Best defense for a collar grab from a standing position as a pure grappler

[JustOnce]

What would be, as a grappler, the best self-defense approach for the collar grab?

Kinda like a collar grab that you see in a hockey fight ,for example?

 

[rmongler]

 

[Uchi Mata]

If somebody grabs you, it means that hand is occupied and can't defend. So I'd probably throw a hook on that side. As a grappler.

 

[Deleted member 405583]

Osoto gari into living death like my patron @Einarr

 

[nefti]

Grappling answer? Wrist lock. Street answer? Takedown or punch.

 

[nefti]

Ooooooh going on a 100% waki gatame would be badass

 

[Zankou]

Depends on whether high or low.

High and straight arm collar grip I like to cross grip and rip over to arm drag. You can also bump the elbow hard and change levels to a body lock or double leg.

Low collar grip is more annoying to break, but like uchi says, if they holding, they ain’t punching, so go with that.

 

[TheGZA]

Ooooooh going on a 100% waki gatame would be badass

Guy tried to snatch my gym back as I was getting off a train. I snapped his elbow with a straight armlock to the ground (Waki Gatame).

 

[Clinchster]

A same side check hook. or shrug to russian tie.....that would be my instincts (street/ gym respectively)

 

[nefti]

shinya has some nasty ones he pulled off in mma. You can hear the bone snap... like you are snapping chopsticks.

 

[jack36767]

Elbow off

 

[georgegreece]

Ooooooh going on a 100% waki gatame would be badass

But the other guy must have underhook on you, some muai thai collar ties are without the underhook.

 

[rmongler]

But the other guy must have underhook on you, some muai thai collar ties are without the underhook.

Overhook, actually.

 

[nefti]

But the other guy must have underhook on you, some muai thai collar ties are without the underhook.

In no gi I would say yes. But you see it in judo and especially older judo comps

 

[nefti]

Overhook, actually.

I think shinya does both actually. He does one against the underhook also. He is a mean sob

 

[rmongler]

I think shinya does both actually. He does one against the underhook also. He is a mean sob

The famous video of him snapping a guys arm was vs the overhook; vs an underhook you don't really have a hard lever to put your whole bodies torque into it since his arm is behind you rather than in front of you like for a proper waki gatame. In such a case, what one might do might be like the standing americana cranks Jon Jones did to Glover Teixeira.

 

[georgegreece]

The famous video of him snapping a guys arm was vs the overhook; vs an underhook you don't really have a hard lever to put your whole bodies torque into it since his arm is behind you rather than in front of you like for a proper waki gatame. In such a case, what one might do might be like the standing americana cranks Jon Jones did to Glover Teixeira.

I think that's true, shinya does both counters to underhooks and overhooks, he has the overhook counter in his dvds, he has that poor guy that he broke his arm of in his dvd too and it was a counter to the overhook it starts at the 34 min mark of his super techniques DVD.

 

[dudeguyman]

What would be, as a grappler, the best self-defense approach for the collar grab?

Kinda like a collar grab that you see in a hockey fight ,for example?

Hook or uppercut same side as the grab. Since it's self defense you can grab the trachea for alot of leverage while doing some sort of reap or whatever takedown you are comfortable with. Stomp.

 

[judoka loca]

nikyo from aikido.

 

[nefti]

The famous video of him snapping a guys arm was vs the overhook; vs an underhook you don't really have a hard lever to put your whole bodies torque into it since his arm is behind you rather than in front of you like for a proper waki gatame. In such a case, what one might do might be like the standing americana cranks Jon Jones did to Glover Teixeira.

I could swear that I saw a video where he wizzered the underhook and grabbed his hads together and he torqued like crazy. I think it was in a gi match actually