Economy 12 Years and $34 Billion Later, Canada's Trans Mountain Pipeline Expansion Is Set To Complete.

So they approved it, but will this ever get finished? Literally 100 different tribes that need to fleece the government before more construction can take place on their lands. This will be up and down supreme court for years.

Was this even a good investment? Will there even be this huge demand for our diluted bitumen in Asia? China is pissed at Canada ATM, and before that they only wanted to buy it at the same discount we gave the Americans. India's fuel demand showing signs of flattening out. Mexico and Venezuela are getting around the same price for their heavy oil, and they don't have some of those added costs we do. Their production has been on the decline...

What I think may have happened here was that Kinder Morgan conned the Liberal government. Now the government is going to con some indigenous groups. Last one standing when the music stops gets fucked.
 
Indigenous ownership of Trans Mountain moves closer to reality
Chris Varcoe, Calgary Herald | June 22, 2019

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Chief Michael LeBourdais, of the Whispering Pines/Clinton Indian Band.

Imagine First Nations across Western Canada being able to buy the lion’s share of the Trans Mountain pipeline from the federal government.

Now, imagine it builds greater acceptance for the project.

Finally, imagine the ownership generates $250 million a year for First Nations and Metis communities, with some of that money used to create a sovereign wealth fund capable of buying additional infrastructure assets.

During a presentation at the Calgary Petroleum Club on Thursday, leaders of Project Reconciliation laid out an ambitious plan to acquire Trans Mountain.

The discussion came less than 48 hours after the Trudeau government re-approved the pipeline’s expansion, while confirming Ottawa would consider selling up to 100 per cent of the development to Indigenous-led groups.

“It’s time. If not now, when?” Project Reconciliation chairman Delbert Wapass, former chief of the Thunderchild First Nation in Saskatchewan, said at the Petroleum Joint Venture Association event.

At least three separate groups have formed that want to buy a piece of Trans Mountain.

It’s not hard to see the powerful economic potential this step could unlock, creating jobs, lifting communities out of poverty and building stronger, more enduring support for the venture.

“This project could be a real kick-off point for our industry,” said Tamarack Valley Energy CEO Brian Schmidt, who spoke at the event.

The idea of First Nations acquiring part of the Edmonton-to-Burnaby oil pipeline has gained momentum since the Trudeau government acquired the pipeline for $4.5 billion from Kinder Morgan last year.

Finance Minister Bill Morneau insists the enterprise will be sold back to the private sector once the expansion project — costing more than $7.4 billion — is substantially built.

Construction could restart as early as September.

The federal government will launch discussions this summer with Indigenous groups that want to talk about “economic participation” in the project.

Government officials will hold meetings in Edmonton, Kamloops, Vancouver and Victoria, in July and August with interested parties.

“We will want Indigenous communities to be part of the discussion,” Natural Resources Minister Amarjeet Sohi said in an interview.

“We are not going to pick one or two, or pick one over the other. We are going to do that in a co-developmental way … to ensure that they develop the path for equity.”

Groups like Project Reconciliation, Alberta-led Iron Coalition and the Western Indigenous Pipeline Group in British Columbia all want to be at the table.

Chief Michael LeBourdais of the Whispering Pines/Clinton Indian Band, who is also chair of the B.C. group, is pleased the expansion is moving ahead.

He noted Whispering Pines, located north of Kamloops and along the pipeline route, expressed interest in acquiring an ownership position several years ago in discussions with the Harper government and Kinder Morgan.

“Equity would gives us continued environmental oversight on the whole project … give our group of people here — and other First Nations along the right of way that have title and rights — the comfort that the pipeline will be operated in a safe manner,” LeBourdais said in an interview.

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Grand Chief Stewart Phillip during a press conference at Union of BC Indian Chiefs office in Vancouver, B.C., September 8, 2014.


Some First Nations in B.C. adamantly oppose the project.

Each has the right to engage in discussions about ownership, but that won’t alter the resolve of the environmental opposition to Trans Mountain, said Grand Chief Stewart Phillip, president of the Union of B.C. Indian Chiefs.

“There are just as many and more First Nation communities that are vehemently opposed to the project because of the threat it represents to the environment,” said Phillip, a critic of Trans Mountain.

In Alberta, the recently formed Iron Coalition is on a membership drive, inviting First Nations and Metis communities across the province to join up.

As part of its plan, Iron Coalition wants to redistribute all profits to member communities.

If the ownership model works, it could be used in other developments across the country, said Chief Tony Alexis of the Alexis Nakota Sioux Nation and co-chair of the group.

“Being at the table is really important. Indigenous people for a long time have always been outside,” he said Wednesday.

