All Title Boxing/MMA Questions 2.0

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FrankietheTank said:
Hi! I've got a few questions if you wouldn't mind.. I'm a dentist, so protecting my hands and wrists is of the utmost importance to me. I'm 6'4" 300 lb and looking back down to 225 (my football playing weight). I used to hit the heavy bag for exercise in college and loved it. Just started at a boxing gym and wanna get some equipment for my house. I plan on taping my wrists prior to using wraps under my gloves and a gel knuckle fuard under wraps. I'm not going to spar. Strictly mitt work and bag work. My question is, if price is no object, what is the best gear setup I can get to protect my hands / wrists? I want the lowest impact money can buy. My research has led me to 16 oz Velcro winning gloves (will these stand up to bag work? Am I better off with something else with better wrist support? Heavy bag (180 lb liquishock foam and water bag under filled for softness. Is softstrike lower impact? Should I go smaller? For mitts, I'm thinking the adidas air pads.. Look nice and soft.. I want looooow impact.. What are the best wraps to use for my goal of maximum safety? Mexican style or regular? Thank you in advance.... Sorry for the long post:)
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I think I can help you out. Here would be my ideal setup for ideal wrist/knuckle protection.

Wraps: I would combine a Gel Knuckle guard, with a standard 180" mexican style handwrap. The Gel Knuckle guards will add extra knuckle protection AS WELL as adding shock absorbtion. The 180" handwraps (when wrapped properly) are the best thing you use for wrist support.

http://www.titlemma.com/p_GIFG.aspx - Knuck Guards

http://www.titlemma.com/p_MHW+BK.aspx - Wraps

Gloves: Now, there are a few things to think about when it comes to the glove. Padding, wrist support, and size of hand compartment. The looser your hand feels in the glove, the more likely you are to injure your hand. I'd go with one of these 3 gloves:

#1 - Title Gel World Bag Gloves: Great shock absorbtion. Good for guys with above average size hands/forearms. A little heavier than average gloves because of the density of the gel. Great looping wrist support system. http://www.titlemma.com/p_GTWBG+L+BK.aspx

#2 - Rival d30 Bag Gloves: Tons of reasearch on the internet about the d30 material and how well it absorbs impact. Solid wrist strap for a tight wrist support. A little on the compact side, not great for someone who would consider themselves have "big hands" http://www.titlemma.com/p_RB10+M+BK/GR.aspx

#3 - Hayabusa Tokushu Boxing Gloves: Another scientifically developed product with great shock abosrption. Double wrist strap for added wrist support. Gloves range from 10 oz to 16 oz and the handcompartment does adjust slightly between sizes. A guy your size could go for a 14 or 16 probably. http://www.titlemma.com/p_HTG16+BK/GR.aspx

Heavy bags:

Best thing you can go with is the Foam and Water Heavy Bag. But, DO NOT under-fill. This will give you a bag that is solid at the bottom, but foldable at the top. You want an even bag all of the way through so that you do not catch you fist on some weird angle that the bag is making due to being under filled.

http://www.titlemma.com/p_HBWRF+100.aspx

The soft-strike bag is softer, but isn't even the softest thai bag we have. Foam/Water is the way to go.

Let me know if there's anything else I can do.
 
firstDan said:
Hey Wes,
Do you have a list of the gear Twins makes for you?
I've had good luck with Thai brands in the past and wanted to see if these products would be cheaper than buying Thai directly.
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Hmmm. I do not have a grand list. Plus, a lot of items that used to be made for us by twins aren't anymore. We switched some thing up around 4-5 months ago. I know these Thai Pads still are though. http://store.titleboxing.com/tp.html

I'll let you know if anything else comes to mind.
 
im a total noob, im starting my trial session with a muay thai gym next week
im 5'5 120 lbs
what equipments should i get? are sparring gloves the same gloves use for the heavy bag or do i have to get two pairs of different gloves? what brand of headgear, hand wraps, or shin guards
oh, are ball/nut protectors effective.
and whats a good site to get all of these
 
knotz said:
im a total noob, im starting my trial session with a muay thai gym next week
im 5'5 120 lbs
what equipments should i get? are sparring gloves the same gloves use for the heavy bag or do i have to get two pairs of different gloves? what brand of headgear, hand wraps, or shin guards
oh, are ball/nut protectors effective.
and whats a good site to get all of these
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What did your instructors say you need?
 
