Bellator MMA land 'game changing' multi-year nine-figure deal with DAZN

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  1. DataBreach

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    Nope. You're just trying to score points now. You're just spouting facts now to give the illusion you're correct but those facts have nothing to do with my first arguments on the ESPN+ deal with UFC.

    I basically reasoned the UFC needed exposure/advertising more than it needed the ESPN+ deal. You disagreed sharply.

    Now you are saying Bellator will lose exposure by signing a streaming deal. Basically the same thing I said regarding the ESPN+ deal.

    I would need a source for ESPN cable showing cards as well. You claimed they would but this is the first I heard of that. I was told ESPN+ would be 15 cards for paid streaming.

    And please don't act like ESPN commentators talking about the UFC is on par with free fight cards on cable TV. Not remotely the same thing. You can talk about ESPN promoting UFC until you're blue in the face but the actual fights are behind a payment threshold so many won't care about talking heads. Do you care about commentary on cards you can't watch unless you pay? If the UFC signs back with FOX or another cable company you think ESPN or ESPN+ will promote those cards?

    ESPN is only promoting ESPN UFC and maybe UFC PPV's. What do they both have in common? You need to pay to watch both.

    That's the farthest thing from good exposure/advertising.
     
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    lol, WTF would I care to score points with you?

    Have a good one
     
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    WoW
    Thank you for that
    You just admitted you are far from informed.

    Take care
     
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    FrankieNYC "My balls was hot!" Platinum Member

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    Of course
    Mainstream coverage is great exposure
    Far more than prelims on FS1 that only hardcore will care to tune into
     
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    What you don't understand is business is not just about making money. Sometimes you have to give to get.
     
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    So no source then. Gotcha
     
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    But they aren't the same. DAZN paid good money it sounds for a company that needs money. Some hardcores that post on forums will subscribe to their service and watch the fights and others will find them through other means. But its not adding exposure.

    ESPN+ would only be like DAZN if ESPN had no plans to advertise the UFC more on ESPN as a result. ESPN is going to cover the sport more though as they already signed Ariel and Chael to a show because now they have more of a reason to want the brand to grow.

    ESPN+ cards likely wont get a lot of eyes, but the media coverage on the mainstream can only help PPV buys.
     
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    FrankieNYC "My balls was hot!" Platinum Member

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    DAZN is definitely going "all in".
    The content seems a lot stronger outside of US
     
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    FrankieNYC "My balls was hot!" Platinum Member

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    I isolated that because i obviously agree on the rest

    But since ESPN is a PPV partner, unlike Fox they will be promoting the PPV's as well.
     
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    I agree with much of what you say. You don't grasp my position on the UFC ESPN+ deal. That's my contention with this guy, not Bellator.
     
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    Here's a source:

    http://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/23581729/espn-ufc-reach-five-year-television-rights-deal

    espn cable network will air 10 fightnights and 12 ppv prelims per year, espn + will air 20 fight nights a year.

    This means UFC will have 22 live events on espns cable network a year. That's a whole lotta exposure.
     
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    read the whole thing. 30 fight nights plus 12 ppv prelims. espn cable is getting 22 events (10 fight nights plus 12 ppv prelims) and espn + is getting 20 fight nights.

    point being: Frankie is a made guy around here, You dont fuck with him.

    if you do you're gonna get a dick up your nose like you're getting now.

    at this point you should just spit the cum out, learn from your mistakes and move on.
     
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    So how many events. Total. In the deal?

    More than 15? ...30 Fight Nights. Like I said.

    Consider yourself pwned.

    Don't need to read anything else.
     
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    OK that made me lol

    But I didn't see him "fucking with me"
    he obviously is clueless if he did not know of the UFC/ESPN deal ... I mean that is complete insanity

    Trolls always out themselves ... it is one of the few guarantees in life
    I took the time to explain & it was futile, so I stopped

    But hysterical post & much appreciated man

    you add a lot of good content on here in these type threads ... much appreciated
    The cerebral conversations always outweigh the nitwits that cannot comprehend
     
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    But you're the one that got exposed. Your cheerleaders won't help you.
     
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    read the espn report. it's a total of 42 events (30 fight nights and 12 ppv prelims).

    20 fight nights will air on espn + and 10 fight nights in addition to 12 ppv prelims (total of 22) will air on espn cable.
     
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    30 Shows
    12 ppv prelims.

    I said 30 Shows. I don't consider prelims a show whether you do or not. And that wasn't even my focus when I asked for the source.

    But that's ok. Frankie didn't want to get exposed, so he left.

    We good.
     
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    frankie's been exposed for a while now

    he's toned it down lately but he literally just copycats whatever Meltzer is saying.
     
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    When @Kinosis liked this post it made me realize how insipid someone was that thought I was being negative about the deal

    I didn't realize this was in the same thread

    but ...


    ;)
     

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