“But we are in a position right now where we can get ourselves to the table, position ourselves so that we are fulfilling and looking at the future of our communities.”

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Chief Tony Alexis, Alexis Nakota Sioux Nation during a press conference at Dr. Martha Cohen School in Calgary on Tuesday October 24, 2017.


At its presentation in Calgary, Project Reconciliation leaders provided details of their plan, noting any First Nations from B.C., Alberta or Saskatchewan could own a stake, although those along the route would have a bigger slice.

Managing director Steve Mason expects the project to generate about $250 million a year in funds available for redistribution, with 20 per cent dispersed immediately to the owners.

The remainder would go into a sovereign wealth fund that would be invested in other energy infrastructure, such as power plants or electrical transmission lines.

Mason said the group would be willing to pay $2.3 billion for a 51 per cent stake in Trans Mountain — based on the price Ottawa paid last year — and its “ask” of government would be a temporary federal loan guarantee, although banks would finance it.

In British Columbia, LeBourdais said he could see the B.C. group working with Iron Coalition in Alberta, as the Trans Mountain pipeline runs between the two provinces.

“We live here. This is our valley, this is our river, these are our salmon. So the risks are different for us. The risks are greater,” he added.

It’s expected the pipeline will take at least 30 months to build, which means the ownership conversation with Ottawa could take a couple of years to conclude.

The process is only beginning.

With the expansion project getting the green light, however, the idea of Indigenous ownership of Trans Mountain has taken another step forward, from imagination to becoming reality.

https://calgaryherald.com/business/...hip-of-trans-mountain-moves-closer-to-reality
 
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Indigenous ownership of Trans Mountain moves closer to reality
Chris Varcoe, Calgary Herald | June 22, 2019

chief-michael-lebourdais-1.jpg

Chief Michael LeBourdais, of the Whispering Pines/Clinton Indian Band.

Imagine First Nations across Western Canada being able to buy the lion’s share of the Trans Mountain pipeline from the federal government.

Now, imagine it builds greater acceptance for the project.

Finally, imagine the ownership generates $250 million a year for First Nations and Metis communities, with some of that money used to create a sovereign wealth fund capable of buying additional infrastructure assets.

During a presentation at the Calgary Petroleum Club on Thursday, leaders of Project Reconciliation laid out an ambitious plan to acquire Trans Mountain.

The discussion came less than 48 hours after the Trudeau government re-approved the pipeline’s expansion, while confirming Ottawa would consider selling up to 100 per cent of the development to Indigenous-led groups.

“It’s time. If not now, when?” Project Reconciliation chairman Delbert Wapass, former chief of the Thunderchild First Nation in Saskatchewan, said at the Petroleum Joint Venture Association event.

At least three separate groups have formed that want to buy a piece of Trans Mountain.

It’s not hard to see the powerful economic potential this step could unlock, creating jobs, lifting communities out of poverty and building stronger, more enduring support for the venture.

“This project could be a real kick-off point for our industry,” said Tamarack Valley Energy CEO Brian Schmidt, who spoke at the event.

The idea of First Nations acquiring part of the Edmonton-to-Burnaby oil pipeline has gained momentum since the Trudeau government acquired the pipeline for $4.5 billion from Kinder Morgan last year.

Finance Minister Bill Morneau insists the enterprise will be sold back to the private sector once the expansion project — costing more than $7.4 billion — is substantially built.

Construction could restart as early as September.

The federal government will launch discussions this summer with Indigenous groups that want to talk about “economic participation” in the project.

Government officials will hold meetings in Edmonton, Kamloops, Vancouver and Victoria, in July and August with interested parties.

“We will want Indigenous communities to be part of the discussion,” Natural Resources Minister Amarjeet Sohi said in an interview.

“We are not going to pick one or two, or pick one over the other. We are going to do that in a co-developmental way … to ensure that they develop the path for equity.”

Groups like Project Reconciliation, Alberta-led Iron Coalition and the Western Indigenous Pipeline Group in British Columbia all want to be at the table.

Chief Michael LeBourdais of the Whispering Pines/Clinton Indian Band, who is also chair of the B.C. group, is pleased the expansion is moving ahead.

He noted Whispering Pines, located north of Kamloops and along the pipeline route, expressed interest in acquiring an ownership position several years ago in discussions with the Harper government and Kinder Morgan.

“Equity would gives us continued environmental oversight on the whole project … give our group of people here — and other First Nations along the right of way that have title and rights — the comfort that the pipeline will be operated in a safe manner,” LeBourdais said in an interview.

1126-na-hutch.jpg

Grand Chief Stewart Phillip during a press conference at Union of BC Indian Chiefs office in Vancouver, B.C., September 8, 2014.


