Social Black Panther (War Room Discussion)

Western civilisation was pushed forward by less than 1%of its population. For the vast majority of it’s history practically everyone in it had been just as poor and illiterate as any third world populace.

Also Africa is a continent not a county. If you want avoid sounding ignorant maybe use specific nations for your argument.( It’s apparently one of the most culturally diverse places on Earth )
And yet Western civilizations have prospered while Africa remains a "shithole" as Trump puts it bluntly. When Europe was undergoing industrial revolution, most of Africa was still stuck in tribal societal cultures. Where did I say Africa is a country? You might want to check your reading comprehension. Name a single country in Africa that's remotely on par with the Western world, in terms of HDI, life expectancy or literacy.
 
God your simple.

Reread my original post in response to another post about the achievements of western civilisation.

Then take a seat. Give yourself a minute to let your brain get going. Have a moment of clarity, and realise how ridiculous it is that you thought I was pushing a stormfront narrative.
Have you heard your argument yet? It's spot on Stormfront


Haven't heard these legendary specifics you're sitting on revealing, aside from a 1% world population figure you pulled out of your ass
 
Have you heard your argument yet? It's spot on Stormfront


Haven't heard these legendary specifics you're sitting on revealing, aside from a 1% world population figure you pulled out of your ass

He wasn't talking about 1% of the world population, he was talking about 1% of the population of the "west".
 
And yet Western civilizations have prospered while Africa remains a "shithole" as Trump puts it bluntly. When Europe was undergoing industrial revolution, most of Africa was still stuck in tribal societal cultures. Where did I say Africa is a country? You might want to check your reading comprehension. Name a single country in Africa that's remotely on par with the Western world, in terms of HDI, life expectancy or literacy.

Yeah, unsurprisingly, you don't know a fucking thing about African history or the impact of European intervention.

I'm going to go out on a huuuuge limb and guess that you're a white male with limited education.
 
And yet Western civilizations have prospered while Africa remains a "shithole" as Trump puts it bluntly. When Europe was undergoing industrial revolution, most of Africa was still stuck in tribal societal cultures. Where did I say Africa is a country? You might want to check your reading comprehension. Name a single country in Africa that's remotely on par with the Western world, in terms of HDI, life expectancy or literacy.
i dont know what the point of your thread is......do you just want to put africans down as they havent modernized as well as europeans? Yes we realize the film is all fiction but why not let a community which isnt as a whole doing well in america get some pride to better itself? Isnt the whole point to raise all boats thus make for a better society? some people help in keeping certain communities down and than whine on why they cant change for the better.
 
Yeah, unsurprisingly, you don't know a fucking thing about African history or the impact of European intervention.

I'm going to go out on a huuuuge limb and guess that you're a white male with limited education.
A supporter of a mass murdering ideology built around class struggle want to talk about limited education? News flash, your beliefs have been ditched in the dirt since USSR collapsed.

Africa, with its abundance of resources, remained technologically primitive societies prior to the arrival of European colonial powers. Now name a single country in Africa that has comparable HDI to any of the western nations. Hell, I'll even let you count former Warsaw Pact countries in Eastern Europe just to make it easier on you.

i dont know what the point of your thread is......do you just want to put africans down as they havent modernized as well as europeans? Yes we realize the film is all fiction but why not let a community which isnt as a whole doing well in america get some pride to better itself? Isnt the whole point to raise all boats thus make for a better society? some people help in keeping certain communities down and than whine on why they cant change for the better.

I'm just saying taking pride in a fictional fantasy about your continent reveals how hopeless the place actually is. Do they really have nothing else to be proud of other than a work of fiction intended for profit?
 
And yet Western civilizations have prospered while Africa remains a "shithole" as Trump puts it bluntly. When Europe was undergoing industrial revolution, most of Africa was still stuck in tribal societal cultures. Where did I say Africa is a country? You might want to check your reading comprehension. Name a single country in Africa that's remotely on par with the Western world, in terms of HDI, life expectancy or literacy.
yeah, while Europe was doing that whole 'industrial revolution' they were ALSO chopping Africa up into little fiefdoms and genociding the shit out of the local populations. Look up Belgian Congo if you want a quick glimpse into how hard it is to suddenly become a 1st world power when you got THAT little nightmare show going on...


you REALLY should have picked a better timeframe than 'victorian era/industrial revolution' to prove some kind of point. The world was in full on 'fuck africa as hard as possible and burn the corpse' mode during that time frame. a little later and you can point at Ethiopia, an Africa country trying full tilt to modernize, getting pimped handed by Italy and a league of nations that couldnt be bothered.

So lets not act as if Africa has had a fair shake. Africa tried plenty of times to get its shit together only to be kicked back down the hole again again.
 
