International Birth Tourism: How Wealthy Chinese Use Loophole To Secure American and Canadian Citizenships

No Moran, the minister is not calling Chinese business people "shady". Interest free loans to the governemt for free residency is a dumb program period and I never said otherwise.
Did I call all Chinese people shady? Or did I say a group I came into contact at work were shady? You better get that right before going full retard. Trickle down Kool-Aid and race card are not good for your intelligence.

Policy that allowed wealthy foreigners into country criticized for failing to generate economic benefits.

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Ot...rant+program/9496380/story.html#ixzz3UWJJUlLv
 
‘Birth tourism’ investigation: Expectant moms from China not backing down, still want U.S. babies
By Roxana Kopetman | Orange County Register | March 17, 2015

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Attorney Ken Z. Liang is representing individuals who were served search warrants last week during a federal crackdown in Southern California on three birth tourism companies. Authorities have asked four of his clients to serve as material witnesses against the companies that police say aided pregnant Chinese women traveling to U.S. to give birth. The babies would automatically become American citizens.

Most, if not all, of the women at the center of a suspected birth tourism operation in Irvine, who traveled from China to give birth to American babies, are sticking with their plan. They won’t go back home until their babies are born.

They have hired attorneys. Their husbands or other family members have flown in. And while they are preparing to leave the Irvine apartment complex where they were staying, they’re looking for new places in Southern California to hunker down during their pregnancies.

Meanwhile, the government is looking to build a case against the company that brought the women to Orange County, along with two similar companies operating in Los Angeles and San Bernardino counties that specialize in a practice dubbed birth tourism.

In court hearings this week, four of the Chinese visitors in Orange County and 24 in Riverside were designated as material witnesses, meaning they are temporarily required to remain in the country, said Thom Mrozek, public affairs officer for the U.S. Attorney’s Office in L.A.

Homeland Security Investigations agents accuse the operators of three birth tourism companies of various crimes, including visa fraud, tax evasion, money laundering and conspiracy.

The government is targeting the companies and not the pregnant women.

No charges have been filed against any of the companies: You Win USA Vacation Resort, USA Happy Baby Inc. and Star Baby Care. The companies have been unavailable for comment.

SCARY MORNING

For the women, their world turned upside down early on the morning of March 3.

That’s when agents from local and federal agencies pounded on their doors to serve search warrants at three dozen apartments and houses in Irvine, Mission Viejo, Rancho Cucamonga, Rowland Heights and Walnut.

In Orange County, 12 of the units searched are at the Carlyle at Colton Plaza in Irvine, near the airport and across the street from an office belonging to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

Irvine attorney Ken Z. Liang, who represents seven of the women at the Carlyle, called the scene “discombobulated.”

“Everything was in a state of stress and disarray,” Liang said.

“Most mothers went to this location because You Win advertised the pregnancy center as an enclosed place (and) extremely safe,” Liang said. “They were expecting a lot of peace and quiet.”

Since the raid, some of the pregnant women have left the Carlyle and others are looking for new places to stay, Liang said.

During a visit to the apartments this week, You Win nannies in pastel-toned clothing could be seen caring for babies, while other staff members delivered food to apartments. Several families were readying to move. Liang said family members have flown in from China to help the women.

“All the families I talked with have accepted their current predicament, but they are angry at You Win pregnancy center for telling them their operation was completely legal. And all the individuals paid a premium to be at this so-called legal, seven-star pregnancy center.”

The women paid $40,000 to $60,000 to You Win for the accommodations and services, which include meals, transportation and outings. That fee did not include medical and hospital bills, Liang said.

You Win operators are working to accommodate their current clientele by offering pro-rated refunds and renegotiating its contract with the Carlyle, Liang said. Some of the women are getting eviction notices because You Win had not paid this month’s rent, he said.

LEGAL QUESTIONS

Federal investigators said the maternity companies coached the women on what to wear and what to say to avoid being singled out for their pregnancies as they entered the country. In one case, an employee made up employment and income information for a client who turned out to be an undercover federal agent, according to court documents.

Liang acknowledged that You Win advised women to wear loose clothing. But he said his clients did nothing illegal and they confirmed their pregnancies when asked. “The pregnancy center told them, if anyone asks you about your pregnancy you have to be honest.”