Some First Nations in B.C. adamantly oppose the project.

Each has the right to engage in discussions about ownership, but that won’t alter the resolve of the environmental opposition to Trans Mountain, said Grand Chief Stewart Phillip, president of the Union of B.C. Indian Chiefs.

“There are just as many and more First Nation communities that are vehemently opposed to the project because of the threat it represents to the environment,” said Phillip, a critic of Trans Mountain.

In Alberta, the recently formed Iron Coalition is on a membership drive, inviting First Nations and Metis communities across the province to join up.

As part of its plan, Iron Coalition wants to redistribute all profits to member communities.

If the ownership model works, it could be used in other developments across the country, said Chief Tony Alexis of the Alexis Nakota Sioux Nation and co-chair of the group.

“Being at the table is really important. Indigenous people for a long time have always been outside,” he said Wednesday.

“But we are in a position right now where we can get ourselves to the table, position ourselves so that we are fulfilling and looking at the future of our communities.”

0611_fm_opinion-fm.jpg

Chief Tony Alexis, Alexis Nakota Sioux Nation during a press conference at Dr. Martha Cohen School in Calgary on Tuesday October 24, 2017.


At its presentation in Calgary, Project Reconciliation leaders provided details of their plan, noting any First Nations from B.C., Alberta or Saskatchewan could own a stake, although those along the route would have a bigger slice.

Managing director Steve Mason expects the project to generate about $250 million a year in funds available for redistribution, with 20 per cent dispersed immediately to the owners.

The remainder would go into a sovereign wealth fund that would be invested in other energy infrastructure, such as power plants or electrical transmission lines.

Mason said the group would be willing to pay $2.3 billion for a 51 per cent stake in Trans Mountain — based on the price Ottawa paid last year — and its “ask” of government would be a temporary federal loan guarantee, although banks would finance it.

In British Columbia, LeBourdais said he could see the B.C. group working with Iron Coalition in Alberta, as the Trans Mountain pipeline runs between the two provinces.

“We live here. This is our valley, this is our river, these are our salmon. So the risks are different for us. The risks are greater,” he added.

It’s expected the pipeline will take at least 30 months to build, which means the ownership conversation with Ottawa could take a couple of years to conclude.

The process is only beginning.

With the expansion project getting the green light, however, the idea of Indigenous ownership of Trans Mountain has taken another step forward, from imagination to becoming reality.

https://calgaryherald.com/business/...hip-of-trans-mountain-moves-closer-to-reality

Sell it to a god damn teachers union in Quebec for all I care just put some fucking pipe in the dirt already.

At the end of the day that $250,000,000 will vanish into the pockets of chiefs wearing $600 Stetsons and driving a $90,000 pick up truck back to his off reserve home while his people live in burnt out sea cans. Just like the billions of dollars they get from the federal government yearly.

But I still don't give a shit, just build it.
 
Sell it to a god damn teachers union in Quebec for all I care just put some fucking pipe in the dirt already.

At the end of the day that $250,000,000 will vanish into the pockets of chiefs wearing $600 Stetsons and driving a $90,000 pick up truck back to his off reserve home while his people live in burnt out sea cans. Just like the billions of dollars they get from the federal government yearly.

But I still don't give a shit, just build it.

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At the end of the day that $250,000,000 will vanish into the pockets of chiefs wearing $600 Stetsons and driving a $90,000 pick up truck back to his off reserve home while his people live in burnt out sea cans.

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Canada’s Indigenous pipe dream might end Trudeau’s Trans Mountain nightmare
By Nia Williams and Rod Nickel Reuters | July 2, 2019​

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An Indigenous-led group plans to offer to buy a majority stake in the Trans Mountain oil pipeline from the Canadian government this week or next, a deal that could help Prime Minister Justin Trudeau mitigate election-year criticism from environmentalists.

The group, called Project Reconciliation, aims to submit the $6.9 billion offer as early as Friday, managing director Stephen Mason told Reuters, and start negotiations with Ottawa two weeks later.

Project Reconciliation said the investment will alleviate First Nations poverty, a watershed for Indigenous people who have historically watched Canada’s resources enrich others.

Expansion would triple capacity of the pipeline carrying crude from Alberta to British Columbia’s coast, helping resuscitate an industry depressed by low prices and congested pipelines.

Trudeau’s government, which bought the pipeline last year after its owner, Kinder Morgan Canada, gave up on trying to get the expansion approved, has already been touting First Nations participation. A deal ahead of an October election could ease criticism from voters who have complained of broken promises on the environment and aboriginal rights.

