Are movie critics overrated?

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There always seems to be a disconnect at least recently between the audience and the critics,for example, critics love star wars last jedi but fans hate it. Infinity war was massively received by fans, while critics only have it at 83% on rotten tomatoes.

I used to read critic reviews, now I avoid them. They all seem to piggyback off each other, that is...if the critic consensus is that a film is good, other critics parrot this. The same for if the film is considered bad.

I feel that today especially, films are reviewed based on merits outside of the quality of the actual film. For example certain films seem to get high reviews because they adhere to leftist socio-political standards. As an example of that example, I feel last jedi only got good reviews because it had a diverse cast, not because of the merit of the film.

I feel the same way slightly about Black Panther. I think it is a great film, but overhyped due to the wrong reasons.

Anyone else feel this way?

Why do you think critics and fans don't agree? And do you think films are reviewed by critics based on the wrong things?
 
Never really got the point of them. Seems weird to need someones else's view to decide whether you need to see a movie or not. <Fedor23>
 
I always pay attention to RT scores and the reviews of critics of who I like.

Campea, Jahns, Screen Junkies..... I used to care about Stuckmann but I think his success got to his head.
 
Yes they are and the ones on Sherdog are the worst. They try to control the masses opinions by merge New threads into one giant piece of shit thread where only the TS can have his opinion on the movie heard and everyone else gets lost cause the thread is 100 pages and no one is going to read all that. And even if you do go into the thread after you watch the movie, the critics dont even want you talking about the movie in thread til WEEKS after the movie came out. So you cant even voice on Why someone should skip or watch the movie cause they are to busy caring about spoiler for movie that is already out. They want you to watch it, wait weeks and then talk about. Makes No Sense to me.

So yes. Movie critics suck ass.
 
Yes they are and the ones on Sherdog are the worst. They try to control the masses opinions by merge New threads into one giant piece of shit thread where only the TS can have his opinion on the movie heard and everyone else gets lost cause the thread is 100 pages and no one is going to read all that. And even if you do go into the thread after you watch the movie, the critics dont even want you talking about the movie in thread til WEEKS after the movie came out. So you cant even voice on Why someone should skip or watch the movie cause they are to busy caring about spoiler for movie that is already out. They want you to watch it, wait weeks and then talk about. Makes No Sense to me.

So yes. Movie critics suck ass.

Ok merging threads is legit criticism. But why not use spoiler tags? I have discussions with spoiler tags all the time in here. You could also PM other members.
 
I don't read critics. I don't care whether others like the film or not, their opinion won't change my viewing experience. I pay the $15 and watch films that interest me. It's $15.. why do you need to read up 30mins+ on what people feel about the film before watching?

I read up AFTER I finish the film to see if there are others that like/love the film like I did. Those probably means we like the same style/genre of films and can lead to a nice discussion and sharing.
 
They suck. Especially the ones today. They just can't seem to keep their politics from completely skewing and influencing their reviews. They love to bloviate and virtue signal in their reviews.
 
I come to Sherdog for my reviews...
 
Critics are rated as high or as low as you want to rate them.

But critiquing the 'craft' of professional critics seems to lend some credence to the craft of passing a judgement.
 
Ok merging threads is legit criticism. But why not use spoiler tags? I have discussions with spoiler tags all the time in here. You could also PM other members.

cause some of us want dont want to have to use spoiler tags for a movie that is already out. What is the point. PM sucks. i want to voice my opinion in a open forun with everyone that wishes to join. Spoilers tags feel like I trying to just to talk to one person and that sucks.
 
Find one that has taste in movies closer to yourself and it's a good guide to see what you may enjoy. But blindly following critics is dumb.
 
It seems like most of the mainstream movie and game critics are paid off these days. Too many shitty movies and games a lot of people didn't like getting really high scores.

There are some youtube movie reviewers I like, mainly Red Letter Media and Double Toasted. I trust their opinions more than the average critic.
 
