Social Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: Paul Ryan Was Elected at 28 and Called 'a Genius' While I'm a 'Fraud'

[Rygu]

@Rygu is simply the best poster on this forum due to his avatars.

Nah, I'm just a guy.

A guy obsessed with nice bums.

 

[Jack V Savage]

I think they feel threatened because she's influential. If I understand correctly she won districts for which she wasn't even running. That's a pretty big feat accomplished.

I personally think it's the situation where one kid gets a new toy, and it's obviously really cool. The other kid who doesn't have the toy is seething so they have to just come up with reason after reason for not liking it.

If the Republicans had them on their team they'd do the exact same thing, just mirrored. They'd have all the "See we're not racist," "See you hate her because she's on our team," drivel. They tried that with Rubio if I remember correctly.

That might be the thinking, but I don't think she's actually influential at all. She's literally as junior as you can be, and in the House. She's in an extremely left-leaning (and unrepresentative) district. It's hard to predict how someone's career will go at this point in it, but I think if the right really wants her to go away, they should just stop talking about her. I also think that it's not Democrats bringing her up. I guess it could be that she is green and out of the mainstream in terms of her views that causes Republicans to try to call attention to her, but I think it just brings sympathy because the treatment is so manifestly unreasonable.

I think Rubio looked like a star (note that he was speaker of the Florida House of Reps and then a Senator) and he was hooked up with a lot of the smarter policy guys that work for Republicans. But he bombed hard in 2016, which probably just shows that he needs more experience. OCA isn't near Rubio's level of prominence now.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

Is this thread where people make belive Paul Ryan wasn’t a plague on American politics.

 

[WhiteMousse]

That might be the thinking, but I don't think she's actually influential at all. She's literally as junior as you can be, and in the House. She's in an extremely left-leaning (and unrepresentative) district. It's hard to predict how someone's career will go at this point in it, but I think if the right really wants her to go away, they should just stop talking about her. I also think that it's not Democrats bringing her up. I guess it could be that she is green and out of the mainstream in terms of her views that causes Republicans to try to call attention to her, but I think it just brings sympathy because the treatment is so manifestly unreasonable.

I think Rubio looked like a star (note that he was speaker of the Florida House of Reps and then a Senator) and he was hooked up with a lot of the smarter policy guys that work for Republicans. But he bombed hard in 2016, which probably just shows that he needs more experience. OCA isn't near Rubio's level of prominence now.

I don't necessarily have problems with people who lack experience, even when we're talking about top tier stuff like House and Senate seats. Someone who's green could bring something that is missing and I believe that there are some important things missing from our top politicians today.

I will freely admit ignorance on how influential she is, and defer to your judgment on that, because I simply don't know. As you said, that may simply be what we're presented with. I should have said she has a great deal of potential- she is young, female and of Hispanic nationality, which would serve to eliminate and shame a number of stereotypes if she does a good job.

And I have no reason to think she won't do well. Yeah she's green but everyone is at some point.

 

[Jack V Savage]

I don't necessarily have problems with people who lack experience, even when we're talking about top tier stuff like House and Senate seats. Someone who's green could bring something that is missing and I believe that there are some important things missing from our top politicians today.

Yeah, ideally, we want Congressfolk to go in with all the expertise that they need, and it's totally fair game to criticize someone for coming up short. But, unfortunately, I think it's too much to expect, and I don't think that OCA is unusual in having some gaps in her knowledge. Her background suggests intelligence, and she's obviously passionate. I'd be very disappointed if in 10 years she didn't have a significantly better grasp of budgeting and other issues than Ryan. I'd also be very disappointed if she were given any kind of leadership position before she gets there. I'd expect her to just mostly vote with her party and learn the ropes like most junior Reps (maybe occasionally go against leadership on some issues).

 

[cincymma79]

It is strange that the right is so obsessed with her, though. What do you think the reason is? I've never seen a first-term Congressperson get so much press, and while she's had some real gaffes, the coverage seems wildly disproportionate.

Nobody would know who she was if the media didn’t pump her as the future. I don’t follow who every person in Congress is but you put her out there and I do. Funny though Gary Johnson was an idiot for making similar gaffes. Maybe they just hate white men then?

 

[trac209]

She could have j lo’s ass and wouldn’t. She is a retard

 

[TidWell]

She needs to go on that two scoops diet to get you guys excited.

Dam never knew Trump had Dat Ass

 

[TheTimeIsNotNow]

So you’re telling me that republicans supported a young republican but didn’t support a young liberal?

 

[djacobox372]

I can't stand Ryan, but he was working in DC for 6 years before running.... he wasn't a bartender that volunteered for Bernie and then immediately ran for office.

 

[Happy Man]

Let's be real here, the only reason she got elected is bc non white voters saw that non white name and voted for it.

Her political ability is nothing more than just not being white.

Must we be impressed?