Still, not all First Nations groups are on board. Some in British Columbia have pledged to keep fighting expansion of Trans Mountain, even with blockades and protests, saying ownership makes no difference to the risk of oil leaks.

“The greatest hope the government can have is they neutralize this topic. Imagine if a multinational gets ownership of the pipeline, or an Indigenous consortium. The Indigenous (option) is way less provocative,” said Ken Coates, professor of public policy at University of Saskatchewan.

When Trudeau approved the pipeline in June, he said his government would immediately consult Indigenous communities on how they can benefit, including potentially buying the pipeline.

Mason declined to say how many communities support Project Reconciliation.
“There is a vocal minority (against the project). The majority are in favor especially if they have material ownership and a place at the table that allows them to be involved with environmental aspects,” Mason said. “If we own it, chances are we can quiet down the opposition.”

Project Reconciliation hopes to buy 51% of the pipeline this year for $2.3 billion and roughly half the expansion project for $4.6 billion. It would finance the deal through bank loans underwritten by commitments from oil shippers. The government would retain 49 percent.

Once expansion is complete, it intends to invest C$200 million of annual proceeds into an Indigenous sovereign wealth fund.

“We have conversations about climate change. But tell me at what level climate change is a discussion when we have a lot of our people who are starving,” Delbert Wapass, Project Reconciliation’s executive chairman told a packed crowd at Calgary’s Petroleum Club.

For and against

Indigenous people who support buying Trans Mountain say it offers a rare opportunity to own money-making oil infrastructure.

Before Chief Tony Alexis was born, Trans Mountain was built underground on Alexis Nakota Sioux Nation traditional land near Edmonton, Alberta, where the pipeline starts.

In the 66 years since, the community has received no benefits, Chief Alexis said, only risk. Now it could cash in.

“Our people have been ready to be in business for a long time,” Alexis said. “If we do this right, this is going to be a template for the future.”

Alexis is part of Iron Coalition, another Indigenous group seeking to buy between half and 100% of the pipeline once it is built in 2022. It is discussing options with banks and plans to direct future profits to Alberta Indigenous groups that join.

At the other end of the pipeline 1,150 kilometers (715 miles) away, British Columbia Indigenous communities are digging in for a fight.

“Our sacred obligation is that we are stewards of this land, this water and our people,” said Chief Leah George-Wilson of Tsleil-Waututh First Nation, based along Burrard Inlet opposite Westridge Marine Terminal where Trans Mountain ends.

Tsleil-Waututh plans to appeal Trudeau’s approval of Trans Mountain’s expansion over concerns about spills and tanker traffic, George-Wilson said.

Coates, the University of Saskatchewan professor, said Indigenous participation in the pipeline could allow Trudeau’s Liberals to retain more urban votes that will be critical to the election’s outcome.

The government is already promoting Trans Mountain as a means to improve aboriginal lives.

https://globalnews.ca/news/5454562/indigenous-trans-mountain-bid/
 
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Poll says 54% of Canadians support the Trans Mountain oil pipeline expansion
By Alex Ballingall Ottawa Bureau | July 10, 2019​

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A slim majority of Canadians support the expansion of the government-owned Trans Mountain oil pipeline — including in British Columbia — while a third want to see the controversial project abandoned, according to a new poll.

The survey from Forum Research found 54 per cent of respondents across the country support the multibillion dollar pipeline expansion, which would almost triple the amount of oil carried alongside the existing Trans Mountain route from Edmonton to Burnaby, B.C., and lead to a sevenfold increase in oil tanker traffic through B.C.’s Salish Sea.

More than a third of respondents — 35 per cent — said they “strongly” support this project, while 20 per cent said they “somewhat” support it.

On the other side, 23 per cent of respondents said they “strongly” oppose the project, and 12 per cent are “somewhat” opposed.

Ten per cent of respondents said they don’t know whether they oppose or support the project.

Lorne Bozinoff, president of Forum Research, pointed to high support for the project in the Prairies — with 82 per cent of Alberta respondents backing the project, for example — but said that is not likely to translate to votes for the governing Liberals. Even though Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s cabinet decided to buy the pipeline for $4.5 billion to ensure it gets built, and reapproved the project after a court-imposed delay last month, Forum Research and other pollsters consistently survey high levels of support for the opposition Conservatives in the region.

Instead, Bozinoff said the prominence of heated opposition to the pipeline in B.C. might mask a quiet cohort of support for the project that could favour the Liberals in the coming election. While more than a quarter of respondents from the province — 28 per cent — said they strongly oppose the project, 57 per cent said they support it.

