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Fraid the shades wont cover up the tint of my skinYou can borrow 'em anytime, man.
Fraid the shades wont cover up the tint of my skinYou can borrow 'em anytime, man.
You can borrow 'em anytime, man.
The CIA also brought in powder cocaine purchased mostly by whites and heroin purchased by everyone. Don't believe everything you read. Blacks had cocaine and heroin available to them but choose crack just like they had chosen crack before.Sounds like a silly conspiracy theory like the CIA bringing in crack.
Smells like bullshit. What is the motivation for the seed seller to give a paying customer garbage seeds? Makes no business sense.
I don't believe that @Seano is a bonafide racist. I think he's someone who is suspicious and cynical about modern African-American culture, particularly some of the values that have managed to take hold it, or at least gain pervasiveness within it, and I would be a chicken shit if I didn't voice that I share many of his concerns and cynicism. I saw that story. I was amazed anyone would blame the kid following what every authority had to say on the matter, the cam evidence, etc, but I also notice that progressives never question anyone on their side of the aisle who is skeptical of authority narratives pertaining to racially sensitive matters.@Seano
He really left his mark in a thread about a black kid who was shot at by white homeowners when he asked them for directions because they were block parents. Even though the police used video to confirm his story, Seano (and others) spent the entire thread arguing that the homeowners were in the right because they couldn't believe the black kid wasn't burglarizing them.
It was a real tour de stupid force.
Smells like bullshit. What is the motivation for the seed seller to give a paying customer garbage seeds? Makes no business sense.
The risk to their business isn't in the appeal of their product when legitimately and honestly delivered to the customer farmers.The story is pretty straightforward and believable. The black farmers are alleging that the distributor switched out the seeds. They are not speculating. They got the local university to test the seeds and those tests revealed that the seeds they received were not authentic Stine seeds
The Stine seed company is included in the lawsuit because the distributor is their agent and they, the seed company, possibly bear legal responsibility for the distributor's actions. Stine didn't commit the fraud, per the allegation.
As to why the distributor would do that? To re-sell the seeds a second time for more profit. Or to harm the black farmers financially and make it possible for someone the distributor knows to purchase the land.
Would this hurt the distributor's business? No. The people who got legitimate seeds will have no reason to stop using the Stine company or the distributor. They got what they paid for. Would you stop buying Nike sneakers because some other customer got screwed on a purchase? Of course not, you'd only stop if you were the screwed customer. And here, they don't care about the black famers not buying from them because they can sell the legit seeds for profit or acquire the land, also for profit. This only harms the distributor if the scheme is discovered before the profit is realized.
Is it race motivated? That's harder to prove. If they overwhelmingly targeted black farmers for this scheme then racism certainly becomes more plausible. If they distributed the fake seeds to a similar number of white farmers then it isn't.
I don't believe that @Seano is a bonafide racist. I think he's someone who is suspicious and cynical about modern African-American culture, particularly some of the values that have managed to take hold it, or at least gain pervasiveness within it, and I would be a chicken shit if I didn't voice that I share many of his concerns and cynicism. I saw that story. I was amazed anyone would blame the kid following what every authority had to say on the matter, the cam evidence, etc, but I also notice that progressives never question anyone on their side of the aisle who is skeptical of authority narratives pertaining to racially sensitive matters.
They will literally watch the same bodycam video of Aldon Sterling that I did and come to a different conclusion. They will make every effort to see what they want to see, and not what is apparent. It's stuff like Ahmed the clock kid that creates this distrust, Joe. It's not necessarily racism. It's a cynicism that extends to the belief that even the authorities are sometimes the manipulated dupes.
You are not above Seano in demonstrating a lack of bias, or a willingness to see both sides.
You don't see a motivation for a seed distributor to replace expensive seed with cheap seed before selling it to someone? My guess at motive would be a higher profit margin. A gas station in VA many years ago was pumping cheap gas out of the Premium pumps for just the same reason.
Before this forum gets hysterical I want to point out that what we have right now is circumstantial evidence of outright sabotage (as @jefferz pointed out, even non-certified seeds should have a higher germination rate, so these yields would likely reflect active sabotage). Still, circumstantial evidence is still evidence.
This isn't a forum that emphasizes certainty of proof as a chief value. Conjecture and hypothesis rule, here.
Since such targeted sabotage seems like one of the dumbest possible crimes a corporation could commit, and all but the very dumbest Trumpets I know would understand that the new zeitgeist wouldn't extend to sympathy for anything as grossly repugnant as a crime like this, my suspicion is that poor handling or storage somehow damaged the seeds. But there are people like the Bundys out there. There are people capable of this, or who maybe are so racist they thought the black farmers wouldn't be smart enough to get suspicious, and take their seed to a university.
I honestly don't know what to think. It seems very feeble. You would expect their lawyer to have something more substantial to say at this point than to grandstand about "weaponizing" the seeds. Simultaneously, it raises my suspicions.
The risk to their business isn't in the appeal of their product when legitimately and honestly delivered to the customer farmers.
This is the great logical failing of your post. You're presuming obliviousness to the potential backlash from the race angle. No white businessman in this country is oblivious to this threat in 2018.
After losing millions of dollars, the farmers took the seeds to experts at Mississippi State University to have them tested. They say the tests show the seeds sold to the black farmers were not certified Stine seeds.
Forcing people into servitude by subterfuge AND taking the lands they own rarely does...
The story is pretty straightforward and believable. The black farmers are alleging that the distributor switched out the seeds. They are not speculating. They got the local university to test the seeds and those tests revealed that the seeds they received were not authentic Stine seeds
The Stine seed company is included in the lawsuit because the distributor is their agent and they, the seed company, possibly bear legal responsibility for the distributor's actions. Stine didn't commit the fraud, per the allegation.
As to why the distributor would do that? To re-sell the seeds a second time for more profit. Or to harm the black farmers financially and make it possible for someone the distributor knows to purchase the land.
Would this hurt the distributor's business? No. The people who got legitimate seeds will have no reason to stop using the Stine company or the distributor. They got what they paid for. Would you stop buying Nike sneakers because some other customer got screwed on a purchase? Of course not, you'd only stop if you were the screwed customer. And here, they don't care about the black famers not buying from them because they can sell the legit seeds for profit or acquire the land, also for profit. This only harms the distributor if the scheme is discovered before the profit is realized.
Is it race motivated? That's harder to prove. If they overwhelmingly targeted black farmers for this scheme then racism certainly becomes more plausible. If they distributed the fake seeds to a similar number of white farmers then it isn't.
Why bring me into this, I have no problem with black people. I didn’t even know there were black farmers.
I believe I can express contempt for certain aspects of black culture without being "racist". Hating actions isn't the same as hating people.I don't believe that @Seano is a bonafide racist. I think he's someone who is suspicious and cynical about modern African-American culture, particularly some of the values that have managed to take hold it, or at least gain pervasiveness within it, and I would be a chicken shit if I didn't voice that I share many of his concerns and cynicism. I saw that story. I was amazed anyone would blame the kid following what every authority had to say on the matter, the cam evidence, etc, but I also notice that progressives never question anyone on their side of the aisle who is skeptical of authority narratives pertaining to racially sensitive matters.
They will literally watch the same bodycam video of Aldon Sterling that I did and come to a different conclusion. They will make every effort to see what they want to see, and not what is apparent. It's stuff like Ahmed the clock kid that creates this distrust, Joe. It's not necessarily racism. It's a cynicism that extends to the belief that even the authorities are sometimes the manipulated dupes.
You are not above Seano in demonstrating a lack of bias, or a willingness to see both sides.