It is not illegal for a foreigner to give birth in the United States. U.S. law does prohibit issuing a non-immigrant visa to anyone who is likely to become a public charge to the state, including those who might require medical care.

Customs and Border Patrol agents who question pregnant visitors upon arrival would take into consideration the due date of a pregnancy, how long the tourist plans to stay in the country and whether she has proof that she can pay for the medical care. Entry is allowed or denied at the discretion of the admitting officer, according to the Department of Homeland Security.

Immigration officials also pointed out that lying on a visa application is illegal.

Liang said the women had two options on their applications: business or pleasure. The women said they were traveling for pleasure.

During interviews at the U.S. Embassy in China and at their port of entry, a few were asked if they were pregnant and they said yes, according to Liang. They were not denied entry.

In court documents, federal agents said many of the women went through vacation destinations to avoid greater scrutiny at Los Angeles International Airport. Liang said his clients came through Hawaii first because they wanted to vacation there.

The attorney also responded to government accusations that some women leave the country without paying their medical bills. He said his clients get a price reduction from doctors and hospitals because they pay in full.

Several of his clients, he said, are here to have a second child, which is difficult in China.

Liang said he asked his new clients why they came to the United States. “They say America is the strongest nation on this planet and the fairest.”

CONTROVERSIAL VISITORS

The raids elicited numerous tips about other suspected similar operations, and officials said they are looking into them, as resources allow.

One group, the Orange Club Political Action Committee, urged the federal government to protect the rights of the pregnant women and newborns.

“We’re not against cracking down on illegal activities, but we think this was way out of proportion,” said Alex Chen, president of the group that advocates for Chinese Americans.

The government should allocate resources instead to addressing the bigger issue of illegal immigration and the estimated 11.5 million people residing in the United States without permission, he said.

An ICE spokeswoman said: “Any scenario that involves the subversion of the visa application process poses a potential security vulnerability and demands further scrutiny.”

Meanwhile, Liang said his clients should be welcome here.

“We shouldn’t be ashamed to have these people here. We fashion democracy and hospitality and perhaps the next export of American culture is a little baby that is born here.”

 
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Jeb Bush: Asians abusing US birthright citizenship

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Washington (AFP) - Republican White House hopeful Jeb Bush on Monday accused Asians of abusing rules allowing infants born in the United States to be American citizens, amid a campaign row over immigration.

Bush has clashed with rivals -- including the Republican presidential frontrunner billionaire Donald Trump and top Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton -- over use of the term "anchor babies," a derogatory description of children born in the United States to undocumented parents.

Migrants' rights activists see the term as a slur used by anti-immigration campaigners to describe the babies of those who sneak across the border to give birth, gifting their offspring US citizenship and enhancing the parents' legal status.

But on Monday during a visit to Texas near the US border with Mexico, when responding to a question about whether the "anchor baby" row would hurt his ability to win the Hispanic vote, Bush said the situation has more to do with other immigrants.

"What I was talking about was the specific case of fraud being committed where there's organized efforts -- and frankly it's more related to Asian people coming into our country, having children in that organized effort, taking advantage of a noble concept with birthright citizenship," Bush said.

"My background, my life, the fact that I'm immersed in the immigrant experience -- this is ludicrous for the Clinton campaign and others to suggest that somehow I'm using a derogatory term.

"I support the 14th Amendment," he said of the constitutional guarantee of citizenship to anyone born in the country.

Trump has called for possibly scrapping the law, saying birthright citizenship boosts illegal immigration. On Friday, he claimed 300,000 babies were born last year in the United States from undocumented immigrants.

That is lower than the 340,000 babies born in 2008 to unauthorized immigrant parents -- about eight percent of all babies born that year -- according to a 2010 study by Pew Research Center.

The organization also said Asians made up the largest share of recent immigrants at 36 percent of the total, surpassing the 31 percent who were of Hispanic origin.

Last March, US investigators raided dozens of Los Angeles locations suspected of offering "maternity tourism" services for pregnant Chinese women wanting to gain US citizenship for their children.

Some mothers were paying over $50,000 for packages designed to allow them to give birth in the United States, the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency said.