“Those that are opposed to it in B.C., they really don’t like it,” Bozinoff said. “But I think there may have been that silent minority that was probably OK with it, and the Liberals may be aligning themselves with that group.”

The only region in the poll where more respondents opposed the pipeline than backed it was Quebec, where 39 per cent said they strongly oppose the expansion — the highest of all regions — and 11 per cent were somewhat opposed.

Bozinoff said his firm’s polling has shown a higher preoccupation with environmental issues in Quebec, as a recent poll suggested the environment is now a top concern for voters heading into the federal election campaign.

“Sometimes there are these societal shifts going on,” Bozinoff said. “Something like that may be happening in Quebec, but to a greater extent.”

The Liberal government first approved the Trans Mountain expansion in 2016, when the existing system was owned by Kinder Morgan, a major American oil and gas company. In the face of court challenges from Indigenous and environmental groups opposed to the project, the company sold the pipeline to the federal government last year. Months later, the top court in B.C. quashed the approval for the pipeline, ruling that consultations with Indigenous peoples fell short and that the regulatory review process didn’t account for the impact of increased tanker traffic on imperilled marine life like southern resident orcas.

Ottawa launched a fresh round of consultations with 129 Indigenous groups and ordered a new assessment of environmental impacts, which concluded the project would have significant adverse effects but that the expansion is still in the national public interest. The Liberal cabinet agreed, and reapproved the project with a list of conditions and added precautions on June 18.

The government claims the project will create thousands of “solid, middle class jobs” and help companies in Alberta sell oil overseas for higher prices.

In its quarterly monetary report on Wednesday, the Bank of Canada said the expansion approval is a “positive development” for Alberta’s oil and gas industry that has been battered by a drop in investment and a low price for oil in recent years. The central bank noted, however, that investment in the sector is expected to drop through the rest of the year and bring the level of investment to about 20 per cent lower than it was in 2017, and 50 per cent lower than between 2014 and 2016.

The bank said consultations with the sector suggest transportation constraints and production limits imposed in Alberta to shore up the price of oil “continue to weigh heavily” in Western Canada and are limiting the industry’s access to credit.

Meanwhile, environmental groups and First Nations have launched new court challenges seeking to quash the government’s decision to reapprove the expansion project.

Construction is expected to begin this summer.

https://www.thestar.com/politics/fe...he-trans-mountain-oil-pipeline-expansion.html
 
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Da fuq, Quebec is being a bitch again....

Trans Mountain pipeline: Quebec government seeks intervenor status for Supreme Court argument
Kevin Gould, CTV Montreal | July 13, 2019

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The Quebec government wants to speak before the Supreme Court of Canada in the legal battle concerning British Columbia's jurisdiction over the Trans Mountain pipeline.

The NDP government of British Columbia has gone to court to try to stop the pipeline running from Alberta to the Pacific Coast, but lost at the BC Court of Appeal in May.

The Court of Appeal ruled that the federal government had the constitutional right to authorize the expansion and operation of the interprovincial pipeline.

British Columbia is appealing that decision before the Supreme Court.

Quebec Justice Minister Sonia LeBel said that the Quebec government will support British Columbia in its fight concerning constitutional powers, even if this province does not want to be involved in the pipeline battle.

"Quebec is not directly involved in this conflict, yet it is an opportunity for us to defend constitutional principles," said Lebel.

Lebel is promoting the argument that British Columbia can stop the pipeline based on the division of powers between the Federal government and provincial governments.

Alberta is also seeking intervenor status, arguing the federal government can impose the pipeline on the provinces.

https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/trans-m...r-status-for-supreme-court-argument-1.4506739
 
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Alberta intervenes in B.C. appeal to stop Trans Mountain pipeline expansion
Tiffany Crawford | July 12, 2019​



Alberta will intervene in B.C.’s appeal to the Supreme Court of Canada to stop the Trans Mountain oil pipeline expansion.

In a government news release Friday, Alberta says it will make its case for the court to uphold the B.C. Court of Appeal’s May 24 decision that ruled the federal government has sole jurisdiction over interprovincial infrastructure projects.

B.C. then appealed to the SCOC to review proposed legislation — which the B.C. Court of Appeal ruled unconstitutional — to restrict the flow of oilsands bitumen into B.C. on environmental grounds.

“The B.C. Court of Appeal’s unanimous decision was clear. B.C. does not have constitutional authority to block cross-provincial projects in the national interest,” said Alberta Premier Jason Kenney in a statement Friday.

“Alberta will always stand up for the rule of law. The actions of the British Columbia government not only target Alberta’s economy by landlocking our energy resources, but also undermine our recent attempts towards co-operative federalism and free trade within Canada.”



