170 is the one division where the UFC champ might not be the best fighter

bambammccoy said:
That's a fact but on THE fact.

Wonderboy has spent more time winning against Woodley than Woodley has against him.

A hail Mary or two doesn't negate all the holes and flaws Woodley has and was shown in those fights.
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How many times did Wonderboy even hit Woodley.

You sound like an idiot.
 
In the last calendar year Woodley has beaten Maia, Lawler and Wonderboy (in my opinion twice).

In those fights he probably absorbed a total of 10 proper strikes.

Yet he's arguably not the best lol???

Who is better? MacDonald isn't in town anymore, so I don't see this argument.
 
Franc Mittelo said:
I think Conor is the weakest champ. Guys like Joe Duffy, Paul Felder, James Vick and even some tough Bellator 155ers have a good chance of beating him.

I am not at all convinced that Conor McGregor is a Top 20 LW in the world. The guy was finished by a fighter who had to cut a vacation short. All jokes aside, that is a serious lack of quality.
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Hahahah this is embarassing he's beaten a load of top level guys. He'd have every chance of knocking out tony, khabib, lee, gaethje and has already knocked out poirier and alvarez.
 
GSP is obviously the best fighter than can make the 170 limit. Woodley, Wonderboy, USADA Lawler... Bring them on. Easy wins.
 
I agree that Rory is arguably the best welterweight fighter in the world, but the current lightweight champ might not even be top five in the UFC 155 division. It's a total joke.
 
jm814 said:
Hahahah this is embarassing he's beaten a load of top level guys. He'd have every chance of knocking out tony, khabib, lee, gaethje and has already knocked out poirier and alvarez.
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He beat Aldo and Diaz (who is 1-1). So, he has beaten one Top Level guy, Jose Aldo. And that is a "load"? LOL

Don't talk to me about middle of the pack Dustin Poirier, 3-1 Eddie Alvarez, and short-notice fight Chad Mendes.

Max was 3-2 when he fought Conor, that is not a "Top Level" record. Then you have Marcus Brimage (3-0, better record than Max Holloway LOL), Diego Brendao, and Denis Siver.

This is Conor's UFC record. A bunch of 3-and-something fighters, an old guy on his way out, a middle of the pack fighter (Dustin Poirier), two short-notice opponents (and he lost one of them, LOL), and one Greatest To Date fighter (Jose Aldo).

I am not drinking his hype Kool-Aid. The only thing that Conor has proven to me is that, on any given night, he can beat a 3-and-Something in the UFC fighter.

He has yet to prove that he can consistently beat Top Level guys on full camp training. This is why we doubters want to see him fight. We want to see him prove himself.

If Conor had proven himself, the only people who would be anxious for his return would be his fanboys. The rest of us reasonable MMA fans would have said, "you know what, Conor beat wrestlers, BJJ specialists, strikers, wrestler boxers, lay-n-prayers, and everybody in between. He made his money, and he wants to sail into the sunset. We are okay with that."

But since he hasn't done this, there is a lot of unresolved tension. We know the guy is talented, but he hasn't shown enough to be in the same conversations as GSP, Anderson Silva, Jon Jones and Demetrious Johnson. Yet, his fans continue to insist he is on that level, and it is super annoying, because they are vicariously living through his financial success, and use it as a springboard to propel him onto a level of competition he has yet to achieve.

Defend or Vacate. LOL
 
bambammccoy said:
More than Woodley hit him iirc.

You sound upset calling another person an idiot on an internet forum.

Cry harder
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I just have to call what I see when I see this level of stupidity.

If you watched a street fight and a guy landed a few jabs on the other guy and then the other guy cracked him with a huge shot and almost put his lights out, who would have won the fight? Tyron had clear 10-8 rounds in the first fight and he squeaked the second fight also.

Completely remove a 10 point must system and Tyron won both fights with absolute ease.
 
The Natural Born Runner said:
I just have to call what I see when I see this level of stupidity.

If you watched a street fight and a guy landed a few jabs on the other guy and then the other guy cracked him with a huge shot and almost put his lights out, who would have won the fight? Tyron had clear 10-8 rounds in the first fight and he squeaked the second fight also.

Completely remove a 10 point must system and Tyron won both fights with absolute ease.
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Well the 10 point must system isn't removed so it's relevant.

This isn't street fighting lol

Damage isn't the end all be all of judging. WB is 7/10 in rounds against Woodley. Deal with it.
 
Why try on Sherdog? Can someone post porn and get rid of this thread?
 
Breakfast Bar said:
Not his fault, but Woodley has some questions around his status as the best 170 pounder in the world that I don't think any of the other UFC champions have. Both Ben Askren, undefeated and a higher level wrestler, and Rory McDonald, a former top talent who beat Woodley, could make their claims as being better than anyone else with some plausibility. And of course there is the shadow of GSP looming over the division as well.
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  1. Ben Askren could have been in the UFC. But he couldn't keep his big mouth shut. So, no one gives a shit about his worldwide rankings. We do know he is the most boring wrestler in MMA. But they don't give belts for that.
  2. Rory lost to Robbie Lawler and Stephen Thompson. Tyon has wins over both of them.
  3. GSP has had one fight in a decade. There is no looming shadow.
 
bambammccoy said:
Well the 10 point must system isn't removed so it's relevant.

This isn't street fighting lol

Damage isn't the end all be all of judging. WB is 7/10 in rounds against Woodley. Deal with it.
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Woodley/Thompson I:

Round 1: Tyron 10-8
Round 2: Coin toss
Round 3: Coin toss
Round 4: Tyron 10-8
Round 5: Thompson

Woodley/Thompson II:

Round 1: Coin toss
Round 2: Coin toss
Round 3: Tyron 10-9
Round 4: Thompson
Round 5: Tyron 10-8
 
bambammccoy said:
That's a fact but on THE fact.

Wonderboy has spent more time winning against Woodley than Woodley has against him.

A hail Mary or two doesn't negate all the holes and flaws Woodley has and was shown in those fights.
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The fact is Tyron won and Thompson has never beat tyron
 
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