Rotten Tomatoes & Metacritic are no longer useful resources
It's clear the studios are pushing this. Their political bias is apparent in the meta-ratings, now, too:
Here is what RT deemed to be the top 25 movies of 2016 and 2017

2017
1. 98% Moonlight (2016) 322
2. 98% Zootopia (2016) 262
3. 94% Arrival (2016) 352
4. 92% La La Land (2016) 389
5. 95% The Jungle Book (2016) 297
6. 95% Manchester by the Sea (2016) 296
7. 97% Hell or High Water (2016) 249
8. 94% Finding Dory (2016) 297
9. 91% Captain America: Civil War (2016) 365
10. 96% Moana (2016) 246
11. 96% Paterson (2016) 230
12. 100% Things to Come (L'avenir) (2016) 130
13. 97% Kubo and the Two Strings (2016) 195
14. 97% Love & Friendship (2016) 188
15. 97% Hunt for the Wilderpeople (2016) 178
16. 94% Fences (2016) 234
17. 92% The Nice Guys (2016) 277
18. 97% Weiner (2016) 154
19. 91% The Witch (2016) 292
20. 98% Don't Think Twice (2016) 126
21. 95% Eye In The Sky (2016) 195
22. 100% Tower (2016) 78
23. 95% Sing Street (2016) 189
24. 99% Cameraperson (2016) 93
25. 95% The Handmaiden (Ah-ga-ssi) (2016) 185


2017
1. 99% Lady Bird (2017) 316
2. 99% Get Out (2017) 307
3. 97% Coco (2017) 276
4. 92% Dunkirk (2017) 379
5. 92% Wonder Woman (2017) 378
6. 98% The Big Sick (2017) 253
7. 93% Logan (2017) 339
8. 91% Star Wars: The Last Jedi (2017) 375
9. 92% The Shape of Water (2017) 350
10. 96% The Florida Project (2017) 255
11. 93% Baby Driver (2017) 317
12. 92% Thor: Ragnarok (2017) 335
13. 92% Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri (2017) 323
14. 93% War for the Planet of the Apes (2017) 298
15. 92% Spider-Man: Homecoming (2017) 317
16. 98% I Am Not Your Negro (2017) 181
17. 93% Hidden Figures (2017) 262
18. 93% Logan Lucky (2017) 241
19. 96% The Salesman (Forushande) (2017) 177
20. 91% The Disaster Artist (2017) 274
21. 99% Faces Places (Visages, villages) (2017) 107
22. 98% My Life as a Zucchini (Ma vie de courgette) (2017) 123
23. 87% Blade Runner 2049 (2017) 350
24. 99% God's Own Country (2017) 100
25. 96% Mudbound (2017) 161

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/top/bestofrt/?year=2017

Fuck me, Houston, we have a problem. Forgot about Mudbound. Adding that. This also reminded me of the short-lived Underground. Will also add that to the TV.

Okay, count this up. These are RT's weighted lists for movies for 2016 and 2017. So let's sort this and revisit the list:

TV Shows
  • Atlanta: 100%
  • Dear White People: 100%
  • Luke Cage: 96%
  • Insecure: 100%
  • Underground: 96%

2018 Movies
  • BlacKkKlansmen: 96%
  • Black Panther: 97%
  • Sorry to Bother You: 96%

2016 & 2017 Movies
  1. 13th: 96%
  2. Fences: 94%
  3. Get Out: 99%
  4. Hidden Figures: 93%
  5. I am not your Negro: 99%
  6. Moonlight: 98%
  7. Mudbound: 96%
  8. Rodney King: 100%

You see the problem, here?

Every single black activism film listed here with enough critics voting made the Top 25 lists.

13th had a higher rating than numerous films on that list, but it only had 80 total votes. Rodney King was a small documentary by Spike Lee that notches a perfect critic score across its limited votes.
 
Critics are like mechanics. You find one you trust and stick with them. If you find one who enjoys the same movies you enjoy and gives similar scores, then why wouldn't you trust their reviews. At that point they're similar enough to you to give you an approximation of how much you MIGHT enjoy a film.
 
@Dragonlordxxxxx is my go to now. I also go off suggestions from here in the Berry. Movie critics are antiquated. That maybe made sense when newspapers and television were the places where you got all your movie reviews, but now anyone can be a movie critic. I just don't trust movie reviewers anymore. A lot of them care more about the politics/message of a movie than the actual quality of the movie or the story. TLJ was basically the last straw for me. I trust audience reviews far more now than critics.
 
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