To be fair, Blade was rated R. You could call this the first family friendly black super hero movie in a very long time.
 
yeah, while Europe was doing that whole 'industrial revolution' they were ALSO chopping Africa up into little fiefdoms and genociding the shit out of the local populations. Look up Belgian Congo if you want a quick glimpse into how hard it is to suddenly become a 1st world power when you got THAT little nightmare show going on...


you REALLY should have picked a better timeframe than 'victorian era/industrial revolution' to prove some kind of point. The world was in full on 'fuck africa as hard as possible and burn the corpse' mode during that time frame. a little later and you can point at Ethiopia, an Africa country trying full tilt to modernize, getting pimped handed by Italy and a league of nations that couldnt be bothered.

So lets not act as if Africa has had a fair shake. Africa tried plenty of times to get its shit together only to be kicked back down the hole again again.
What were African tribes/kingdoms doing before European colonial powers arrived? Before industrial revolution, European powers had already experienced the Renaissance, Age of Discovery and Age of Enlightenment. Africa was, well, being Africa. That doesn't justify the slave trade and years of oppressive colonial rule, but to say Africa never had a fair shake at the start?

China, Japan and Korea got their asses handed to them by Western powers around 18th to 19th century, and yet they were able to pick themselves back up.
 
I'm just saying taking pride in a fictional fantasy about your continent reveals how hopeless the place actually is. Do they really have nothing else to be proud of other than a work of fiction intended for profit?

Africa isnt just all wasteland that your trying to portray it to be.....there are some very modern areas in places like ghana, nigeria, botswana, and namibia.....
 
Western civilisation was pushed forward by less than 1%of its population. For the vast majority of it’s history practically everyone in it had been just as poor and illiterate as any third world populace.

Also Africa is a continent not a county. If you want avoid sounding ignorant maybe use specific nations for your argument.( It’s apparently one of the most culturally diverse places on Earth )

How could you state that Western civilization was propelled forth by 1% of it's population? Seriously?

Artists
Soldiers
Scientists/Natural Philosophers
Philosophers
Doctors
Inventors
Engineers
Architects
Historians
Statesman
Clergy
Painters
Military strategists
Laborers of countless types

and people from countless other fields all worked to push forward this thing we call the west. People conquering other nations, cross pollinating memes, cultural norms, languages, and advancements from the fields above were regular, and civilizations helped and hindered each other in numerous ways.

That 1% calculation is obscene in it's error.
 
Africa isnt just all wasteland that your trying to portray it to be.....there are some very modern areas in places like ghana, nigeria, botswana, and namibia.....
And yet these countries remain "shitholes" as a whole when measured against any western societies. Africans are flocking to Europe by the hundreds of thousands, not the other way around.
 
And yet these countries remain "shitholes" as a whole when measured against any western societies. Africans are flocking to Europe by the hundreds of thousands, not the other way around.
a lot of western europeans/american ladies flock to africa
 
The Europeanised parts of South Africa.

Looking at entire countries, Mauritius does alright. It's a fair step from there to Tunisia and then Gabon though.
Massive inequality is of course the defining problem.
 
a lot of western europeans/american ladies flock to africa
A drop in the bucket compared to African migration to Western societies

Look, you want to stick up for Africans or Africa, that's great. I wish Africans the best of luck in advancing their societies forward, but this whole black pride thing in "Wakanda" isn't grounded in reality. Optimism not tempered by facts are simply fantasies.
 
How could you state that Western civilization was propelled forth by 1% of it's population? Seriously?

Artists
Soldiers
Scientists/Natural Philosophers
Philosophers
Doctors
Inventors
Engineers
Architects
Historians
Statesman
Clergy
Painters
Military strategists
Laborers of countless types

and people from countless other fields all worked to push forward this thing we call the west. People conquering other nations, cross pollinating memes, cultural norms, languages, and advancements from the fields above were regular, and civilizations helped and hindered each other in numerous ways.

That 1% calculation is obscene in it's error.
Thank Ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia....and plenty of other advancements in math,engineering,etc that Europe took from.
 
What were African tribes/kingdoms doing before European colonial powers arrived? Before industrial revolution, European powers had already experienced the Renaissance, Age of Discovery and Age of Enlightenment. Africa was, well, being Africa. That doesn't justify the slave trade and years of oppressive colonial rule, but to say Africa never had a fair shake at the start?

China, Japan and Korea got their asses handed to them by Western powers around 18th to 19th century, and yet they were able to pick themselves back up.

Parts of Africa still adhered to nomadic subsistence, but not all. Africa is an extremely diverse place. By the time the colonial powers came, numerous kingdoms in Africa were in operation, and had vastly different cultures, and levels of sophistication.

You had empires of the Ancient world:

Egypt
Carthage
Kush
Kerma
Vandals/Alans

And during the colonial time, and shortly before:

Wattasid
Mamluk
Almohad
Alodia
Hafsid

and many others.

Also, Japan and China have not had foreign nations buy up contracts with Western nations, effectively offshoring all natural commodities the people themselves could profit from. Sure, you might want to simply blame this on corrupt leadership, but the offers of Western 1st world powers are not to be denied by smaller, less powerful nations.
 
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