Social Are Males Being Discriminated Against On College Campuses? Ans: yes they are.

Ah the Subconscious. Now we enter the facts zone.

Nice cherry picking attempt, totally overlooking points that the author of the article made like

1.men are often disproportionately harshly treated in campus disciplinary actions, often being denied rights routinely and constitutionally provided all Americans off campus.
2. Colleges spend millions on Women's Studies programs, but never a dime on Men's Studies.
3. Special efforts are made to get women to study in the STEM disciplines, where men are numerically dominant, but no such effort is made to increase the number of men in other fields where women significantly outnumber men.
4. Over 80% of obstetricians doing their residency are female: are there any efforts to lure men into obstetrics?
5. All-women colleges are much more prevalent than all-male schools.

Why do you need deliberate discrimination when actions made in their subconscious are enough for pointing out a blatant discrimination that exists in front of our naked eyes?
 
As is often the case when we try to correct a perceived problem, we overcorrect. I think a lot of educators are still stuck thinking of little girls with their hands raised in a 1950s class room while the teacher ignores them and only pays attention to the boys. That hasn't been true on a macro level for many decades now. Females on average out perform males by significant margins at every stage of schooling.

You can see the same thing in a lot of people's attitude toward racial or sex issues. They aren't actually aiming at equality, they've identified a bad guy and a good guy. So they always root against men, even when men demonstrably are getting the short end of the stick. This seems especially true on the left.
 
I’ll take Richard Vedder’s opinion on the much-aggrieved American male about as seriously as his idea that the Great Fiscal Crisis was caused by too much government regulation, that is, not at all.
He is a mouthpiece for Mises and The American Enterprise Institute and only a moron takes the bullshit that comes from his bloviating old cocksucker seriously.
 
I’ll take Richard Vedder’s opinion on the much-aggrieved American male about as seriously as his idea that the Great Fiscal Crisis was caused by too much government regulation, that is, not at all.
He is a mouthpiece for Mises and The American Enterprise Institute and only a moron takes the bullshit that comes from his bloviating old cocksucker seriously.

Richard Vedder has published 90 peer reviewed papers with all total citations of 728. Come back to me when you can show us your own academic credentials of same calibre.
 
I’m glad I got My gender studies degree like 15 years ago

I'm pretty sure this is the first time these words have been used in this order in all of human history.
 
Richard Vedder has published 90 peer reviewed papers with all total citations of 728. Come back to me when you can show us your own academic credentials of same calibre.

And how many of those are related to the topic at hand? 0? That’s what I thought.
I actually do agree with much of what he says about Universities (cost wise) but he is way off base here.
 
First What I noticed that oppression isn't an exclusive property to feminists, anyone can feel oppressed. How do you stop them? Just because they don't fall with your line doesn't make them invalid.

Also a notice to Mods: Can you guys please punish these sort of posters who try to play these type of self righteousness moderating role without any kind of proper authority? @jei

Now your oppressed and the posters are picking on you. You must have had a bad Monday.
 
Richard Vedder has published 90 peer reviewed papers with all total citations of 728. Come back to me when you can show us your own academic credentials of same calibre.

This is a poor comment as you're suggesting that nobody can have an opinion on this topic unless they're heavily credentialed in academia. If that's the case then why bother discussing it on a karate forum?

I think men are doing fine in academia and women and men make different choices throughout life. The only real issue I have is Title IX and how it is applied to men where it basically treats them guilty until proven innocent, though they are not allowed the resources or access to properly make a case for themselves. If anything that's more of an issue than the quantity of mens colleges vs womens colleges.
 
This is a poor comment as you're suggesting that nobody can have an opinion on this topic unless they're heavily credentialed in academia. If that's the case then why bother discussing it on a karate forum?

I am all ears if you are going counter argue the points that have been mentioned. But when you have to retort to character slandering for establishing your points then I think you don't have any counter argument to begin with. You can make your point without character assassination. (You mean not you, but using as a generalised term)

I think men are doing fine in academia and women and men make different choices throughout life. The only real issue I have is Title IX and how it is applied to men where it basically treats them guilty until proven innocent, though they are not allowed the resources or access to properly make a case for themselves. If anything that's more of an issue than the quantity of mens colleges vs womens colleges.

Nah mate, It's not true. The college dropping out rate among men has reached to a point that you can call it an epidemic.
https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2017/08/why-men-are-the-new-college-minority/536103/
https://www.psychologytoday.com/int...ilent-epidemic-young-men-dropping-out-college
https://www.denverpost.com/2017/06/04/men-women-college-proportion/

Just have a glance on those articles & you will have an idea that Men are dropping out of college in an alarming rate.

Now for your second concern regarding false allegation I wholeheartedly agree with you.
 
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There's lots of reasons why people fail out of college (both sexes), and I think the main reason is because not everybody wants to sit on their ass in class all day for 12+ hours. Especially not so when you're 18-22 years old and your body has endless energy.

Personally I don't think college is for everybody and I don't see a problem with there being more women wasting their time than men. Too many people go to school and get a degree (or don't finish) and end up in too much debt and aren't able to utilize their degree for anything. I guess my point here is that men being the minority on campus doesn't really bother me. I see it as more of the pendulum swinging the other way and people want different things than what colleges provide. Lots of great trade jobs out there don't require you to spend 4 years of your life just get your foot in the door.
 
