Arab-Israeli Conflict, v4: Palestinian Rocket Barrage From Gaza Draws Israeli Strikes

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  1. Arkain2K

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    United Nations condemns "excessive Israeli force", refuses to mention Hamas
    Michelle Nichols | June 13, 2018

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    UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - The U.N. General Assembly condemned Israel on Wednesday for excessive use of force against Palestinian civilians and asked U.N. chief Antonio Guterres to recommend an “international protection mechanism” for occupied Palestinian territory.

    The General Assembly adopted a resolution with 120 votes in favor, eight against and 45 abstentions. It was put forward in the General Assembly by Algeria, Turkey and the Palestinians after the United States vetoed a similar resolution in the 15-member U.N. Security Council earlier this month.

    The General Assembly text condemned the firing of rockets from Gaza into Israeli civilian areas, but did not mention Hamas, the Islamist group that controls Gaza. General Assembly resolutions are not legally binding but carry political weight.

    “The nature of this resolution clearly demonstrates that politics is driving the day. It is totally one-sided. It makes not one mention of the Hamas terrorists who routinely initiate the violence in Gaza,” U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley told the General Assembly before the vote.

    The United States failed in a bid to amend the resolution with a paragraph that would have condemned violence by Hamas.

    “By supporting this resolution you are colluding with a terrorist organization, by supporting this resolution you are empowering Hamas,” Israel’s U.N. Ambassador Danny Danon told the General Assembly before the vote.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...aeli-force-against-palestinians-idUSKBN1J935B
     
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    After vote fails to condemn Hamas, Haley calls UN an unserious force for Middle East peace


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    US leaves UN Human Rights Council over ‘bias against Israel’
    By Yaron Steinbuch | June 19, 2018

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    The US withdrew Tuesday from the UN Human Rights Council, calling it an organization “that is not worthy of its name.”

    Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and UN Ambassador Nikki Haley announced the move at the State Department.

    “We take this step because our commitment does not allow us to remain a part of a hypocritical and self-serving organization that makes a mockery of human rights,” Haley said.

    Haley said a year ago she made clear the US would stay in the council only if “essential reforms were achieved” — and that hasn’t happened.

    She pointed to the membership of countries like China, Cuba and Venezuela that are themselves accused of rights violations and charged that the council has a “chronic bias against Israel.”

    The withdrawal didn’t come as a surprise.

    National Security Adviser John Bolton opposed the council’s creation in 2006.

    In a speech to the body last year, Haley called it out for what she said was its “relentless, pathological campaign” against the Jewish state.

    https://nypost.com/2018/06/19/us-leaves-un-human-rights-council-over-bias-against-israel/
     
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    Israel responds to explosive kites with Gaza strikes
    By Oren Liebermann and Ian Lee, CNN | June 19, 2018

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    Israel struck nine targets in northern Gaza overnight Monday in response to the launching of explosive and incendiary kites by Palestinians, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said Monday.

    The airstrikes were aimed at two military compounds and a munitions manufacturing site, according to the IDF.

    The strikes followed the launch of numerous kites and balloons from Gaza that were either carrying explosives or intended to start fires in southern Israel.

    Israel has struggled to find an adequate way of dealing with the low-tech kites, which have sparked more than 400 fires and burned more than 6,000 acres of farmland, according to a spokesman for Israel's Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee.

    The fires have done an estimated $2 million in damage, said Idit Lev-Zerahia, a spokeswoman for Israel's Tax Authority.

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    CNN witnessed this kite being made in Gaza last week

    On Monday, CNN witnessed charred fields, blackened trees and remnants of kites in Kissufim, on the Israeli side of the fence with Gaza.

    Firefighters there said they are battling between 20 to 30 blazes a day.

    The IDF has increased its response in recent days, firing warning shots near Palestinians casting off the kites and targeting Hamas outposts near kite-launching sites.

    In addition, three rockets were launched from Gaza toward Israel early Monday morning, the IDF said. Two landed in open areas, while a third landed in Gaza.

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    The use of kites by Gazan demonstrators has increased significantly in recent weeks, and is part of a months-long protest movement along the fence separating Gaza and Israel, in which more than 120 Palestinians have been killed.

    Israel has been accused of using excessive force against the protesters, a charge the country's leaders have denied.

    Israel claims Hamas, the militant group that controls Gaza, is orchestrating the protests.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/18/middleeast/israel-strike-gaza-kites-intl/index.html
     
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    Thirty Rockets Fired at Israel From Gaza; IDF Strikes Hamas Targets
    Seven rockets intercepted as sirens blare throughout the night in communities near the Gaza border; military strikes total of 25 targets
    Jun 20, 2018

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    Missiles from the Iron Dome air defense system fired from a position in the southern Israeli area seen from Gaza City on June 20, 2018.

