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So since the police in Uvalde (and in those other situations you have in mind) were cowards you think a teacher already in the building would also fail to fight back if needed? Do you not think that an armed teacher in any of those situations would've been able to fight back (as the last line...

Is that really the expectation here though? Do you not see it more as a deterrent than an actual force protection or front-line response to a shooting? I'd suspect the schools would still have a shelter-in-place policy and only allow the armed response from a teacher in a classroom that is...

Did you not have to provide some form of ID or address verification when you got on "the list"? We do here in Oklahoma and are given a free voter ID that is valid to present at our polling location. There is a specific polling location for every registered voter . . . nobody is saying we can...

Has a study found that it's more common for someone to make it through life without an ID than for someone to have a regular need for an ID? Elections are fairly rare, but I'd assume most normal people would have a pretty regular need for an ID in their daily lives.

<Neil01> They're privately owned and contracted to provide licensing, vehicle registration, titles, tags, and other services. Closing them down or messing with their hours of operation hasn't happened here.

Thankfully in Oklahoma, we can get a license, Real ID, etc. at our local tag agencies. There are 5 or more within 15 miles of my house. Except for new drivers and those who need to establish an Oklahoma driving record, we're not limited to a DMV office.

If the state closes the DMV near someone there are much bigger issues at hand.

If we're done. We're done. So it ultimately doesn't matter how I feel about SB 518.

I imagine it'll get worse before it gets better.

You're whining about what I've said but are acting stupid about that point? You seriously have no clue why verifying your ID at voter registration to make sure the voter logs are accurate is important? But yet you're blasting me for telling you how to get on our voter rolls. Unbelievable...

Oh stop acting like you're not being a complete douchebag too. You're so blinded by your own stance you're completely refusing to read anything because you disagree with it. I'll repeat it just for good measure . . . verifying your ID at voter registration is in no way shape or form voter...

Good grief . . . . you can't even keep voter registration, voter IDs, or presenting ID when voting separate. Thirty-six states have some identification requirements at the polls. Not all voter ID requirements are discriminatory or burdensome to voters, but seven have strict photo ID laws, under...

Oh boo hoo . . . I've said that from the beginning. I don't think expecting people to verify their identity when registering to vote is suppressing anything. I think early voting and absentee ballots are more than sufficient to give anyone who cares to vote the opportunity to do so. I...

I. Don't. Care. Give me a break. This isn't "my way". I'm providing information on an existing system that is working fine. I don't even address fraud. I'm not concerned about fraud. That doesn't mean I can't expect identities to be verified with registering to vote. Wow. Oklahoma's...

Was the tomato cut already? I didn't think you were supposed to refrigerate tomatoes.

Oh stop. You know exactly what you're doing. You've yet again completely ignored the actual comments I've made here to do just that. I'm not putting up some charade. I've already made it pretty clear how we see this differently. What we have in Oklahoma NOW is working. It's working just...

I'm sure that's the case, but you have to consider how many of those folks who can't be bothered to go through the registration process to prove their identity would even vote in the first place. There are so many disenfranchised people out there who don't vote at all (for reasons unrelated to...

Holy crap. You can't even bother to discuss the actual comment I made and must rehash old conversations to get your digs in. All I know is the process we have in Oklahoma works. So for now, that foundation is most definitely not quicksand. I provided you with the context of how they're...

Does every state system mirror what we use in Oklahoma? Because that's what I'm referring to and would agree is already working. What am I wanting to be changed? What idea are you referring to and what negative effects?

Thanks for completely ignoring the content of that post and continuing to mischaracterize what I said previously. I knew it was pointless to even quote you.