Don't Be Evil: Google Drops Pentagon's A.I Contract, Create Censored Search Engine For China

[Cid]

Are you against making our military strikes more precise so we can get the bad guys with less collateral damage though?

These employees argued that Google is going against its "Don't Be Evil" motto just by working with the U.S military. Personally, I do not think helping to reduce civilian casualty on the battlefield is evil.

Now, if these employees of a U.S company believe that their country's arm forces is inherently evil, therefore working with the armed forces is equate to helping evil, then that would explains a lot about their stance.

Why do you have to think the countries armed forces are inherently evil to be against helping their drone capabilities?

Swimming pools kill more Americans than terrorists. An average of 3,536 Americans are killed by them each year.

You don't hear shit about needing to protect Americans from swimming pools now do you?

People are stupid and care about the outrageous rather than real hazards. Terrorists are evil and everyone hates them for the evil shit they do. They are fucking cunts and that hate is in no doubt justified.

So suddenly terrorists must be stopped and spending millions and killing innocent people is an acceptable consequence to ensure we're safe from something less dangerous than swimming pools.

It doesn't matter that if you put a 5th of the money you spend on drones into education around water safety you'd save more lives. Or if you put a 1/10 of it into the opioid epidemic you'd save 50x as many lives.

We're not wired to think that way. We're emotional rather than logical. We care about the issues that make us angry rather than those that actually matter.

So spending billions of dollars and killing innocent people trying to eliminate the #874th largest cause of premature death is acceptable.


Cancer is the same thing. If we spent 1/10th the money we spend trying to cure cancer on subsidizing fruit and vegetables and promoting education about diet and exercise we'd increase life expectancy more than if we cured cancer because we'd not only drastically delay cancer but drastically delay heart disease deaths, chronic respiratory deaths, diabetes related deaths, neurological related deaths etc etc.

But like terrorists cancer is evil and this outrages me so we must stop cancer.

Sorry for the long ass post. Terrorism is probably the greatest example of our inability to focus on the things that are really hazardous over the things that cause enough outrage for us to give a shit.


Cliffs:
It's not only evil it's fucking stupid too.

Doesn't mean the Army as a whole is evil though.

 

[sub_thug]

This is honestly laughable in a lot of ways. The outrage over giving an interference engine (aka AI) to drone technology is going to simply make them more effective with less mistakes and less malfunctions.

For all of you who are outraged though, Google has been working with the US government for years. The Google Maps app that you use on your phone is CIA technology called Earth Viewer. It was sold by the CIA to the private sector in order to continue to fund it's R&D efforts. If you want to know more about In-Q-Tel and these operations, look here: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-cias-earthviewer-was-the-original-google-earth-2015-11

 

[SmilinDesperado]

Regardless of what Google is worth, the books still need to be balanced after a hit. Such a hit would be huge and may take years to recover from.

When your company's model is "Don't be evil" and when you're a free thinking and successful company like Google is, at some point you have to be about more than profit.
Our species needs to be about more than "the bottom line". It's unsustainable, and a race to the bottom.

Google will be perfectly fine without doing projects for the US military.
They work in technology. There is literally endless things they can do, and a long line of people that would happily pay them to do it

 

[SmilinDesperado]

ITT "conservatives" bootlick the biggest possible overreach of government. Executing people with fucking flying robots, sans due process. Baffling.

"Please U.S. Military, have all the information you need to create a synthetic intelligence that is authorized to execute human beings! USA... USA!!!"

It's always funny to see that shit in threads like these.
The same guys bitching about an overreaching liberal government have absolutely no problem with the government doing things to try and force private businesses to do what they want

 

[SmilinDesperado]

This is honestly laughable in a lot of ways. The outrage over giving an interference engine (aka AI) to drone technology is going to simply make them more effective with less mistakes and less malfunctions.