    Thirty rockets were fired from Gaza into Israel and seven were intercepted by the Iron Dome system late Tuesday and early Wednesday, the Israeli military said after rocket alert sirens were heard in several Israeli communities near the Gaza border several times. The IDF said it struck a total of 25 targets in Gaza, including three that occurred before the rocket fire in response to the continued launching of incendiary kites.

    On Monday evening, the Israeli military reported attacking Hamas infrustructure in Gaza for the second time. The army claimed Hamas had launched burning baloons into Israeli territory.

    Earlier that day, the Israeli military said it attacked nine Hamas targets in Gaza, including military compounds and weapons production facilities. The IDF said the attacks were carried out in response to the firing of kites and explosive devices into Israel, as well as to an attempt to infiltrate into Israel.

    Also Monday, three rockets were fired from the Strip toward Israel, with one of them landing in the coastal enclave.

    The last week of May saw the worst flare-up of violence involving Israel and Gaza since 2014's Operation Protective Edge. Israel's air force struck dozens of targets in Gaza in response to a barrage of 28 mortars and scores of rocket sirens. Five Israelis sustained shrapnel wounds and a kindergarten was hit by mortar fire some 30 minutes before it was opened. An unofficial cease-fire was reached, but occassional rocket fire and retaliatory strikes have continued.

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...-siren-in-israel-s-gaza-border-area-1.6195076
     
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    You misogynist.
     
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    Probably out looking for ways to deflect, as usual. That was the only thing that fool could do when we discussed the PA's monthly payments to known terrorists. That's when I realized he's incapable of discussing like a normal human being and put the block list to good use, so he wouldn't be able to waste any of my time again when he'll inevitably drop by to quote our latest news updates just to post some utterly worthless shit/cartoons/memes.

    My bet is that he probably think these explosive/incendiary kite attacks are perfectly okay, so he'll get back to you on that subject when the IDF starts shooting at the "innocent unarmed Gaza civilians" who are sending these weaponized toys over the border to burn farms and forests indiscriminately.
     
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    Thanks, tool, but you refuse to discuss any of this based on facts.

    You post Israeli propaganda. You are delusional. Israelis are terrorists and liars. You support them.

    Here are your terrorists:

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    And how many of the stupid kite flying posts did you cut and paste?

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    President Trump’s New Deal for the Middle East
    By Zev Chafets| June 25, 2018

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    During Jared Kushner’s recent round of Middle East diplomacy, he refrained from spelling out the details of the Trump plan for an Israeli-Palestinian deal. But you don’t need details to see where things are heading. Kushner laid that out in a remarkably blunt interview in Al Quds, the leading Palestinian newspaper.

    “The world has moved forward while you have been left behind,” he said to his Palestinian readers. “Don’t allow your grandfather’s conflict to determine your children’s future.”

    In other words: The war against the Jewish state is over. You lost. Now, get over it. Kushner dismissed the traditional Palestinian core issues (the return of refugees, a fully sovereign state including East Jerusalem and the end of Jewish settlement in the West Bank) as “talking points,” in an endless quarrel.

    He also portrayed the Palestine Authority under Mahmoud Abbas as naysaying time-servers. “We will release our peace plan and the Palestinian people will actually like it because it will lead to new opportunities for them to have a much better life.”

    This assumes that a new generation of Palestinians will put material self-interest before anti-Zionist dogma, and accept a peace with Israel that offers Muslim control of the holy places in Jerusalem, limited communal autonomy in the West Bank, and prosperity through massive public and private-sector investment. Kushner calls it an opportunity for Palestinians left behind decades ago “to leapfrog into the next industrial age" by inclusion in the ecosystem of the "Silicon Valley of the Middle East, Israel."

    Kushner thinks that young upwardly mobile Palestinians will take a chance and leap. But it won’t be easy. For them, it would not be like challenging a distant dictatorship, a la the Egyptian Arab Spring. It would be more personal, a rejection of elders, relatives in the diaspora and a widely believed national narrative.

    Still, there are some reasons for optimism. One is the failure of the West Bank to explode, as predicted, over the opening of the U.S. Embassy or the Gaza March of Return. Another is the eagerness of Palestinians to work peaceably in Israel.

    During the Kushner visit, the Israeli government announced that it is issuing 7,500 work permits to residents of the West Bank, where unemployment hovers around 20 percent. This decision is made possible by the Israel’s belief that they will not pose a security threat. This assessment stems from the fact that 100,000 West Bankers already work in Israel, largely without incident.

    But the kind of prosperity Kushner is talking about does not rest primarily on blue-collar jobs in Tel Aviv. It depends on the Trump administration’s ability to provide major economic benefits, and fast. This generates a degree of skepticism.

