagine Dragons
52 "T-Shirt" Migos
53 "Rake It Up" Yo Gotti featuring Nicki Minaj
54 "Mercy" Shawn Mendes
55 "Tunnel Vision" Kodak Black
56 "Rockstar" Post Malone featuring 21 Savage
57 "In Case You Didn't Know" Brett Young
58 "Heathens" Twenty One Pilots
59 "Now or Never" Halsey
60 "Caroline" Aminé
61 "Rolex" Ayo & Teo
62 "DNA" Kendrick Lamar
63 "Juju on That Beat (TZ Anthem)" Zay Hilfigerrr & Zayion McCall
64 "Swang" Rae Sremmurd
65 "Passionfruit" Drake
66 "Loyalty" Kendrick Lamar featuring Rihanna
67 "Praying" Kesha
68 "Goosebumps" Travis Scott featuring Kendrick Lamar
69 "Cold" Maroon 5 featuring Future
70 "Broccoli" DRAM featuring Lil Yachty
71 "Slide" Calvin Harris featuring Frank Ocean and Migos
72 "What Ifs" Kane Brown featuring Lauren Alaina
73 "Chained to the Rhythm" Katy Perry featuring Skip Marley
74 "Feels" Calvin Harris featuring Pharrell Williams, Katy Perry and Big Sean
75 "All Time Low" Jon Bellion
76 "Hurricane" Luke Combs
77 "Too Good at Goodbyes" Sam Smith
78 "Young Dumb & Broke" Khalid
79 "Magnolia" Playboi Carti
80 "Love Galore" SZA featuring Travis Scott
81 "Drowning" A Boogie wit da Hoodie featuring Kodak Black
82 "Starving" Hailee Steinfeld and Grey featuring Zedd
83 "Both" Gucci Mane featuring Drake
84 "What About Us" Pink
85 "Swalla" Jason Derulo featuring Nicki Minaj and Ty Dolla Sign
86 "Slippery" Migos featuring Gucci Mane
87 "Sign of the Times" Harry Styles
88 "Water Under the Bridge" Adele
89 "Malibu" Miley Cyrus
90 "Down" Marian Hill
91 "No Promises" Cheat Codes featuring Demi Lovato
92 "Treat You Better" Shawn Mendes
93 "I Get the Bag" Gucci Mane featuring Migos
94 "Small Town Boy" Dustin Lynch
95 "Everyday We Lit" YFN Lucci featuring PnB Rock
96 "Havana" Camila Cabello featuring Young Thug
97 "What Lovers Do" Maroon 5 featuring SZA
98 "Do Re Mi" Blackbear
99 "Look at Me!" XXXTentacion
100 "The Fighter" Keith Urban featuring Carrie Underwood

As you can see mostly trash without soul or inspiration. Sad.

why you gotta do "Look at Me!" XXXTentacion like that

 

[MacDuffle]

At one point i heard how people now think drake is one of the best rappers of all time.
I thought about killing myself for a bit.
Then i realized that this whole new generation is retarded and completely useless.
They are just gonna look for an AP for their phone that feeds them.

you can prove with science that Drake tonation is dumb

 

[bortt]

"cultural brainwashing"

 

[Mr. 4K]

I concur Opie.

However the GOAT 80s song came out in 84.

Boys of Summer.

Fight me if you don't agree.

 

[MagnumDong]

you can prove with science that Drake tonation is dumb

The funny thing is that when Pusha T made that diss track about him, despite Pusha knowing the song isn't going to go on any album or be played on the radio, in terms of technical prowess the rapping was objectively better than anything Drake has ever done.

 

[TeTe]

Pop music has always had a lot of duds. But rock music is at an all time low for the most part.. at least the mainstream shit. No one plays instruments anymore.. it's all electronica. The only good rock that comes out nowadays isn't mainstream.

 

[Crimson Glory]

I prefer the stuff that came out back in the 70's-80's, but there was plenty of shitty music back then.

For some strange reason alot of the stuff that gets the most exposure often is the kind of stuff that doesn't stand the test of time.

I likin' it to fast food.

I remember looking at a list of the top tracks from 1980, 90% of them I'd never heard of, which is odd the amount I've researched into 80's music and when I did check them out I thought they were awful and it was clear why I had never heard of them.

 

[Crimson Glory]

Looking at the list in the OP though, there are some good songs there.

Bruno Mars, Sheeran.

I don't think theres a single song they've released I didnt like.

 

[The Diplomat]

If you don't dance, then you're no friend of mine.

 

[Lucifer Alpha]

Mainstream music caters exclusively to women and homosexuals.

 

[Blackjack]

You should list some of the top tracks between 87-89. Its just as trashy but the upside of it was that it took time for people to sort out some of the trash and let some of the better tunes stand the test of time. You probably don't remember the shit they had like Kokomo, Every Rose has its thorns, Warrant etc

First, you have to realize that these are singles charts. People who are seriously interested in music don't care about singles charts - they care about album oriented rock. I was pleasantly surprised to find at least 3 songs which I like though. Twilight Zone by Golden Earring is a cool song with a cool riff. Photograph by Def Leppard is the closest thing to heavy metal on the list and while you can debate the merits (or lack thereof) of Def Leppard, Photograph has a loud distorted rock guitar sound with a cool riff and a catchy melody. The other song I like is Separate Ways by Journey although I prefer Stone In Live if we're going to mention Journey. Another song by Journey I like is "Who's Crying Now which has a beautiful guitar solo in the outro of the song. Mainstream rock not withstanding, Neal Schon is a hell of a good guitarist!

 

[Joy]

in order to stop the cycle of bad music you gotta be your own leader, and doing it requires that you take all the criticism and harsh comments that come with it when you put yourself and your music out there... and you have to have faith that someone will find value in it eventually https://www.reverbnation.com/joyhannush
people will say they don't like the keys you play because they are used to hearing songs in the pop keys... doing something different from the norm is now becoming discouraged by society as a whole, but if you reject the conformity then you can change it