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    The most brutal sub you've ever seen

    Agreed man, was surprised not to see it mentioned- was the first one I thought of alongside Paul Harris. The way she just calmly bent the elbow past the limit then pushed it right the way down was sickening to watch, it was the prolonged time in an unnatural position that was hard to watch...
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    Would you want to see Nick Diaz fight again?

    In the world where he's a professional athlete in a weightclass below LHW. He looked flabby and out of shape beyond doubt. Comparing him to the average couch potato isn't really relevant, is it? Especially when he normally looks in great shape. I was impressed with his ability to throw so...
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    Giga is overrated

    That kind of felt like Bisping was trying to find something to give Barboza, to make the fight not seem like it was going to be completely one sided. Commentators very rarely say straight up that one guy is completely superior, they try and look for an avenue that one guy might be able to hope...
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    Which UFC fighters have respectable boxing?

    Since when has Woodley ever been considered a good boxer? Wtf you guys smoking looool He has a killer overhand right setup by his takedown threat, which works great in MMA- but he's never demonstrated 'good boxing'. Jake was always gonna be the favourite on all metrics for that fight, but that...
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    Usman vs Colby 1 was legendary, cant wait for the rematch

    First two are fine but how do you know colby isn't improving, exactly? I'm not saying you're going to end up being wrong btw, but we haven't seen evidence that colby is going to be far behind usman yet. Its not like he's been losing fights or getting beat up since the usman fight. It's still a...
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    Usman vs Colby 1 was legendary, cant wait for the rematch

    What evidence do you have for that?
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    Was Zhang/Rose an early stoppage?

    First few comments saying this was an early stoppage I truly thought were poking fun at Zhang. How on earth can anyone think that was early? Rogan gave her the opportunity to back down and admit she was out and she refused, you could tell he was a bit embarrassed for her. She was out cold from...
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    Paul vs. Askren Fight Week Megathread (from Heavies please do not merge)

    We had all the same arguments before with Conor being the bigger guy, and anyone that knew anything about boxing knew it was all hype. That's why I focused on the fact he couldn't handle Conor even. The size gap in boxing is immaterial, and even with Floyd being older the skill gap is so vast-...
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    Paul vs. Askren Fight Week Megathread (from Heavies please do not merge)

    That has to be a joke surely I highly doubt either of the Pauls have even a sliver of a chance against Conor in boxing, much less Floyd. Its one thing beating one of the absolute worst boxers in MMA (admittedly still a trained fighter, so a good win)- it's quite another to take on an actual top...
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    Media Jon Jones told the UFC that $8-10 million is "way too low" for the Ngannou fight

    Thats not how things work though. You get paid in team sports based on what you bring to the team- as in how likely are you to help win trophies. For individual tournament based sports like tennis you get paid by how well you do. For PPV based sports like boxing or UFC you get paid according to...
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    The real meaning behind "inactivity" excuse

    That's because Cerrone is even more washed up than Conor, though. Anyone that thought that was a barometer of anything was clueless, not to mention you've got a notoriously slow starter against an explosive 1st round finisher. If Conor never had it though then what does that say about Aldo and...
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    The real meaning behind "inactivity" excuse

    That's absolutely ridiculous. You can definitely make the argument Dustin is more rounded, you could even make the argument he's more skilled. But at best the difference is marginal, and I'd still argue Conor is the better fighter overall. A fresh Conor is a huge problem for anyone at 155 or...
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    Where does Conor being KO'd rank among your most shocking moments in MMA?

    When someone's been taken out twice already in the UFC, in fairly recent memory, it can't be that shocking surely? I expected Conor to win but he certainly wasn't an overwhelming favourite, and the way it went down you could clearly see it coming. If he'd been KO'd Aldo style, in a straight up...
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    Will the Conor fanboys disappear like the Honda ones?

    Eh I enjoyed the fight so I'm absolutely fine. But if you're happy to think I'm crying into my pillow because a UFC fighter lost a fight... whatever floats your boat. To me its way weirder to have this delirium when someone loses, when they've provided nothing but top entertainment win or lose...
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    Pro Conor Thread

    Always gonna appreciate his run. That debut against Brimage, the devastating KO against Aldo, the complete domination of Alvarez- he's certainly been entertaining.
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    Will the Conor fanboys disappear like the Honda ones?

    He literally gave props to all of the fighters he lost to straight away and evaluates what went wrong. If you can't differentiate between him as a fighter and him as a hype man then that's on you, it shouldn't need explaining that a good promoter has to promote themselves. Everyone seemed to...
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    Conor - ‘I’m not beat up and I wasn’t rocked, my leg was just done’

    Don't see what excuses he made? He said Dustin chewed his leg up and that's what did him in, he said the tactic was great and it worked- you could see he couldn't put weight on his leg properly. Why is evaluating what caused your loss always seen as an excuse? Especially when it was clearly...
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    Will the Conor fanboys disappear like the Honda ones?

    Still a fan of both and always will be, although much more a fan of Conor. Respect to him for taking his losses on the chin and moving forward, Ronda was a different case altogether. Regardless they've given some of the most exciting runs of KOs/subs we've seen in the UFC, and have some of the...
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    Undefeated boxing champs laugh at Conor's showing against Mayweather

    He did do well though. He was boxing in his first pro fight, having fought as a MMA fighter his whole career, against arguably the greatest boxer of all time. Sure, Floyd didn't go all out and gave him a little rope, and there was a huge gulf in ability. But Floyd makes most people he fights...
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    Which boxer would've made the best transition to MMA?

    I think HW boxers would have the best chance without question- they have the power and speed to knock people out easily, and the skill level at HW is way lower. At lower weight classes the skill level and athleticism is far higher and would be hard to bridge, Manny and the rest would never be...
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