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Kosen is a rule set, not a style of judo. There are no “kosen judo” techniques.
Kosen is a rule set, not a style of judo. There are no “kosen judo” techniques.
Kosen is a rule set, not a style of judo. There are no “kosen judo” techniques.
Rule sets make styles. The rules you are training for determine exactly what your game will be. Kosen Judo is as much of its own style as BJJ is. What makes BJJ not "just Judo?" Rules...
If you roll with a real Kosen guy and another guy who's trained 100 percent for modern Olympic rules... Their games will be very different. Why is this a hard concept to grasp around here?
Because Kosen is a rule set for high school/young college kids. It’s not a style unto itself, it is solely practiced in a very few universities in Japan and maybe a few offshoot clubs . There are no belts awarded in Kosen judo. Kids graduate from high school and go on to university and practice Olympic style rules.
Saying kosen judo is a different style than kodokan judo is like saying t-ball is a different style than baseball.
Some white guy in Midwest America claiming to teach “Kosen judo” would probably be full of shit.
Most of what you said is irrelevant to the point. Kosen Judo being practiced by a small group of people nowadays has no bearing on it being a style or not. Having a different belt system or not means nothing. Wrestling has no belt system and there are many different styled of wrestling. Folk style wrestling practiced in highschools and colleges of the U.S. is a different style than freestyle wrestling found in the Olympics. Same thing with Kosen and Olympic Judo. They are different styles of Judo. The rules are quite different which leads to different tactics being developed. The Kosen Judo guys have always been there own niche group within but quite distinctive from the Kodokan. ofcourse great Judoka no matter where they come from, go on the complete in Olympic Judo because that is the most prestigious platform in the world for Judo. There is no Olympic sport for Kosen. Just like there is no Olympic sport for American folkstyle wrestling. If they want to compete they have to do freestyle.
Koji Komuro, one of the greatest examples for this generation for Kosen style, competed, and still competes in Olympic Judo. I have his book and all of his DVDs, and he constantly refers to the newaza he's teaching as Kosen Judo. I think he knows what Kosen Judo is or isn't better than you.
So he’s teaching Newaza techniques that aren’t in the Kodokan syllabus?
Hey man, its not kosen judo its kosen JUJITSU. My teach isn't full of shit man. C'mon down for a class you can try it out for free.Because Kosen is a rule set for high school/young college kids. It’s not a style unto itself, it is solely practiced in a very few universities in Japan and maybe a few offshoot clubs . There are no belts awarded in Kosen judo. Kids graduate from high school and go on to university and practice Olympic style rules.
Saying kosen judo is a different style than kodokan judo is like saying t-ball is a different style than baseball.
Some white guy in Midwest America claiming to teach “Kosen judo” would probably be full of shit.
Hey man, its not kosen judo its kosen JUJITSU. My teach isn't full of shit man. C'mon down for a class you can try it out for free.
http://combat-jujitsu.com/cjj/about.htmlJust out of curiosity? What is your instructors lineage? Why does he use the term Kosen Jujitsu? It doesn't make sense to use the term Kosen this way, given that Kosen is short for
"kōtō senmon gakkō" which means higher technical colleges found in Japan. There is no college Jujitsu that I know of. Not saying he's not legit. Just curious. Did he just like the name?
OkHIV from grappling is almost impossible unless you're screwing your partners outside the mat. Hepatitis on the other hand is possible because of blood.
Oh and lineage of my instructor is he is the son of the the black belt the founder chose to take over for him and the current instructor.Just out of curiosity? What is your instructors lineage? Why does he use the term Kosen Jujitsu? It doesn't make sense to use the term Kosen this way, given that Kosen is short for
"kōtō senmon gakkō" which means higher technical colleges found in Japan. There is no college Jujitsu that I know of. Not saying he's not legit. Just curious. Did he just like the name?
It's all Jiu-Jitsu to me.I got a little confused the other night when talking to someone who does Ju Jitsu. I said I've just started doing a bit of BJJ. The other guy said, yes I do Ju Jitsu also. I said, no I think Brazilian Ju Jitsu is alot different, he said no, its the same, and I thought....haven't got a clue as I know nothing about normal Ju Jitsu. Can anyone help me put an end to this?
Thanks
Get a load of this post from 2005!leg locks are a dishonorable way to win...
Rule sets make styles. The rules you are training for determine exactly what your game will be. Kosen Judo is as much of its own style as BJJ is. What makes BJJ not "just Judo?" Rules...
If you roll with a real Kosen guy and another guy who's trained 100 percent for modern Olympic rules... Their games will be very different. Why is this a hard concept to grasp around here?
Most of what you said is irrelevant to the point. Kosen Judo being practiced by a small group of people nowadays has no bearing on it being a style or not. Having a different belt system or not means nothing. Wrestling has no belt system and there are many different styled of wrestling. Folk style wrestling practiced in highschools and colleges of the U.S. is a different style than freestyle wrestling found in the Olympics. Same thing with Kosen and Olympic Judo. They are different styles of Judo. The rules are quite different which leads to different tactics being developed. The Kosen Judo guys have always been there own niche group within but quite distinctive from the Kodokan. ofcourse great Judoka no matter where they come from, go on the complete in Olympic Judo because that is the most prestigious platform in the world for Judo. There is no Olympic sport for Kosen. Just like there is no Olympic sport for American folkstyle wrestling. If they want to compete they have to do freestyle.
Koji Komuro, one of the greatest examples for this generation for Kosen style, competed, and still competes in Olympic Judo. I have his book and all of his DVDs, and he constantly refers to the newaza he's teaching as Kosen Judo. I think he knows what Kosen Judo is or isn't better than you.
This dude that trains at the "SEARCH FUNCTION" gym probably could have solved this.
Get a load of this post from 2005!
Since someone necro'd this thread.
Imagine saying that now?
Oh how the game has changed!