B.C. Premier John Horgan has vowed to continue to fight against the Trans Mountain pipeline expansion, which the federal government gave another green light to last month. A plan to twin the existing pipeline from near Edmonton to Burnaby will triple capacity to 890,000 barrels a day.

B.C. has maintained an oil spill on the ocean from increased tanker traffic would be catastrophic.

Alberta has already passed a law allowing it to cut existing oil shipments to B.C. in retaliation. B.C. is also challenging that law in court.

https://vancouversun.com/news/local...eal-to-stop-trans-mountain-pipeline-expansion
 
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Trans Mountain pipeline: Quebec government seeks intervenor status for Supreme Court argument
Kevin Gould, CTV Montreal | July 13, 2019

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The Quebec government wants to speak before the Supreme Court of Canada in the legal battle concerning British Columbia's jurisdiction over the Trans Mountain pipeline.

The NDP government of British Columbia has gone to court to try to stop the pipeline running from Alberta to the Pacific Coast, but lost at the BC Court of Appeal in May.

The Court of Appeal ruled that the federal government had the constitutional right to authorize the expansion and operation of the interprovincial pipeline.

British Columbia is appealing that decision before the Supreme Court.

Quebec Justice Minister Sonia LeBel said that the Quebec government will support British Columbia in its fight concerning constitutional powers, even if this province does not want to be involved in the pipeline battle.

"Quebec is not directly involved in this conflict, yet it is an opportunity for us to defend constitutional principles," said Lebel.

Lebel is promoting the argument that British Columbia can stop the pipeline based on the division of powers between the Federal government and provincial governments.

Alberta is also seeking intervenor status, arguing the federal government can impose the pipeline on the provinces.

https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/trans-m...r-status-for-supreme-court-argument-1.4506739

Oh for heaven's sake this horse has been beaten to death already in the courts. The feds have ultimate authority over infrastructure projects crossing provincial borders. And Quebec and it's corrupt politicians can go fuck itself.
 
I didn't see this in the OP and it's only of tertiary relevance, but I'll drop it. This was quite interesting in the face of the arguments that oil tankers pose a risk to marine life - whales in particular.

Short version:
- The argument is often made that oil tankers pose a risk to marine life, with orcas (killer whales) being the poster-children for this
- Report comes out that BC ferries are responsible for noise pollution that is detrimental to the whales, whose populations are declining, and that ferries produce over 50% of all of that noise pollution. Tankers account for roughly 1% of this harmful noise pollution. The whales are losing about 5.5 hours per day of foraging time due to this noise which is, again, mostly caused by BC ferries.
- BC government wants to increase ferries, not decrease them, citing how important connecting coastal communities is.
- (my note, not in articles) Tourism is not cited, but the ferries are integral to BC tourism as well as local communities. Since a huge part of this is about protecting local wildlife, why no uproar? Why not demands to cut back ferry services? Why isn't the government moving on this immediately rather than giving excuses to save/make money? Why did I have to hear this from a friend who works in oil rather than see it plastered all over headlines like the pipeline issue is?

"B.C.’s ferry services, whale watching threaten endangered whales, National Energy Board says

The B.C. government will continue with plans to expand its ferry routes even though the National Energy Board concluded last week that ship noise, including that generated by BC Ferries, is threatening the endangered southern resident killer whales.

The NEB is recommending noise reduction measures for the B.C. government’s ferry fleet to help offset the impact on the endangered whales of increased oil tanker traffic associated with the Trans Mountain pipeline expansion.

But the B.C. government says connecting coastal communities is more important than shipping more Alberta oil through the Salish Sea.

“Transportation for British Columbian communities is paramount,” B.C. Environment Minister George Heyman said in an interview Monday.

The B.C. government opposes the Trans Mountain pipeline project because of the increase in oil tanker traffic, saying the risk of a catastrophic oil spill is too high – for the whales and the rest of the marine environment.

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The southern resident killer whales (SRKW) are in decline because of starvation, pollution and underwater noise from ships. The NEB, in its reconsideration of the pipeline project, cited research that estimated that the whales lose about five hours of foraging time each day because of marine noise – mostly from passenger ferries, but also from tug boats and whale watching vessels.

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“Ferry routes contribute the greatest inputs into the cumulative noise maps of the Salish Sea, with additional seasonal routes added during the summer when SRKWs use the area for foraging,” the report notes.

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BC Ferries averages 470 trips per day – more than 170,000 sailings each year – connecting coastal communities. On the same day the NEB report was released, the B.C. government announced it is increasing service on 10 ferry routes that were cut in 2014, restoring 2,700 round trips for coastal communities.