Last week Bush sparked criticism when he told a conservative radio show that the United States needs "better enforcement so that you don't have these, you know, 'anchor babies,' as they're described, coming into the country."

"They're called babies," Clinton said on Twitter.


http://news.yahoo.com/jeb-bush-asians-abusing-us-birthright-citizenship-222325629.html
 
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How far Chinese moms will go to have U.S. babies

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It's no secret -- moms will do just about anything for their kids.

Some are even willing to commit visa fraud, lie to immigration officers and pay tens of thousands of dollars to shady middlemen -- as long as the payoff is a U.S. passport for their newborn.

An underground "birth tourism" network that stretches from the U.S. to China has sprung up to cater to growing numbers of Chinese mothers who travel stateside to give birth, according to affidavits filed by federal law enforcement officers. The moms are lured by laws that grant U.S. citizenship to anyone born on American soil.

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The federal government carried out a series of raids in early March on maternity hotels.

Department of Homeland Security agents carried out a series of "birth tourism" raids earlier this month as part of a larger criminal investigation targeting companies in California that have netted millions helping pregnant Chinese women fraudulently secure visas and scam hospitals.

Documents made public as part of the investigation shed light on the lengths that expectant Chinese mothers are willing to go for an American baby. Here's a look at some of the tactics:

Lie on your visa application
Pregnant women from China are allowed to vacation in the U.S., after securing a travel visa from the U.S. government. But if someone misrepresents the reason for visiting, that's visa fraud.

DHS documents describe one Chinese woman, and her partner, who claimed to be traveling to the U.S. for tourism on their visa application. A U.S. consular officer concluded after an interview that they were "credible tourists" traveling for fun, according to DHS.

On the visa application, the woman even put a Los Angeles hotel as the address where she would be staying. But she later listed a different one on a U.S. passport application for her newborn. That second address was for a unit in a high-end Irvine, California apartment complex where one birth tourism company had rented a number of homes, according to DHS.

The company that used the apartments, You Win USA, was one of three targets in the DHS raids carried out early March.DHS is investigating the people who run You Win, and similar businesses, for alleged visa fraud, tax evasion, failure to report overseas assets and scamming hospitals.

DHS spokeswoman Virginia Kice said no criminal charges have yet been filed, and no arrests made. DHS is reviewing evidence seized during the raids and statements from witnesses.

You Win recommended moms who wanted to give birth in the U.S. apply for tourist visas far in advance to avoid detection by U.S. authorities, and even coached clients how to lie in their interview, according to DHS documents.

Over the past two years, You Win's alleged visa fraud scheme resulted in more than 400 births at just one California hospital, Fountain Valley Regional. The hospital didn't respond to a request for comment.

Leave without paying hospital bills
Some You Win clients allegedly defrauded hospitals by not paying what they owe. They "either fail to pay anything or pay a greatly-reduced amount designed for indigent or low income patients lacking insurance," according to DHS.

Records obtained by the agency show the couple found to be "credible tourists" paid only $4,080 of a $28,845.29 medical bill from the California hospital where their child was born. The expectant Chinese mother told the hospital that she was unemployed -- though she had listed a job on her original visa application.

DHS documents suggest the couple could have afforded to pay the full bill. They opened a Citibank account within weeks of arriving in the U.S. last February, and wired over $200,000 from China into the account. Plus, numerous charges were made from the account over the course of three months at places like the Wynn Las Vegas Hotel, Bose, Rolex in Costa Mesa and Louis Vuitton in Beverly Hills.

Sail past immigration at the airport
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A cartoon posted on You Win's website shows a pregnant mom entering the U.S. on the left, and returning to China on the right with her American baby.

In an undercover investigation, DHS found that You Win employees not only prep moms to pass the visa interview, but also train them to clear immigration once they arrive. "The earlier the better, in order to conceal the pregnancy," one You Win agent said, according to government documents.

You Win even suggested that moms fly from China to places like Hawaii before connecting to Los Angeles -- where immigration security is tighter.

California, in particular, is popular with Chinese moms -- they have their pick of maternity hotels, and if their ties to the state deepen over time, the children may be eligible for lower tuition rates at University of California schools.

According to the federal affidavits, You Win clients pay up to $60,000 for the company's services. These firms often also line up chauffeurs, meals, translators and sightseeing trips.

