Best mmartist of all time who had terrible boxing?

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  1. Chain Saw

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    GSP.

    He had a good jab but other than that his hands were weaksauce.
     
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  3. Unfinished Sentenc

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    Yeah I always hear people saying GSP has good boxing when he mostly throw jabs and superman punches
     
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    Hmm... I'm gonna have to say Rowdy Rousey
     
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    Honestly, Shields' striking can be effective sometimes...at least on the scorecards. He beat both Woodley and Akiyama by high-volume striking. This included some soft cotton leg kicks that landed on Woodley. Regardless, I think Jake deserved that decision. Woodley did next to nothing.

    Jake's striking is like a C-level version of what the Diaz bros do--high-volume pitter patter. At least the Diaz boys can get cumulative damage and the occasional KO.
     
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    It was still effective enough to outstrike pretty much everyone he fought except Serra (first fight) and maybe Hendricks. He even got the best of prime BJ and Nick Diaz on the feet. So I wouldn't call GSP's boxing bad at all by MMA standards...he just doesn't have any KO power.
     
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    So, by that logic, Floyd Mayweather isn't a good boxer?
     
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    I'm not talking about his power.

    I'm talking about his fluidity, his footwork, his head movement, his combinations, his angles, his technique on his punches, etc.

    His boxing skills are weak sauce.
     
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    Jake Shields and Arona looked clueless
     
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    I don't think he got the best of Nick on the feet tbh.

    He won that fight handily but it wasn't on the feet.
     
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    B... bu... but... but Ronda can beat Floyd.
     
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    Jake Shields basically lost a kickboxing fight to a random guy in Bully Beatdown if I recall correctly.
     
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    It was at least a draw. When GSP started to gas and have trouble taking Nick down around the 3rd/4th round (something the old, pre-ACL injury GSP NEVER did), he was forced to stand and did fine on his feet. And Nick failed to be the aggressor.
     
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    Great pick. Amazing wrestler, insane leg kicks, great positional grappler, horrible boxer.
     
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    Jake Shields is a top 5 all time WW. He was champ in quite a few orgs. He fought top notch opposition, I think he deserves to be called a great.
     
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    wow no mention of Dominick Cruz
     
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