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A long-term plan to reduce underwater noise was tabled last summer, but BC Ferries warns that change will be slow. “Each new class of ship we build is generally quieter than the ships before it,” the report says. “This is going to be a long process. We build our ships to operate for decades, more than 50 years in some cases. New, quieter ships will therefore arrive gradually in the Salish Sea."



https://www.theglobeandmail.com/can.../+Media&utm_campaign=Shared+Web+Article+Links

Not only are they expanding the ferries, but their plan to reduce noise mentions keeping the boats doing damage until they replace them - and they say these boats are made to last 50 years.


Also, this is an article from the Calgary Herald which puts this in comparative perspective:

"The NEB refers to another report that says the foraging time for the orca pod as a result of noise is reduced by up to 5.5 hours per day. B.C. Ferries account for 52 to 67 per cent of lost foraging time due to noise and tug boats account for 12 to 27 per cent. And, oil tankers make up just one per cent of that lost foraging time."


https://calgaryherald.com/news/loca...-killer-whales-much-more-than-tmx-oil-tankers

I have mixed feelings about pipelines, but this just reeks of "What you want is too risky, but what we want is an acceptable risk" when it's not even close to clear that's the case. It seems a lot like BC wants to protect the whales as long as they don't have to give up much to do so - but they're just fine making Alberta, and the rest of Canada, make significant sacrifices towards that end. It also puts the bragging about tourism of that guy who got chased out of the thread into perspective...

I was born in BC and grew up there but I don't live there any more. Watching this whole thing unfold has given me a lot of think about concerning the snobbery of the people living in the lower mainland and their willingness to have other people sacrifice for what they want. The next time I visit I may have trouble keeping my mouth shut on this issue, should it come up.

Also, @Arkain2K - my apologies if this was included. I have a ton of respect for your comprehensive posting style. If it's there, I just missed it - sorry!
 
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Oh for heaven's sake this horse has been beaten to death already in the courts. The feds have ultimate authority over infrastructure projects crossing provincial borders. And Quebec and it's corrupt politicians can go fuck itself.

May be that's what should be said at the Premiers summit:


Quebec is driving Western alienation
BY BRIAN LILLEY | JUL 11, 2019

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The closing of the annual premiers meeting turned into a question about national unity.

Quebec was at the centre of it but not as the province feeling it might be time to leave.

Instead, it was Quebec Premier Francois Legault talking about the lack of “social acceptability” for an oil pipeline versus Saskatechewan’s Scott Moe and Alberta’s Jason Kenney.

Moe had previously said national unity was being threatened by a lack of respect for Western Canadian resources. When other premiers were asked to respond, all but Kenney said national unity was strong.

“The level of frustration and alienation that exists in Alberta towards Ottawa and the federation is, I believe, at its highest level,” Kenney said.

That frustration is being driven by provinces like British Columbia and Quebec blocking pipelines.

While the Trans Mountain Pipeline remains before the courts, Quebec Premier Francois Legault has declared a virtual veto on new pipelines for his province even as he pushes for a natural gas pipeline to support an LNG export port in Northern Quebec.

“There’s no social acceptability in Quebec,” Legault said regarding oil pipelines.

It’s an interesting concept that Quebec must accept an oil pipeline given that the constitution clearly says issues like pipelines are a federal jurisdiction and Quebec is all about fighting for what the constitution says about jurisdiction.

So I asked Legault, why is a pipeline not socially acceptable to his province but taking equalization payments generated by oil in Alberta and Saskatchewan socially acceptable.

Legault’s long and rambling answer can be summed up as him saying that the current system allows equalization and he wishes his province didn’t have to take it.

He never did say why the oil is unacceptable but the oil money is.

Alberta Premier Jason Kenney was blunt.

“If you’re not willing to take our resources, why are you willing to accept the money that comes from them?” Kenney asked.

That’s a question Legault needs to be pushed on again and again.

The real answer if you ask anyone in Western Canada right now is that transfer payments are unacceptable, at least until a pipeline is built.

That said, Legault wants to be able to sell his province’s surplus hydroelectricity using the idea of a national energy corridor. He’s pushed Ontario Premier Doug Ford to buy that hydro over and over again, including at this meeting.

He’s all about shipping energy across the country — his.

Legault will also accept a liquefied natural gas pipeline that will run to an LNG port in northern Quebec.

“I support the project of a gas pipeline,” Legault said.

That double standard there is a big part of what is driving Western alienation and it isn’t found just in Quebec, it’s found on Parliament Hill.

The Trudeau government approved that natural gas pipeline through Quebec without putting it through the same stringent climate change rules they imposed on Energy East.