The long run
Once moms get a U.S. passport for their kid, they essentially have a ticket out of China if they grow weary of pollution, food safety scares and political volatility. At 21, American-born children can apply to sponsor their parents for residency in the U.S.

While other foreigners also come to the U.S. for the sole purpose of giving birth, the Chinese appear to be the only group willing to pay high sums for the services of these birth tourism companies.

Following the raids carried out by DHS agents, websites linked to You Win were taken offline. Multiple calls to numbers DHS linked to the company were unsuccessful. At least one of the phone numbers has been disconnected.

http://money.cnn.com/2015/03/30/news/china-moms-birth-tourism-fraud/
 
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How far Chinese moms will go to have U.S. babies

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It's no secret -- moms will do just about anything for their kids.

Some are even willing to commit visa fraud, lie to immigration officers and pay tens of thousands of dollars to shady middlemen -- as long as the payoff is a U.S. passport for their newborn.

An underground "birth tourism" network that stretches from the U.S. to China has sprung up to cater to growing numbers of Chinese mothers who travel stateside to give birth, according to affidavits filed by federal law enforcement officers. The moms are lured by laws that grant U.S. citizenship to anyone born on American soil.

150318093443-chinese-maternity-arrest-780x439.jpg

The federal government carried out a series of raids in early March on maternity hotels.

Department of Homeland Security agents carried out a series of "birth tourism" raids earlier this month as part of a larger criminal investigation targeting companies in California that have netted millions helping pregnant Chinese women fraudulently secure visas and scam hospitals.

Documents made public as part of the investigation shed light on the lengths that expectant Chinese mothers are willing to go for an American baby. Here's a look at some of the tactics:

Lie on your visa application
Pregnant women from China are allowed to vacation in the U.S., after securing a travel visa from the U.S. government. But if someone misrepresents the reason for visiting, that's visa fraud.

DHS documents describe one Chinese woman, and her partner, who claimed to be traveling to the U.S. for tourism on their visa application. A U.S. consular officer concluded after an interview that they were "credible tourists" traveling for fun, according to DHS.

On the visa application, the woman even put a Los Angeles hotel as the address where she would be staying. But she later listed a different one on a U.S. passport application for her newborn. That second address was for a unit in a high-end Irvine, California apartment complex where one birth tourism company had rented a number of homes, according to DHS.

The company that used the apartments, You Win USA, was one of three targets in the DHS raids carried out early March.DHS is investigating the people who run You Win, and similar businesses, for alleged visa fraud, tax evasion, failure to report overseas assets and scamming hospitals.

DHS spokeswoman Virginia Kice said no criminal charges have yet been filed, and no arrests made. DHS is reviewing evidence seized during the raids and statements from witnesses.

You Win recommended moms who wanted to give birth in the U.S. apply for tourist visas far in advance to avoid detection by U.S. authorities, and even coached clients how to lie in their interview, according to DHS documents.

Over the past two years, You Win's alleged visa fraud scheme resulted in more than 400 births at just one California hospital, Fountain Valley Regional. The hospital didn't respond to a request for comment.

Leave without paying hospital bills
Some You Win clients allegedly defrauded hospitals by not paying what they owe. They "either fail to pay anything or pay a greatly-reduced amount designed for indigent or low income patients lacking insurance," according to DHS.

Records obtained by the agency show the couple found to be "credible tourists" paid only $4,080 of a $28,845.29 medical bill from the California hospital where their child was born. The expectant Chinese mother told the hospital that she was unemployed -- though she had listed a job on her original visa application.

DHS documents suggest the couple could have afforded to pay the full bill. They opened a Citibank account within weeks of arriving in the U.S. last February, and wired over $200,000 from China into the account. Plus, numerous charges were made from the account over the course of three months at places like the Wynn Las Vegas Hotel, Bose, Rolex in Costa Mesa and Louis Vuitton in Beverly Hills.

Sail past immigration at the airport
150323094251-chinese-mother-cartoon-340xa.jpg

A cartoon posted on You Win's website shows a pregnant mom entering the U.S. on the left, and returning to China on the right with her American baby.

