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  1. jonharrison

    Army reverses course, will consider renaming bases named for Confederate leaders

    It wouldn’t have been unreasonable, though, considering Hoke County is right there, as well. Regardless, I have no problem with them changing the name, the story about those bases’ names being jokes has floated around the military for awhile though. Ft. Ray would be good, but given all the...
  2. jonharrison

    Army reverses course, will consider renaming bases named for Confederate leaders

    True, but any Confederate revisionists in the 1920s pushing for a monument to honor someone from North Carolina would’ve picked Hoke over Bragg because one had a distinguished career, the other “lost the West”. It’s why I still don’t think it was a serious attempt to honor a Confederate, and why...
  3. jonharrison

    Army reverses course, will consider renaming bases named for Confederate leaders

    Once again, could be, but there are tons of Forts named after personnel below Major General.
  4. jonharrison

    Army reverses course, will consider renaming bases named for Confederate leaders

    If I’m completely wrong, why didn’t they name it Ft Hoke? He was a general from North Carolina who actually was competent, handed Grant his biggest defeat, was wounded at Chancellorsville but came back to fight again before the end of the war, and died in North Carolina only six years prior to...
  5. jonharrison

    Army reverses course, will consider renaming bases named for Confederate leaders

    It’s entirely possible that I’m wrong, I’m certainly open to it. In the 1910s-1940s, though, the American Army was still largely influenced by the officer corps that had been Union soldiers in the Civil War. Even guys like Black Jack Pershing who grew up in Missouri, was influenced more by...
  6. jonharrison

    Army reverses course, will consider renaming bases named for Confederate leaders

    I believe it checks just from the perspective of who would ever honor Bragg? Or Hood for that matter? They have been despised by Confederate historians and revisionists forever. The bases were named when there were still living Confederate veterans, so it isn’t like they were named by just...
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    Army reverses course, will consider renaming bases named for Confederate leaders

    Additional research into diaries of Union soldiers has started to yield a better picture of individual soldiers’ motivations, and abolition of slavery is increasingly becoming a primary motivator for the individual Union soldier, even more so than uniting the country, especially as the war went...
  8. jonharrison

    Army reverses course, will consider renaming bases named for Confederate leaders

    There were still Confederate vets who were alive then, however, and certainly their descendants were. It’s a topic they cover at West Point during their Civil War history classes.
  9. jonharrison

    Army reverses course, will consider renaming bases named for Confederate leaders

    That’s just a poor job by the army of continuing to let everyone in on the joke. In the decades after the Civil War those names were a giant kick in the dick to actual Confederate vets, and a source of hilarity to anyone from the North. It’s a shame people forget their history, and miss out on it.
  10. jonharrison

    Army reverses course, will consider renaming bases named for Confederate leaders

    Except it wasn’t. If you read my post above, those are Confederate generals who were “honored” by having bases named after them due to their service to the Union, as a result of their poor performance for the Confederacy. It’s been a joke that Union commanders have played for 150 years. It’s...
  11. jonharrison

    Army reverses course, will consider renaming bases named for Confederate leaders

    I don’t think people understand why those names are great. They are not only named after some of the biggest failures of the Confederacy, but many are located in the spots that those generals were defeated. Those names are a gigantic, hilarious, middle finger to the South and the Confederacy by...
  12. jonharrison

    The Disturbing Appeal of Boogaloo Violence to Military Men

    Thread title is misleading, I don’t know a single other member of the military who is a member of that movement. Obviously the military as a whole is large, but as fringe as that group is for civilians, it is equally, if not more, fringe for service members.
  13. jonharrison

    Social "Systemic Racism"

    Any sort of reparations would have to target individuals. You mention repairing black communities, but any sort of reparations that targets large black communities, but ignores individual black families in predominantly white communities, is inherently unfair. The only way forward is through...
  14. jonharrison

    Social "Systemic Racism"

    So what value do you place on it? How valuable were those lives lost? How valuable was it to those slaves that they were freed in 1865 as opposed to 1890? 1920? 1960? What value is that worth? Is a couple thousand dollars in reparations worth more than their lives? The path forward needs to...
  15. jonharrison

    Social "Systemic Racism"

    All of this is irrelevant to my point. Was it wrong to have legalized slavery prior to 1865? Absolutely. Attitudes changed, however, and by 1865 it can’t be denied that abolition was a prominent motivation for the Union. What war is ever fought for purely selfless reasons? Hell WW2 wasn’t fought...
  16. jonharrison

    Social "Systemic Racism"

    I’m still very much of the belief that reparations were already paid. The men of the Union army who died on the battlefields of Gettysburg, Antietam, Shiloh, Chattanooga, etc. were the price. 360,000 men gave their lives in some of the most horrific warfare ever conducted under the US flag, in...
  17. jonharrison

    International Russia Now Has At Least 14 Combat Jets In Libya As Satellite Images Reveal New Details

    Well, if countries like Russia and China are able to expand, utilizing their newly acquired positions in the Med, Africa, the Middle East, and South East Asia, they have better leverage in trade agreements. As that leverage increases, their position becomes more tenable, the US’s becomes more...
  18. jonharrison

    International Russia Now Has At Least 14 Combat Jets In Libya As Satellite Images Reveal New Details

    Look, I get the point you’re trying to make, but if Russia is allowed to control the Med, it will hurt the United States. Allowing Europe to become dependent on Russia just because they act snooty towards the US is cutting off our nose to spite our face.
  19. jonharrison

    International Russia Now Has At Least 14 Combat Jets In Libya As Satellite Images Reveal New Details

    I think the US will lose its prestige on the world’s stage. I think our access to markets and resources outside our own borders will become limited, which will also limit our economic ambitions. I believe our national security will suffer. Essentially we will become economically weak, in a...
  20. jonharrison

    International Russia Now Has At Least 14 Combat Jets In Libya As Satellite Images Reveal New Details

    It’s not about Russia threatening US warships, it’s about them destabilizing Europe economically. They are putting themselves into a position where they can control the flow of oil and economic goods from the Indian Ocean to Europe. Our sphere of influence is weakened when Europe is weak, and...
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