For all of you who are outraged though, Google has been working with the US government for years. The Google Maps app that you use on your phone is CIA technology called Earth Viewer. It was sold by the CIA to the private sector in order to continue to fund it's R&D efforts. If you want to know more about In-Q-Tel and these operations, look here: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-cias-earthviewer-was-the-original-google-earth-2015-11

Uhh...yeah, everyone understands how the technology works.

The US sending drones into countries to kill people in countries we aren't at war with is not something one would think they signed up for when getting a job with Google.
There are obviously positive benefits of the technology for the military, that isn't being argued. But you're operating under the idea that everyone is on board with the US's usage of drones, and when, where, and on whom they use them on.

 

[HIMBOB]

ITT "conservatives" bootlick the biggest possible overreach of government. Executing people with fucking flying robots, sans due process. Baffling.

"Please U.S. Military, have all the information you need to create a synthetic intelligence that is authorized to execute human beings! USA... USA!!!"

But they have ar15s in case the government goes rogue.

 

[Rematch]

When your company's model is "Don't be evil" and when you're a free thinking and successful company like Google is, at some point you have to be about more than profit.
Our species needs to be about more than "the bottom line". It's unsustainable, and a race to the bottom.

Google will be perfectly fine without doing projects for the US military.
They work in technology. There is literally endless things they can do, and a long line of people that would happily pay them to do it

That's all well and good, but the books still need to be balanced. A loss in revenue will result in the loss of something else- likely employees.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

While I'm no fan of how the US military is used, having the best tech is a no-brainer. Google's involvement won't make or break the advancement.

 

[superpunch]

Swimming pools kill more Americans than terrorists. An average of 3,536 Americans are killed by them each year.

You don't hear shit about needing to protect Americans from swimming pools now do you?

Actually, pools and beaches nationwide hire lifeguards. So, you do hear about it and a lot of money is spent to stop it.

More to the point, terrorism kills as few Americans as it does because our military and intelligence agencies actively fight it. Military and intelligence agencies stop terrorist attacks and disrupt terrorist networks all the time.

They stop bombings and airline hijackings that would cost tens of thousands of lives a year all the time. They disrupt terrorist networks enough to stop them from acquiring things like chemical weapons that would kill even more than that.

The number of Americans killed by terrorism would be enormous if we didn't fight it with our military and intelligence agencies.

You see so few Americans killed by terrorism as evidence that terrorism is not a real threat and that all that money is wasted. You're wrong. So few Americans killed by terrorism is evidence that that money is well spent.

People are stupid and care about the outrageous rather than real hazards. Terrorists are evil and everyone hates them for the evil shit they do. They are fucking cunts and that hate is in no doubt justified.

No, people are not stupid. You're just a contrarian who likes to feel like you're smart by having false "insights" that you think the average person is incapable of. The average person is capable of those insights and has thought about them. Those insights are just obviously wrong to a non-ideological person with average or above intelligence.

 

[Arkain2K]

It's always funny to see that shit in threads like these.
The same guys bitching about an overreaching liberal government have absolutely no problem with the government doing things to try and force private businesses to do what they want

What exactly is Google being FORCED to do in this thread??

 

[superpunch]

It doesn't matter that if you put a 5th of the money you spend on drones into education around water safety you'd save more lives. Or if you put a 1/10 of it into the opioid epidemic you'd save 50x as many lives.

We're not wired to think that way. We're emotional rather than logical. We care about the issues that make us angry rather than those that actually matter.

So spending billions of dollars and killing innocent people trying to eliminate the #874th largest cause of premature death is acceptable.


Cancer is the same thing. If we spent 1/10th the money we spend trying to cure cancer on subsidizing fruit and vegetables and promoting education about diet and exercise we'd increase life expectancy more than if we cured cancer because we'd not only drastically delay cancer but drastically delay heart disease deaths, chronic respiratory deaths, diabetes related deaths, neurological related deaths etc etc.

But like terrorists cancer is evil and this outrages me so we must stop cancer.