That, my friends, is what is driving the frustration you can feel in this part of the country.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/lilley-quebec-is-driving-western-alienation/amp
 
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Liberals launch next phase of engagement with Indigenous groups over Trans Mountain pipeline
Finance Minister Bill Morneau says all communities along the route will have opportunity to participate
CBC News · Posted: Aug 09, 2019

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The federal government has launched a new phase of engagement with Indigenous groups on the Trans Mountain pipeline expansion project.

In a news release Friday, Finance Minister Bill Morneau said the process will tap potential Indigenous groups interested in participating economically on the project. He also announced that Linda Coady, former chief sustainability officer for Enbridge, will will chair an advisory committee of experts.

"The Trans Mountain Expansion Project presents a real economic opportunity for Canadians and for Indigenous communities," Morneau said in a statement.

"With the approval of the project, we can begin discussions with the many communities that may be interested in becoming partners in getting Canada's natural resources to market. Our government looks forward to moving the project forward in a way that reflects our commitment to reconciliation."

The National Energy Board issued a certificate for the Trans Mountain pipeline expansion on June 21, just days after it was approved by the federal government.

At the time, Ian Anderson, CEO of the Crown corporation building the pipeline expansion, said shovels could be in the ground by September and oil could be flowing in the new pipeline by mid 2022.

The 1,150-kilometre expansion project would double the potential amount of oil that could travel along the existing route from Alberta to the B.C. coast.

Indigenous groups express interest

After many delays and a successful court challenge, the federal government bought the project for $4.5 billion last year, with the plan to sell it to a private company.

When the government approved the project June 18, several Indigenous groups expressed interest in partnering in the project.

According to the release from Morneau's office, all communities along the pipeline route will have an opportunity to participate.

Last month, the minister sent letters to the 129 potentially impacted Indigenous communities. The government has also invited Indigenous groups to participate in talks that will take place in Ottawa, Victoria, Vancouver, Kamloops, and Edmonton this month.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trans-mountain-pipeline-indigenous-engagement-1.5242524
 
Environmental activists’ latest attempt to block Trans Mountain pipeline targets insurance coverage
Activist coalition sent a letter to 27 companies registered to insure the pipeline asking them to drop coverage by August 31
By Valerie Volcovici | August 8, 201

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A coalition of 32 environmental and Indigenous groups on Thursday urged insurers to stop underwriting the Trans Mountain pipeline to pressure Canada to cancel its plan to expand the project which carries crude from Alberta’s oilsands to British Columbia’s Pacific coast.

Self-insurance by the government for the expansion would cost taxpayers US$1.1 billion, the groups said. Pressure is growing for financial companies to pull back from insuring and investing in polluting industries like coal and oil as part of an effort to combat climate change.

The coalition sent a letter to 27 companies registered to insure the pipeline, including Munich RE, Talanx and Zurich Insurance Group AG, asking them to drop their coverage before Aug. 31, the deadline for Canada to renew its liability insurance.

The groups said they hope the pressure “will show the Canadian government that the expansion is uninsurable.”

The Canadian government bought the pipeline from Kinder Morgan to help solve crude transportation bottlenecks for landlocked Albertan crude. Environmental activists say the project will undermine Canada’s commitment to reduce greenhouse gas emissions 70 per cent below 2005 levels by 2030 under the Paris climate agreement.

“Providing insurance services to a project that would allow exponential growth of the oilsands, effectively removing any remaining chance of Canada staying within the goals of the Paris climate change agreement, would critically undermine the continued viability of your industry,” the groups told the insurers in the joint letter.

The activist groups include Stand.Earth, the Union of BC Indian Chiefs, German NGO Urgewald, the Rainforest Action Network and Greenpeace International.

Last month Chubb Ltd. became the first U.S. insurer to say it would no longer sell policies to or invest in companies that make more than 30 per cent of their revenue from coal mining. This follows the lead of some of Europe’s biggest insurers and financial institutions, including Allianz Finance Corp, AXA, Lloyds Banking Group and Zurich Insurance Group, which have placed restrictions on coal underwriting.

The groups said they would ramp up pressure on Zurich, which told the campaigners in a letter last week it would continue insuring the Trans Mountain Pipeline while it discusses with the Canadian government how to meet its Paris climate agreement targets with the pipeline in place.

In June, Zurich had pledged to divest from the oilsands industry.

“By renewing coverage of the Trans Mountain Pipeline, Zurich betrays its own commitments,” said Lucie Pinson, of the Unfriend Coal campaign in a statement on Thursday.

https://business.financialpost.com/...-mountain-pipeline-targets-insurance-coverage
 
first trans are barred from bathrooms in america and the canadians one up us by not letting them build a pipeline
 
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