black farmers were sold fake crop seeds to drive them into bankruptcy

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  1. Farmer Br0wn

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    Liquid (for soy). It's expensive and you have to use it quickly after you open it, but in the end it's worth it.
     
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    That’s what we usually use but we tried the graphite crap this year and never again.
     
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    Good to know. I've heard it was a pain in the ass, but I've just never dealt with it personally. Sounds like I'll try and keep it that way lol.

    Be safe, and travel well friend.
     
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    panamaican Senior Moderator Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Yes.

    That's why it doesn't make sense to speculate about if the farmers were the reason the yield was poor. They know that the seeds they received were not the certified seeds. The only thing left to intelligently discuss is how the farmers ended up with fraudulent seeds and whether or not the distributor was racially motivated in how he practiced this con.
     
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    Precisely. The OP was very clear on that, but isn't it interesting how a certain predictable contingent sounds soooo sure it's really likely the farmers are at fault and they are just lying to cover it up, hm?
     
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    No, that's not the only way it makes sense, but I agree it it seems most likely.
    It was right in the OP.
     
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    To be thorough, some white people seeds need tested. What if everyone got the swapped out seeds, that while weren't the certified strain, were fully capable of producing? If then it could be shown there are in fact differences in techniques used...based on skin color... Yeah, that's all I got. :D
     
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    At least you're trying and it's the effort that matters, lol.
     
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    Well, we've all seen enough times around here where facts come to light and the pitchfork people end up looking foolish. Trying also to think about it from the perspective of a real court and not just public opinion, since it sounds like that's where it's gonna get settled.
     
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    That's what the lawsuit is for, innit? I thought everyone was on the same page on that score.
    Edit: where I take issue is after filing a lawsuit, presumably having been taken on by a lawyer because it appears to have merit, unless he's corrupt too, and with an OP that says the accusation is backed up by evidence of wrongdoing, the default response of a very particular group here is that they must be making it up or are just inherently bad farmers.
     
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    I think you just lost me. :(
     
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    The people in the OP have filed a lawsuit. They are handing the issue over to the courts to be decided. If their accusation is legitimate, presumably a court of law is the best place to prove it. If it's not, we'll find out and then they will have ruined their credibility as well as their livelihoods and good riddance to bad rubbish. But if it's true, it's shitty on a massive scale. It's an incredible accusation.

    Oh and LOL at the suggestion earlier that it's bad business to be racist in farming.
     
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    Thanks.
     
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    I thought it was because of his small "hands"
     
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    How would they know that? Were they a totally different breed of soy?

    Also, I haven't really heard one way or the other, was it only black people this happened to?
     
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    What we have here are allegations of a racist conspiracy to explain these farmers' low crop yield.

    But one thing is clear from the story: the seeds were not actually "fake." Even assuming the "experts" they hired are correct (and they may not be), the seeds were still normal soy beans; they just weren't name brand ("Stine" is the brand). If the seeds were indeed switched, perhaps the motive was just good ol' fashioned greed, and had nothing to do with race (making the case much less interesting). But they haven't ruled out the possibility that these particular farmers did something else to reduce their yield. Perhaps they used the wrong type of fertilizer. Perhaps they planted the seeds too deeply, or not deeply enough. Or perhaps a third party is to blame – either for something done to the seeds, or to the field.

    And there's one possibility which I will never rule out in 2018: the farmers could have fabricated this story entirely, for attention, money, or to deflect blame. Anyone who jumps on this outrage train based upon the filing of the complaint is an idiot. At least wait until discovery is done.
     
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    Money > Racism
     
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    Hey, welcome to the party. We were talking about the people who wrote long defenses putting the blame on the farmers.
     
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    Again the fact that it suprises you that there is a black anything is laughable. I am sorry you can’t handle a little teasing over it, I am not “literally hitler”ing you, LOL.
     
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    Especially in a commodity buisness, like seeds, not like the supplier has some kind of lock on the consumer. So that makes sense. I still think it’s possible, but if the distributor was larger / established, I would be more doubtful.
     

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