In an undercover investigation, DHS found that You Win employees not only prep moms to pass the visa interview, but also train them to clear immigration once they arrive. "The earlier the better, in order to conceal the pregnancy," one You Win agent said, according to government documents.

You Win even suggested that moms fly from China to places like Hawaii before connecting to Los Angeles -- where immigration security is tighter.

California, in particular, is popular with Chinese moms -- they have their pick of maternity hotels, and if their ties to the state deepen over time, the children may be eligible for lower tuition rates at University of California schools.

According to the federal affidavits, You Win clients pay up to $60,000 for the company's services. These firms often also line up chauffeurs, meals, translators and sightseeing trips.

The long run
Once moms get a U.S. passport for their kid, they essentially have a ticket out of China if they grow weary of pollution, food safety scares and political volatility. At 21, American-born children can apply to sponsor their parents for residency in the U.S.

While other foreigners also come to the U.S. for the sole purpose of giving birth, the Chinese appear to be the only group willing to pay high sums for the services of these birth tourism companies.

Following the raids carried out by DHS agents, websites linked to You Win were taken offline. Multiple calls to numbers DHS linked to the company were unsuccessful. At least one of the phone numbers has been disconnected.

http://money.cnn.com/2015/03/30/news/china-moms-birth-tourism-fraud/


Housing futures rose 300% on news of the impending increase in the Asian population and the economy then imploded as a result......
 
I dont see whats wrong, these are wealthy Chinese, they want their kids to be US citizenship because most likely they will be shielded that way from any political problems in China.
two problems

a) it's still illegal, no matter how you slice it. we want legal immigrants, which brings me to the next point
b) it's a sign of how broken the immigration process is, if wealthy educated women have to go to such extreme lengths to live here clearly our immigration system is broken as fuck.
 
The whole fucking world uses us. Build the wall.

Look at this genius over here.

Where do you want to build your wall? How tall will it have to be in order to stop airlines from landing their passenger planes at LAX?

Unless you enjoy getting shit on, read the fucking OP to know what the thread is about before showing off your stupidity for the world to see.
 
I saw this a few times, I think. Some of the kids I taught in China (2-3 of them IIRC) left for a few months to the U.S for their mothers to have another baby, then came home. I think all went to Cali, too. L.A for sure, with two of them.
 
Feds Raid 'Maternity Hotels' Where Tourists Paid Up to $80K to Give Birth in U.S.
By Melina Delkic On 1/10/18

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Federal agents raided a slew of luxury “maternity hotels” in California on Wednesday for allegedly housing Chinese women who wanted to give birth in America.

Department of Homeland Security officials stormed 20 locations in Los Angeles, Orange County and San Bernardino County looking for suspected "birth tourism" operations, in which Chinese nationals allegedly paid "handlers" between $40,000 and $80,000 to advise them on obtaining visas, flying through the least suspicious airports and even disguising their pregnancies, NBC News reported.

One such building was The Carlyle, a luxury apartment building in Irvine, which was the focus of the bust. A neighbor near that building told NBC that she found it strange that a forklift delivered an excessive quantity of diapers to the building, but did not realize the extent of the scheme.

Though it’s not illegal to have their babies in the United States, birth tourists usually lie to immigration officials about their reasons for travel, according to an official cited by NBC. The bigger focus, however, are the organizers of websites that targeted women in China and sold the "maternity hotel" stays to them.

For that reason, authorities did not arrest the women staying in the buildings on Wednesday, but instead will use them as witnesses in an attempt to prosecute the "handlers."

The Carlyle has been previously suspected of birth tourism as part of a long-spanning probe, starting in June 2014.

A separate incident occurred in California in 2015, when officials charged 10 Chinese nationals with violating court orders to stay in the U.S. as they investigated the practice.

Birth tourism has been somewhat popular in the United States, with court papers cited in the NBC article estimating that 40,000 children every year were born to women who are in the U.S. on a travel visa.

https://www.newsweek.com/feds-raid-maternity-hotels-birth-tourists-777643
 
‘Birth tourism’ uses Canadian hospitals to make non-resident babies into citizens
By Sasha Zeidle , Global News | March 28, 2018​

A petition calling for a crackdown on so-called “birth tourism” is gaining momentum.

