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  1. EzFlyer

    EzFlyer Senior Moderator Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Post here if you have any questions for other bettors.

    "How do moneyline bets work?"

    "What's a good sportsbook to use?"

    etc

    there are NO stupid questions and this is a 100% judgment-free zone
     
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  2. Sadistics

    Sadistics Green Belt

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    I was hoping someone could explain what counts as a win for the below wagers in as much detail as possible.

    if fight goes to scorecards all wagers are no action
    Sun 1/17 1059 Cruz (scorecards = no action) +115
    11:59PM 1060 Dillashaw (scorecards = no action) -145
    any victory inside distance is a winner for selected fighter, see sportsbook rules for grading details
    Sun 1/17 1061 Cruz points handicap +5½ -205
    11:59PM 1062 Dillashaw points handicap -5½ +165
    any victory inside distance is a winner for selected fighter, see sportsbook rules for grading details
    Sun 1/17 1063 Cruz points handicap -5½ +190
    11:59PM 1064 Dillashaw points handicap +5½ -250
     
  3. EzFlyer

    EzFlyer Senior Moderator Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    ok, so the "scorecards = no action" bets mean if it goes to a decision, all bets are voided.

    so if you bet Fighter A vs Fighter B

    Fighter A: scorecards = no action
    fighter A wins by stoppage: you win
    fighter B wins by stoppage: you lose
    fighter A wins by decision: you get your $ back
    fighter B wins by decision: you get your $ back

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    point spread bets:

    fighter A -5.5 vs fighter B +5.5

    if you bet fighter A -5.5:

    fighter A wins by stoppage: you win
    fighter B wins by stoppage: you lose

    if it goes to a decision, you add up the points. so being a 5 rounder, in this example: 50-45 for all 3 judges fighter fighter A would be 15 points. 15 - 5.5 = greater than 0, so you win
    if it's 48-47 for all 3, that would be 3 points. 3 -5.5 = less than 0, so you lose.

    vice versa if you bet the +5.5 one.
     
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  4. Sadistics

    Sadistics Green Belt

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    Thanks Ez, this explains a lot. Does this mean that the below bet was graded incorrectly as Lawler won by 1 point?
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  5. EzFlyer

    EzFlyer Senior Moderator Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    nope, that's correct

    1 + 5.5 = 6.5 6.5 > 0, so it's a W

    if you bet lawler -5.5, you would've lost

    1 - 5.5 = -4.5. 0 > -4.5
     
  6. Wander777

    Wander777 Banned Banned

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    Someone explain this to me;

    Sportsbet
    Points handicap, dillashaw -5.5 @2.87 Cruz +5.5 @1.36

    How fight will End, KO @3.00 Submission @7.50 Points @1.57

    What is the point of the Cruz point line when you can take decision on both fighters at $1.57?
     
  7. EzFlyer

    EzFlyer Senior Moderator Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    cruz +5.5 wins on a cruz ko/sub
     
  8. Wander777

    Wander777 Banned Banned

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    Ahh I see, I had the feeling I was missing something, I thought points line was decision dependent.
     
  9. waiguoren

    waiguoren Black Belt

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    Anyone here use Heritage?
     
  10. Sadistics

    Sadistics Green Belt

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    Can someone explain round robin parlays?
     
  11. EzFlyer

    EzFlyer Senior Moderator Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    a round robin is every leg parlayed together

    so if you do, say, a 4 team RR in 2 teamers, that's 6 parlays in one.

    so if you do a $10 4-team parlay, you risk $10 and win only if all four teams win.

    if you do $10 round robin on 4 teams , there are 6 possible combinations:
    A + B
    A + C
    A + D
    B + C
    B + D
    C + D

    so you'd risk $60 on 10 separate two-teamers. or, alternatively, you could make your RR $1.66 per leg, and you'd still be at $10 risk

    alternatively, if you choose 3-teamers, with 4 teams, there are four possible combinations
    A + B + C
    A + B + D
    A + C + D
    B + C + D

    etc etc.
     
  12. Nightmaree

    Nightmaree Questionmark

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    what is 5 unites ? 50$ ?
     
  13. Agent Mulder

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    5 units usually means 5% of your bankroll.
     
  14. Agent Mulder

    Agent Mulder Black Belt

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    If anyone wants an easy way to convert odds between american, european and fractional odds you can use this website:

    http://oddsconverter.co.uk/
     
  15. JimGunn

    JimGunn Silver Belt

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    A lot of people consider a unit to be a certain percentage of one's bankroll, usually 1%. But others like myself and EZFlyer if I am not mistaken just consider it to be $100, not any specific percentage of our bankroll. I haven't taken a payout in a long time so $100 is much less than 1% of my current bankroll. It's just more a reflection that I tend to bet around one hundred to a few hundred - or 1u to around 3u or 4u if really confident-on a moneyline of an MMA fight.
     
  16. EzFlyer

    EzFlyer Senior Moderator Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    yep. we're the rare breed, tho

    but yep. spot-on, jim, that's how i do it, you adapted this well and are kickin ass w/me :)

    most people do it as % of bankroll (which is usually about right for me, but not exclusively. it's just $100 all year, no matter if i go above or below 10k in my accounts etc)
     
  17. Gregorylane

    Gregorylane White Belt

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    Need some feedback about Ohmbet; seen some good odds there, but think they are new sportsbook
    If anyone tried them Iet me know, payouts are quick? I want to bet on Thompson, Roy Nelson, OSP this saturday
     
  18. bruthead

    bruthead Blue Belt

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    They aren't even listed here:

    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/sportsbooks/

    Which has many more books than I have heard of. I wouldn't risk it, especially because their odds don't look particularly different to the general odds - what's wrong with other, more established books?
     
  19. arrelione

    arrelione Member of the YES!!! Revolution

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    Hi

    For the ones of you who have VIP account at your bookies.
    What is the minimum(approximately) you have to play for? And at what site are you VIP, mostly interested in if it's a EU or American site.

    Thanks guys.
     
  20. Joseph Budden

    Joseph Budden Banned Banned

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    Straight up. Same as ML pretty much which means moneyline
     

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