Under your limited way of thinking, if we spent 1/10th the money we spend on curing cancer on subsidizing fruits and vegetables and promoting education about diet and exercise and we massively increased life expectancy, you'd look at the super high life expectancy and say that people live so long that bad education on dieting and lack of fruit and vegetables aren't real threats and all that spending is a waste.

 

[D3thr0n3d K1ng]

I wouldn't be keen on making weapons which enable robots to kill humans.

Alot of people want nothing to do with weapons used by humans, but weapons used by robots is another level of evil.

It will be like that Crichton book ,Prey, where intelligent nanomachines designed to kill people escape and go on a killing spree.

 

[SmilinDesperado]

What exactly is Google being FORCED to do in this thread??

The whole of what I said was "try and force..."
The meaning is pretty clear in context of what we're talking about in this thread.
People are suggesting and supporting the idea of the government to stop doing business with companies that don't want to do the work or research they want no part in, in an attempt to 'try and force', or pressure companies to "fall in line" with whatever the government's agenda is

 

[D3thr0n3d K1ng]

But they have ar15s in case the government goes rogue.

<Lmaoo><Lmaoo><Lmaoo>

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

Protest by quitting or returning / donating stock options.

They knew the capabilities of their work from the start -- cant keep your profit and bitch about-- well you can, just makes you *gasp* a virtue signaler

 

[D3thr0n3d K1ng]

But they have ar15s in case the government goes rogue.

You get that conversion kit/bump stock and youre basically Rambo.

 

[Black Helicopters]

Why do you have to think the countries armed forces are inherently evil to be against helping their drone capabilities?

Swimming pools kill more Americans than terrorists. An average of 3,536 Americans are killed by them each year.

You don't hear shit about needing to protect Americans from swimming pools now do you?

People are stupid and care about the outrageous rather than real hazards. Terrorists are evil and everyone hates them for the evil shit they do. They are fucking cunts and that hate is in no doubt justified.

So suddenly terrorists must be stopped and spending millions and killing innocent people is an acceptable consequence to ensure we're safe from something less dangerous than swimming pools.

It doesn't matter that if you put a 5th of the money you spend on drones into education around water safety you'd save more lives. Or if you put a 1/10 of it into the opioid epidemic you'd save 50x as many lives.

We're not wired to think that way. We're emotional rather than logical. We care about the issues that make us angry rather than those that actually matter.

So spending billions of dollars and killing innocent people trying to eliminate the #874th largest cause of premature death is acceptable.


Cancer is the same thing. If we spent 1/10th the money we spend trying to cure cancer on subsidizing fruit and vegetables and promoting education about diet and exercise we'd increase life expectancy more than if we cured cancer because we'd not only drastically delay cancer but drastically delay heart disease deaths, chronic respiratory deaths, diabetes related deaths, neurological related deaths etc etc.

But like terrorists cancer is evil and this outrages me so we must stop cancer.

Sorry for the long ass post. Terrorism is probably the greatest example of our inability to focus on the things that are really hazardous over the things that cause enough outrage for us to give a shit.


Cliffs:
It's not only evil it's fucking stupid too.

Doesn't mean the Army as a whole is evil though.

This reminds me of how people have a false sense of security because the majority of the population is vaccinated so they don't get vaccinated and then... disease spreads. Of course were safe from terrorism because were cooperating with governments in every part of the world and are constantly killing terrorists. You think ISIS and al-Qaeda aren't capable of more attacks?

 

[Stoic1]

I wonder if those 3000 employees attitudes would change if they had to magically cut 3000 jobs to compensate for the $$$ loss?

 

[all caps]

This must be that evolution thing everyone is talking about. From fish, to this.

 

[oldshadow]

So you think the US government should target a US company by going after contracts unrelated to military applications because they don't want to build autonomous death robots?

What are you some kind of fascist dictator?

"Their are" lol

So the company gets special consideration to pick and choose when the govermenf could go with other companies easer to work with.