Metro Vancouver residents are spearheading a petition to put an end to birth tourism in Canada.

Lifelong Richmond resident Kerry Starchuk has put forward an online petition urging the Canadian government to reduce and eliminate birth tourism, a practice that sees pregnant women travelling to a foreign country in order to give birth and grant the baby automatic citizenship.

Starchuk has campaigned against the practice for the past two years, after she discovered a growing number of cases in Richmond.

She claimed that a home near hers was serving as a “birth-house,” where she would consistently see assistants walking with different pregnant women on her street, caring for them while they were in the country to give birth.

Many “birth houses” are being advertised as travel agencies, Starchuk said.

Though these women are paying for their services, neither they, nor their children, make any long-term contributions to Canada, she said.

“They’re bringing people intentionally advertising overseas to say you can come and have free healthcare, free schools, bring your seniors in and you can have them in senior homes,” she said.

The petition said birth tourism is “fundamentally debasing the value of Canadian citizenship.”

The practice “can be used to gain access to Canada’s publicly subsidized post-secondary education system and to take advantage of Canada’s public health care system and generous social security programs.”

All of this, the petition claimed, “without having to contribute much to the funding of these systems and programs.”

Steveston-Richmond East Liberal MP Joe Peschisolido sponsored the petition, saying that “birth tourism, as a concept, is wrong,” as it puts women flying from other countries at risk.

“[This petition holds a] practical approach. That’s the role of government, to help folks and if there is a problem, to quantify and then fix it,” Peschisolido said.

“I do believe that birth tourism is abusive to our immigration system.”

The petition calls on the House of Commons to make a public statement opposing birth tourism, to determine the full extent of the practice throughout Canada and implement measures to reduce and, ultimately, eliminate the practice.

This isn’t Starchuk’s first attempt to refine Canada’s citizenship process.

In 2016, she put forward a petition to end jus soli, also known as automatic birthright citizenship, garnering 8,800 signatures.

That petition, however, was unsuccessful, as the government felt that revoking birthright citizenship would change too drastically the process through which people obtain it in the first place.

“We didn’t succeed the first time and the problem is still an issue,” Starchuk said.

“It turned into a business, and it’s underground so it’s not regulated.”

The current petition to end birth tourism will be open until July 17; it has drawn over 1,800 signatures since March 19.
 
B.C. says it’s concerned about ‘birth tourism.’ It’s still not cracking down
By Kyle Benning and CKNW | March 30, 2018​

B.C. won’t take any action against so-called “birth tourism,” despite concerns from Richmond residents and a local MP, said the province’s health minister.

Birth tourism is a practice that sees pregnant women travel to a country in order to give birth, thereby securing citizenship for their child.

Critics have launched a parliamentary E-petition against the practice, which they say can be used to “gain access to Canada’s publicly subsidized post-secondary education system” and the country’s public health care system, “all without having to contribute much to the funding of these systems and programs.”

Wwhile that the province does have concerns about the practice, it’s up to the federal government to make changes, said Health Minister Adrian Dix.

“The responsibility and role of the health care system is to provide services. The responsibility of federal members of parliament is to deal with issues such as immigration and I appreciate that they may be raising them, but that’s their responsibility,” he said.

“So we’re doing what we think needs to be done.”

There were 384 babies of non-resident parents born at Richmond Hospital between 2016 and 2017, and Steveston-Richmond East Liberal MP Joe Peschisolido said one in five babies born there in 2016 were to non-resident parents.

However, immigration lawyer Richard Kurland told Global News that birth tourism numbers have been stable for years, and that apparent growth has been driven by new definitions of non-residents.

Dix said that despite the concerns, so-called “birth tourists” aren’t having a negative impact on the province’s health services.

“Some people have expressed some concerns that there isn’t space at times. But that is something that is a rare proposition here in Vancouver Coastal Health. So we’re concerned about it. We don’t support it in any way as a government,” he said.

The petition called on the House of Commons to make a public statement opposing birth tourism, to determine the full extent of the practice throughout Canada and implement measures to reduce and, ultimately, eliminate the practice.

It remains open until July 17, and nearly 5,800 people have signed so far.