 

[Lord Commander Palis]

You ever notice how often you need to mention me while I never mention you?

Sounds like someone is desperate for attention again. Here you go. Your daily dose of being noticed by your betters. Enjoy it. There won't be any more until tomorrow.[/

Angsty post. Don't worry I'll keep giving you the attention you want from me on my terms as the dom.

 

[MicroBrew]

Do you agree with Ocasio on this matter? I personally think she is tooting her own horn and just enjoys the spotlight Ive seen her interviews and she talks about nothing its like ramblings that you usually hear from college students who learn something new from their professor and adapt their ideology. But cant really find solutions.

Abby Gardner,Glamour

While a historic number of women were elected to Congress in November, that doesn't mean that sexism itself has been booted from office. But Congresswoman-elect Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who has quickly become the Chrissy Teigen of political social media clapbacks, isn't just going to give it a pass.

Most recent case in point: She called out the double standard between herself and outgoing Speaker of the House Paul Ryan. Ryan was 28 when he was first elected, the same age as Ocasio-Cortez was when she won her New York primary race over the summer. But as Ocasio-Cortez noted on Twitter, the similarities end there—and she doesn't just mean their opposite political views. (He's a conservative Republican; she's a Democratic Socialist.)

"Double standards are Paul Ryan being elected at 28 and immediately being given the benefit of his ill-considered policies considered genius; and me winning a primary at 28 to immediately be treated with suspicion & scrutinized, down to my clothing, of being a fraud," she tweeted on Monday along with a Vox article titled "Paul Ryan's Long Con."



Ocasio-Cortez has been scrutinized and criticized—especially by the right-wing news media—since her primary victory in New York's Fourteenth Congressional District catapulted her onto the national stage. And to the women watching her rise, it's no surprise that her achievements have been questioned while those of a "fresh-faced" white man were applauded and validated. He got to be a man "on the rise." To some of her critics, she's a woman who doesn't "know her place."

See: a recent photo that Eddie Scarry, a writer for the Washington Examiner, took of Ocasio-Cortez and proceeded to share on Twitter in order to question her socio-economic status. (“I’ll tell you something: that jacket and coat don’t look like a girl who struggles,” he wrote in the now deleted tweet.)

But Ocasio-Cortez had a brilliant comeback for him too. "If I walked into Congress wearing a sack, they would laugh & take a picture of my backside," she tweeted. "If I walk in with my best sale-rack clothes, they laugh & take a picture of my backside. Dark hates light—that’s why you tune it out."



It's such a relief to see these double standards and sexist barbs called out for what they are—attempts to tear women down and count us out. Whatever work there is to be done (and there is still so much work), we have at least arrived at a moment in which we can be honest about the uphill climbs women face.

Women like Ocasio-Cortez are the future, and if that means cutting through all the sexist noise with wit, brains, and a voice that doesn't sound like it's been run through 47 political consultants before posting a tweet, I'm in.

Full Article here
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-calls-sexist-161614197.html

She still communicates better than Trump, who sounds like a middle schooler or an average high schooler.

 

[TidWell]

She still communicates better than Trump, who sounds like a middle schooler or an average high schooler.

True but what does this thread have to do with Trump?

She sounds like the typical college female though speaking with no solution running in circles after learning socialism from a professor.

 

[KILL KILL]

Let's be real here, the only reason she got elected is bc non white voters saw that non white name and voted for it.


Her political ability is nothing more than just not being white.

Must we be impressed?

I don't believe that to be true. She's very outspoken and very aggressive. Much more so than many others in the party.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

Anyone who uses the word "clap-back" should be shot.

I remember when writers could write.

I remember...

 

[Liquid Smoke]

It is strange that the right is so obsessed with her, though. What do you think the reason is? I've never seen a first-term Congressperson get so much press, and while she's had some real gaffes, the coverage seems wildly disproportionate.

She showcases the lunacy of neoliberals because they were willing to vote out a long standing incumbent based exclusively on identity politics. Make no bones about it, this is not a good look for you guys...

 

[Anung Un Rama]

This woman just won an election and is yet to accomplished anything of consequence as an elected official.
If you find yourself triggered, or preoccupied with what this person thinks or says then you should be concerned about your mental health.
Its pathetic how easily some of you are manipulated by the media.

 

[EradiatedHaggis]

Cortez IS a fraud.

Anyone that thinks "Free college" is free, if everyone pays an insanely large amount of new taxes for it...is a fraud. Also, someone(Ben Shapiro) asking to debate is cat calling according to this twat...total fraud.

 

[Happy Man]

I don't believe that to be true. She's very outspoken and very aggressive. Much more so than many others in the party.

Really?! Or are you just saying that. Betcha 98% of people who voted for her in the primary didn't even know who she was or what her views were.

They just know to vote for a (D) when they see it. They had options now, and saw a white mans name and then a Latino name. The latinos voted for the Latino. End of story.