Im gonna go to the gym next tuesday and ask then, but since i have sherdog might as well get a head start and ask from u guys
 
knotz said:
im a total noob, im starting my trial session with a muay thai gym next week
im 5'5 120 lbs
what equipments should i get? are sparring gloves the same gloves use for the heavy bag or do i have to get two pairs of different gloves? what brand of headgear, hand wraps, or shin guards
oh, are ball/nut protectors effective.
and whats a good site to get all of these
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All of these are things you'll need EVENTUALLY. I'm going to list them in order of importance. Get your bag gloves, wraps, and probably shin guards right away. Then ask your coach when you might need the rest. You may not be sparring for a while if you are just starting out.

Bag Gloves - I'd go with a 10 or 12 oz at most. http://www.titlemma.com/c_219/sf_39.aspx?r=1

Handwraps - 180" Mexican style/Semi-Elastic (Grab a couple of pair) http://www.titlemma.com/c_98/sf_374-125.aspx

Shin Guards - Training Style (Don't get grappling shin guards). You'll be a size medium or regular in most everything. http://www.titlemma.com/c_53/sf_94-17.aspx

Groin Protector - If you are strictly working stand up, consider a steel cup. If not, a standard groin protector will do. Steel cups are not forgiving when grappling. http://www.titlemma.com/c_50/sf_341.aspx or http://www.titlemma.com/c_50/sf_392.aspx

Mouth Guard - Go with a single. Double sided mouthguards are kind of bulky. I really like the Polyshock ones http://www.titlemma.com/c_49/sf_83.aspx?r=1

Sparring Gloves - Probably 14 oz since you're on the smaller side http://www.titlemma.com/c_219/sf_37.aspx?r=1

Headgear - I prefer traditional style with no chin padding. http://www.titlemma.com/c_48/sf_82.aspx?r=1

Let me know if you have questions on any specific products and I'd be happy to give you my opinion.
 
there were so many but i narrowed it down to these
bag gloves- rival ultra bag gloves, advance fairtex gloves, titel gel profight gloves
which one is the best in your opinion, i think they're all 10z

sparring gloves- title eternal professional training gloves size 14 , is this good enough
shin guards- leon super pro shin guards, title world gel shin guard or addidas ultimate gel max shin guard
 
knotz said:
there were so many but i narrowed it down to these
bag gloves- rival ultra bag gloves, advance fairtex gloves, titel gel profight gloves
which one is the best in your opinion, i think they're all 10z

sparring gloves- title eternal professional training gloves size 14 , is this good enough
shin guards- leon super pro shin guards, title world gel shin guard or addidas ultimate gel max shin guard
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Bag gloves - The Fairtex are a thumbless glove. I typically don't recommend those for beginners. The Rival ultra's are a great glove and my coach swears by them. Only problem is that they are not leather. The Gel Pro Fight gloves are great, they have a good fit, and you get that little bit of extra shock absorbtion from the gel liner. Only negative is that they are lace up. It would be difficult to continuosly take them on and off during class. But you could always buy a hook and loop lace converter: http://store.titleboxing.com/titleboxing-hook-and-loop-glove-converters.html
 
How come some Title products in the UK are just rebranded Lonsdale :( and really overpriced too

e.g.

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vs.
Lonsdale_Pro_Training_Glove_300x300.jpg


and

76232599_l.jpg

vs.
lonsdale_boxing_gloves_safe.jpg
 
Then the only UK retailer of legit Title products is Sugar Rays, at least to my knowledge

http://www.sugarrays.co.uk/shop/title-boxing-equipment.html

And they charge absolutely ridiculous prices.

Examples (and this applies to every Title product especially Fighting Sports too, here are only a few):

Title Gel Elite Bag Gloves
UK = $130
US = $70

Title Gel Intense Bag Gloves
UK = $160
US = $90

Title Platinum Full Face Training Headgear
UK = $110
US = $60

It's pretty much nearly always 2x the US price.
 
Minowafanatic said:
Then the only UK retailer of legit Title products is Sugar Rays, at least to my knowledge

http://www.sugarrays.co.uk/shop/title-boxing-equipment.html

And they charge absolutely ridiculous prices.