 
As birth tourism climbs in B.C., health authority files $312,595 lawsuit over one unpaid childbirth bill
Pamela Fayerman | June 21, 2018

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Record numbers of so-called birth tourists, mainly from China, are expected at Richmond Hospital this year. Yet the Vancouver Coastal Health Authority has no plans to deter women from having their babies at the hospital to give them Canadian citizenship, despite suing a woman for nonpayment of $313,000 for her delivery.

The lawsuit filed in April relates to a birth in 2012 that involved complications and kept the lawsuit defendant, Yan Xia, and her infant, in the hospital for an extended time. Xia has not yet filed a statement of defence.

Although the hospital reserves the right to add interest charges of two per cent a month to unpaid bills, a spokeswoman said that is not the plan at this point. If such interest were to be added, the bill would exceed $1 million.

There has been a steady increase in the number of babies born to non-resident mothers at Richmond Hospital, to 384 in 2016-17 from 18 in 2010. Halfway through the 2017-18 fiscal year, there were 189 non-resident births, according to VCH spokeswoman Carrie Stefanson.

While all pregnant women are asked to register well in advance of giving birth so that hospital resources can be planned, there have been no measures taken by the hospital to deter birth tourism, which now accounts for 20 per cent of its deliveries. That is believed to be the highest proportion in the province, if not Canada. B.C. Women’s Hospital discourages birth tourism through various policies and practices. At times, Richmond Hospital has to send local women in labour to other hospitals when it is too busy.

The birth tourism phenomenon is tied to several factors, including Richmond’s demographics, a preponderance of “birth houses” for pregnant Chinese women in the city, the large number of doctors and nurses who speak Cantonese or Mandarin, and an industry fuelled by brokers who charge high fees to make the arrangements for women wanting to have so-called “anchor” babies in Canada.

Stefanson said she believes the Xia case is the only maternity lawsuit over $100,000 so far. Typically, the health authority uses other means to collect unpaid bills.

“VCH has invoiced non-residents for approximately $43 million in (all kinds of medical) services in the past year, and has collected about 80 per cent of that amount,” she said.

In the Xia case, such efforts have been unsuccessful, and with a six-year deadline for legal action approaching, the health authority decided it was time to take that action. Xia’s whereabouts are unknown.

Stefanson said the hospital exists to provide health care and will never deny urgent hospital care to anyone based on their ability to pay or where they are from.

She said the health authority expects foreigners will have travel insurance or some other means of paying. Non-resident pregnant women who go to any hospital in B.C. are expected to pay a deposit of $8,200 for a vaginal birth and $13,300 for a caesarean delivery. If they stay in the hospital for at least a night, there may be additional charges. In the past year, VCH has invoiced non-resident maternity clients $6.2 million, and 82 per cent of that amount has been recovered.

An article posted on the “Hongcouver” blog in the South China Morning Post says Richmond is at the centre of the birth tourism phenomenon. It highlighted one “birth house” called the Baoma Inn and its Instagram account showing photos of smiling expectant or post-delivery Chinese mothers enjoying touristy outings around Vancouver. Also pictured are newborns asleep, next to their new Canadian passports. In addition to pre- and post-partum accommodation, the inn is said to be able to arrange birth certificate and passport services plus getting newborns enrolled in the B.C. Medical Services Plan so they can receive publicly funded health care after they’ve resided in the province for three months.

The Baoma Inn is one of the dozens of so-called birth houses in Richmond. It is not known what birth house the defendant in the VCH case used, or even if she stayed in one.

The South China Morning Post article pointed out that Canada is one of a few countries (including the U.S.) that offers citizenship to babies born in the country, regardless of the nationality of parents. By contrast, in China, nationality is acquired upon birth only if one parent is a Chinese national, similar to policies in Australia and Britain.

David Georgetti, the Mandarin-speaking lawyer retained by VCH to litigate the case, could not be reached for comment.

 
$6.2 million invoiced to non-residents who gave birth at Richmond Hospital last year
Graeme Wood / Richmond News | July 4, 2018

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Non-residents paying to give birth at Richmond Hospital accounted for 22 per cent of all births last year, up from 17 per cent the year prior.

In the 2017/2018 fiscal year, Vancouver Coastal Health reported 474 babies born in Richmond to 469 non-residents, who were invoiced $6.2 million, of which $1.1 million has yet to be paid, according to officials.