Frankly a lot of this has to do with to many people in college. Our society is growing stagnant because everyone is going into college when most men are better suited for the trades and most women are better suited to be mothers. But millions of students every year are conned into getting degrees.
Agree. University places should be restricted to people with the passion, intelligence and discipline for a given field.
 
Yeah, A professor of Economic Emeritus of an esteemed University is being called an incel.
Says Who?
An anonymous poster posting on a political wall of a karate forum.
I think he’s calling you an incel not the professor.
 
As is often the case when we try to correct a perceived problem, we overcorrect. I think a lot of educators are still stuck thinking of little girls with their hands raised in a 1950s class room while the teacher ignores them and only pays attention to the boys. That hasn't been true on a macro level for many decades now. Females on average out perform males by significant margins at every stage of schooling.

You can see the same thing in a lot of people's attitude toward racial or sex issues. They aren't actually aiming at equality, they've identified a bad guy and a good guy. So they always root against men, even when men demonstrably are getting the short end of the stick. This seems especially true on the left.
Do you want to be my second wife?
 
Gender studies would be worthwhile if they actually explored and communicated legit, relative differences between the preferences and capabilities of men and women (while emphasising that these differences are general, not universal) rather than obsessing over a history of perceived and actual oppression.
Seems it might actually offer explanations for disparities like this without having everyone immediately resort to 'oppression' as the answer.

Look at this quote from the article itself:

For African-Americans, the gender disparities are breathtaking: some 64% of blacks receiving bachelor's degrees are females. Black male participation in college life is somewhat lower because a shockingly high proportion of teenagers are involved in criminal activity often involving incarceration.

That's not the school's discrimination. That's an unfortunate result of a masculine temperament combined with the economic and social hardships statistically more likely to affect black Americans.
White males might not be as likely to be robbing liquor stores, but that doesn't mean that they're going to uni or, if they are, that they value the experience as much as their female counterparts do.
Young guys are more likely to be engaging in a fulfilling life of crime, starting their own businesses (I think), dying in their nation's wars, killing themselves, crafting YouTube personas, or (at this juncture in history) bonding with their parents'/spouse's couch, than young women are. These are all perfectly valid alternatives to higher education, and none can be blamed on the institution's discrimination.

The perception of discrimination might be a contributing factor. Especially as it's recently become a popular topic.
But, let's not pretend it's the sole factor. It probably isn't even a major one.

I think the actual important question is, are degrees, etc., overvalued?
I don't think that they're worthless, at all. And in some fields (STEM, specifically) they're an absolute necessity for the time being. But generally speaking? They're little more than an indicator of a decent baseline intelligence and work ethic. You can tell more about a person's professional value from a 4-year work history and a half-hour conversation.

Yet, how many years do you spend paying off that slip of paper, that - in most cases - just serves to prove that you're about as capable as the other few thousand people filling your prospective employers' inbox?
Education is more aggressively pushed onto young women, but I do not necessarily think that that is a positive thing for them or a negative for men. Awareness of flexibility of life choices is important in a fast-changing world, and university/college/whatever is not the best environment for enabling the potential of all people.

I am not saying that higher education is useless (far from it). But rather that when you try to expand it uniformly, in terms of scale of population and depth of specialisation, you reach a point of steeply diminished returns.
And I am not saying that there is no discrimination in education (it isn't a strictly American problem, as few things ever are), but all things being equal (which they never will be, entirely) I'd guess that the preferences of young females in general, are better suited to dry academia than are those of young males, and that this has more of an impact on enrollment numbers than does the looming specter of discrimination.

I also think that the lumbering, bureaucratic and slow-to-react structure of modern education is outdated, prone to corruption and in desperate need of reassessment in light of technological and social changes that it has failed to keep pace with.
 
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Very much. Billboards at any campus here contain posters on male sexual violence towards women as if it were common on university grounds lol. I can't imagine what the tourists are thinking when they walk past those billboards. They must think it's rape city. Honestly i spend a lot of time on university ground. Sometimes i'd be there all day and I never ever heard of any sexual violence among students. Not a whisper. The workload and pressure students face is nightmarish. Some students collapse from fatigue in the library after 24 hour marathon lol. Most students have no social lives. I just don't buy this sexual violence hearsay given how students don't even have time to meet people. It's downright fear-mongering. Probably students from wimmin studies trying to justify why they exist. There are also posters on how men have disproportionate amount payed internships compared to females, completely disregarding that payed interships come with a lot of pressure and females tend to break faster than men. I just witnessed the other day a female colleague student break down in tears in front of everyone after a dialogue with the professor. Not the first incident
 
Also a notice to Mods: Can you guys please punish these sort of posters who try to play these type of self righteousness moderating role without any kind of proper authority? @jei
thread-whining and backseat modding was already against the rules, kinda surprised luckyshot got his post removed since it's kinda common in threads that make muslims/immigrants look bad hah. Sets an example though.

There was a previous thread where women couldn't hang with the men in STEM exams so they made the exams easier for them! Pathetic feminists not concerned with equality, they just everything they can grab divorce-style.

Oxford University extends time on exams to help women
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/oxford-university-extends-time-on-exams-to-help-women.3698619/
 
Any man crying about being oppressed for being a man, should have both his man-card and his right to reproduce revoked effective immediately
 
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