Examples (and this applies to every Title product especially Fighting Sports too, here are only a few):

Title Gel Elite Bag Gloves
UK = $130
US = $70

Title Gel Intense Bag Gloves
UK = $160
US = $90

Title Platinum Full Face Training Headgear
UK = $110
US = $60

It's pretty much nearly always 2x the US price.
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Because of duties and import tax, which causes the stores to raise their prices to cover them.
 
Well no shit but plenty of goods from the US get sold here without having to be double the price
 
Minowafanatic said:
How come some Title products in the UK are just rebranded Lonsdale :( and really overpriced too

e.g.

76210901_l.jpg

vs.
Lonsdale_Pro_Training_Glove_300x300.jpg


and

76232599_l.jpg

vs.
lonsdale_boxing_gloves_safe.jpg
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Both of those products are lonsdale?

BTW, I looked on that website and none of those products are ours. Looks to be a totally separate company based overseas somewhere.
 
Minowafanatic said:
Then the only UK retailer of legit Title products is Sugar Rays, at least to my knowledge

http://www.sugarrays.co.uk/shop/title-boxing-equipment.html

And they charge absolutely ridiculous prices.

Examples (and this applies to every Title product especially Fighting Sports too, here are only a few):

Title Gel Elite Bag Gloves
UK = $130
US = $70

Title Gel Intense Bag Gloves
UK = $160
US = $90

Title Platinum Full Face Training Headgear
UK = $110
US = $60

It's pretty much nearly always 2x the US price.
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It looks like a lot of the prices on certain products are the same or similar.

But the reason a lot of those items are so much more expensive all just has to do with margins and mark ups. Some items have much higher manufacturing costs than others, and so for that reason distributors get a much smaller discount, but they still want to carry it so they have to sell it above MSRP to make any money off of it.

Couple that with the customs, duties, and brokerage fees that get charged during international shipment and it's honestly a wonder why they aren't selling it even higher.
 
Carl L said:
Wes or title: How easily does this fit under regular-non boxing training shorts?
http://store.titleboxing.com/title-classic-deluxe-groin-protector-plus.html

Compared to this:http://store.titleboxing.com/title-classic-groin-protector-plus.html

Basically, can the first one be worn to and from the gym in the car etc or is it too bulky like a typical no-foul? And which do you think is the better buy? Also, under or over compression shorts?
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The smaller one could probably fit under normal shorts, the big one would probably add a waist size and your shorts might fit too tight. Also, because those groin protectors have a small amount of abdominal padding, they likely wouldn't be too comfortable to sit down in for extended periods of time. They would be constantly jabbing into your lower stomach/pelvic area. I would recommend putting it on/taking it off before/after practice.

This would have to go OVER compression shorts.

Are you using these for actual boxing training?
 
Wes Wasmer said:
The smaller one could probably fit under normal shorts, the big one would probably add a waist size and your shorts might fit too tight. Also, because those groin protectors have a small amount of abdominal padding, they likely wouldn't be too comfortable to sit down in for extended periods of time. They would be constantly jabbing into your lower stomach/pelvic area. I would recommend putting it on/taking it off before/after practice.

This would have to go OVER compression shorts.

Are you using these for actual boxing training?
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Thanks for the response, Wes. Yes, these would be for boxing (no grappling etc) 1xweek. I was thinking they would be a good halfway house between a full no-foul (used to have to wear these when younger and they always felt cumbersome) and a baseball-style cup (centers the would-be low blow in rather a small area). My current gym is only 5 minutes drive away, yes a size up of the shorts is what I was thinking so I don't look like 10 pounds stuffed into a 5 pound bag:wink:

Will probably go ahead and order today as the value seems good provided you think the product will do the job and the deluxe is the one to go for.
 
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Wes Wasmer said:
It looks like a lot of the prices on certain products are the same or similar.
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such as?

Wes Wasmer said:
Both of those products are lonsdale?

BTW, I looked on that website and none of those products are ours. Looks to be a totally separate company based overseas somewhere.
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Picture got removed, they were meant to be linked to

http://www.sportsdirect.com/title-professional-training-boxing-gloves-762109

and

http://www.sportsdirect.com/title-safe-sparring-gloves-762325?colcode=76232599


is that a different Title?

edit: their logo is kind of a different font..that sucks
 
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