    After the 1993 Oslo accords, there was grandiose talk about international investments in the Palestinian economy. The second intifada, which began in 2000, put a damper on this. So has the endemic corruption of the Palestinian ruling class and its bureaucracy. And Israeli entrepreneurs were mostly unwelcome; West Bankers didn’t want to be accused of collaboration. This could change, but Trump’s “peace through prosperity” approach has to produce results.

    Still, the Trump plan has a lot going for it, starting with the Trump attitude. Previous U.S. administrations wanted to be seen as honest brokers. To demonstrate this, they gave the Palestinian leadership something approaching a veto over developments in the “peace process.”

    That’s finished. Trump has made it abundantly clear that he is not neutral. He sees things Israel’s way. If current Palestinian leaders reject his plan and no one comes forward to accept take it up, well, that’s their problem. If there is no Palestinian partner, Trump will let Israel go ahead and impose the deal it wants in the West Bank.

    This is serious leverage. The Palestinians can’t count on Arab governments to counter it: Already the support of Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan and the Gulf States has been reduced to lip service. These governments depend on the U.S. for protection against ISIS and Iran and they understand that Trump is a transactional president. He doesn’t believe State Department wisdom about the need to court Arab goodwill. As far as he is concerned, it is the Arab allies who need to court him. That means helping him get the deal of the century in the Middle East.

    Nor is Trump likely to accept the excuse that they can’t help him because of the hatred in the street for Israel. If they can’t deliver, what good are they?

    This approach is radically different than anything the U.S. has proposed in the past. It is premised on the idea that most Palestinians want a better life more even than they want revenge or another generation of dysfunction and conflict. Perhaps Trump is naive to think so. Maybe his plan is a coarse appeal to personal gratification. Or maybe he is right. In any case, it is what’s coming next.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/arti...eace-trump-tells-palestinians-to-go-for-greed
     
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    What a piece or shit! I really think this has gone way too far. The double-standards wrapped in hypocrisy can last only so long.
     
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    Four Arab states 'support US plan' for peace in the Middle East
    Arab officials interviewed by Israel Hayom daily confirm to Kushner their countries' support for 'deal of the century'.
    25 Jun 2018

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    Lol, that plan is absolutely delusional.
     
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    Aaron David Miller shared his thoughts on the Trump peace plan on twitter. I agree with most of it, especially point number 2.
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    1 Memo to Trump Administration on Israeli-Palestinian peace. Trying and failing is not better than not having tried at all. Trust me. We operated on that basis for years and it has gotten us nowhere. Failure costs US credibility.

    2. By all accounts what you are considering putting out will fail. The Arabs may be polite; but they won’t back it; the Palestinians will say no; you might get a yes, but from Israel. But it won’t matter. Right now you’re setting things up not for peacemaking; but blame-gaming.

    3. Right now there is no way to bridge gaps between Is and Ps on core issues; and with these two leaders there won’t be a time — ever.

    4. Never has the US put out a plan in advance of negotiations or a serious US mediation effort (Reagan speech was never serious). Your plan presumes to do this. But it won’t [work] and you will damage US value as a credible mediator which some believe is irreparably damaged already

    5. Options — pretty bad. Revise sections on final status and make what isn’t credible about your approach credible; Delay- if necessary interminably. It’s only year 2; what’s rush?

    6. If your goal is to allow the Israelis to say yes but; the Arabs to say maybe; and set Abbas up for the fall and then say we tried; park issue through midterms, that’s not much of a strategy and it hurts America.

    7. Remember success is world’s most compelling ideology because it breeds power and followers. Failure generates the opposite. You won’t be first to fail. But you could embarrass yourselves big time and leave no foundation- even in failure - on which to build.

    8 It ’s not too late to reconsider. And perhaps I’m wrong; and you — unlike all of us who came before you — have found the magic Rx to get Abbas and Bibi to sign on or at least consider as a serious basis for negotiations.

    9. But if that’s not the case — and you’re smart enough to know your chances — remember this. This peace stuff isn’t some weekend toy. It involves the historic hopes and dreams of Israelis and Palestinians and the interests of the US. We screwed up plenty. So please be careful.
     
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    Arab leadership warns US: revealing peace plan will ‘undermine stability’
    06/29/2018

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    Egyptian President Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi, center, meets with President Donald Trump's son-in-law and senior adviser Jared Kushner, second left, and Mideast envoy Jason Gre

     
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    Arabs advising Abbas to accept Trump peace plan or risk losing out
    Arab diplomat tells Egyptian newspaper that Palestinians should take what they can now rather than reject proposal out of hand and see settlements grow unfettered
    By Khaled Abu Toameh

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    Jordan's King Abdullah II (right), meets with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas and their delegations at the Royal Palace, in Amman, Jordan, January 29, 2018

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/arabs...t-trump-peace-plan-or-risk-losing-out-report/
     

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