Non-resident births exploded in Richmond in 2014. Over the past four years, Richmond Hospital has birthed 1,493 babies from non-resident mothers, accounting for 17.6 per cent of all births (8,493).

Widely thought to be foreigners, largely from China, seeking to gain Canadian citizenship by birthright for their newborns, an online Parliamentary petition ending July 17 seeks to have the federal government condemn the rising rate of birth tourism and explore methods to discourage the burgeoning cross-border business.

The petition was created by local community activist Kerry Starchuk and is sponsored by Liberal MP Joe Peschisolido.

Richmond is home to several birth houses. As part of advertised month-to-month accommodation packages, birth house operators typically assist women coming from overseas to give birth to an “anchor baby.”

It is not illegal to enter Canada to give birth but it is illegal to misrepresent your intentions, according to Canada Border Services Agency.

Starchuk is opposed to the practice on ethical grounds and Peschisolido has called it an abuse of the immigration system, although he wants to maintain birthright citizenship.

Non-residents are required to make a pre-payment deposit of $8,200 for a vaginal birth and $13,300 for a caesarean birth. Non-residents are required to pay all hospital costs and medical care for the mother and baby, according to VCH spokesperson Carrie Stefanson.

Not all the bills are being paid, however, particularly when costs exceed a routine birth.

In the past year, VCH invoiced non-residents for approximately $6.2 million in maternity services at Richmond Hospital, and recovered approximately 82 per cent of that amount, said Stefanson, via email.

“It’s important to note that the larger value maternity cases arising from complications skew the VCH recovery statistics,” said Stefanson.

VCH is presently suing a woman for skipping out on a $312,595 neonatal bill in 2012. The claim could be worth as much as about $1.2 million, including interest.

The News understands that VCH has no way to ensure security against a large maternity bill. A baby of a non-resident’s baby does not qualify for public health insurance (MSP).

“Vancouver Coastal Health will never deny urgent and emergent care based on ability to pay or where a patient is from, but we do expect to be compensated as we are accountable to BC residents for hospital and health care services,” said Stefanson.

“We are committed to collecting compensation from non-residents who use our medical services;” she added.

“We encourage women intending to use Richmond Hospital’s maternity services to pre-register with us 6-8 weeks prior to their due date. This may not reduce demand on our services but it will help us be more proactive in our planning. Most women pre-register and receive prenatal care.”

Nationality isn’t routinely tracked but a tabulation by hospital officials in 2016 showed Chinese nationals accounting for 98 per cent of non-resident births. According to some birth house operators, Richmond is a popular location for Chinese nationals due to the city's multilingual services and proximity to China as a Western country that allows such automatic citizenship. Only Canada and the U.S. allow two non-status foreigners to give birth on its sovereign soil and have their baby become a citizen. The practice is under greater scrutiny from U.S. President Donald Trump.

 
I dont see whats wrong, these are wealthy Chinese, they want their kids to be US citizenship because most likely they will be shielded that way from any political problems in China.

Or they will be taken back to China as soon as they are healthy enough to get on a plane be raised and educted the Xi Jim Ping way and go back to America when they are like in their mid 20s to politically influence the US and maybe one day Mr.Xi Jin Ping the 3rd will be the plesident of the USA or the Peoples rebpublic of Murica.
 
Government officials in Russia/China/Vietnam call it "safety landings", so they can high-tail out of the country and fly to the U.S with their suitcase of cash if things gets heated, and their Green Cards are secured for $500,000 (http://www.uscis.gov/green-card/green-card-through-job/green-card-through-investment).

Haven't happen in conservative Orange County yet because our town is pretty hostile towards commies, but it's rampant in liberal NorCal.
SNA is republican town? Ah now I get why my uncles,aunts and my Father were all republican.
 
Ask the BC citizens how much they love that China basically owns BC now
 
Ask the BC citizens how much they love that China basically owns BC now


One day China will own half the world they are the master race there is so many of them.
 
I dont see whats wrong, these are wealthy Chinese, they want their kids to be US citizenship because most likely they will be shielded that way from any political problems in China.
It’s abusing the system. This is how things get ruined for everyone.
 
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