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So it's not really a reference to biology, but rather a social construct of what a male should be then? Besides, that phrase isn't only used to refer to someone's maturity.

No. They aren't saying that he's not being manly. The statement is that he is not being a man. Is that a statement about sex or gender?

The kids in that Louis Theroux documentary were far more self aware than most adults that I've met. Also, please respond:

@fingercuffs I watched around 40 minutes of the Louis Theroux documentary, it was pretty interesting. Those kids seem pretty sure to me, and the parents were handling it quite well imo. Louis is also such an adorably awkward guy, lol. Holy shit at that adult black guy thought, I wouldn't ever...

If you made some direct accusations, then I might have reported you. Your comparison was pretty dumb either way, because this is done with the intent to protect kids from shitty parents. It's clearly dumb to compare this to an abuser isolating a child in order to abuse them. It's pretty hard to...

Oh damn, so when someone says that "John isn't a real man because X", they are referring to biology and not the social construct we call "gender" these days?

Why do you keep completely avoiding every question? You're not gonna get to question my position without defining your own. What things, if any do you think are okay for minors to keep from their parents? And are you okay with the current regulations that allow kids to seek treatment for STDs...

@SmilinDesperado, you are one patient mother fucker. Kudos to you, sir. I would have lost my shit long time ago. My head seriously hurts from reading the past few posts in this thread. Imagine not being able to refer to Eliot Page as a dude because of his genitalia. If a girl dyes her hair...

That parental rights aren't absolute and that kids already have some rights to privacy and autonomy. Do you want to remove those too?

I'm not doing the work for you. You made the claim, so you need to back it up with some stats. You also didn't adress a single point that I made.

Your statistics are all fucked up. How much abuse do you think comes from outside, versus within the family? How many trans kids in the Deep South or other ideologically similar areas do you think have parents that will give them shit at for being trans? This has nothing to do with being a...

I don't give a fuck about the parents and their rights, I care about protecting minors. If parents actually communicate with their kids and have a healthy relationship this is a non issue because the kids will tell them long before they tell their teachers. Why are you pretending like this is...

I have not, no. Is it on YouTube?

Protect from what? You think kids are going to be converted to another gender without the parents knowledge?

Exactly, and I would say that this is a good thing.

It was a sex party with around 150 people, not 150 dudes. I'm not THAT gay, bro. Only around 50 of us were engaging in sexy times, most were just hanging out. We've had this conversation before and I still disagree with your view that being sexually promiscuous is an antithetical to being...

How would you not discover that your kid expresses as something other than cis gender though? You'd have to have a pretty distant relationship with your child not to see this happening. Like I said, this isn't done to sneakily convert your kids to a trans way of life. This is done to protect...

My bad, I was running late and wrote that last sentence too quickly and thus worded myself poorly. I meant IF Jesus had spoken on the topic, because I wasn't sure that he had. I remember trying to look it up earlier and not being able to find anything. I didn't mean to imply that he had given...

I remember looking it up earlier and not really getting anywhere. Not that it matters, because unless Jesus himself wrote it down, there are going to be misinterpretations.

I'm pretty sure that this is done to protect trans youth from bigoted parents though. It's really a non issue because if parents have a normal relationship with their kids, the kids will tell them if they're trans. If a kid has bigoted parents who will invalidate their gender identity, this is...