Boxing Is Not Easier Than MMA (Luke Thomas point)

Boxing requires more skill imo, they're focusing on a more limited form of fighting so have more time to refine their particular skill set. MMA is a lot less forgiving so upsets are more common and there are many more options to win a fight. James Toney was a fat short lard towards the latter part of his career, he didn't maintain diet, he didn't have proper training regimes but what he did have, was an incredible set of skills that were enough to able him to compete at the highest level without a heavy emphasis on strength and conditioning, improving training techniques, camps etc

We have very few guys that excel in every aspect of MMA like Fedor, GSP, MM, etc for most part mma fighters are still specialists.
 
A guy who never boxed in his life on a pro lever fought the best in the world, and took him 10 rounds, and won rounds. And stop with all the excuses. He's 40, retired, carried. Matt Serra Serra is 43, and hasn't fought in 7 years. Let's see Lomachanko come in and go 10 rounds and win 3 of them. He won't last a minute.

What happened when Michael Page , an MMA fighter decided to go to boxing.




And what happened when pro boxer, Heather Hardy, undefeated champion came to MMA?
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She lost her nose.

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Her opponent, a ta kwondo champion, never took her down once. She stood and banged. Kept her distance from the punches and just kicked the shit out of her. That's all you have to do to a pro boxer. They can't do shit without boxing rules against any martial artist, or wrestler.

And whoever tries to bring up Holly Holm she was a kickboxer before she was a boxer. 6 amateur fights, undefeated, and 3 pro fights, 2-1. And her trainer was the same guy, her whole career. An MMA guy, and pro kick boxer. Never a boxer.

Why mention Michael Page? He has fought nothing but bums in his whole career. The 'boxer' he fought lost like 10 fights out of 14 lol.

But no, Mayweather did carry McGregor. If he were a high-output striker, McGregor would have been finished by the fifth. Stop lying to yourself.
 
...in b4 MMA is "real" fighting...which it's not.
Yes, this is one take that MMA fans need to accept... it was so stupid saying that Mayweather wouldn't last 5 mins in a real fight, because fighting in a cage with controlled rules is a 'real' fight...
 
I agree with Luke. Boxer work on perfecting boxing, mma fighters work on making the respected arts work for them, which opens the real of luck etc into wins. Styles make fights and in most mma fights, it is essentially one striker is a lot better of a striker than the opponent, but he gets knocked out anyway because of the small gloves.

Boxing has more limited tools to work with, so you need to perfect the sport and technique in order to successfully land anything. That is why semi-decent wrestlers can take down mma fighters who know a bit of wrestling. You don't see semi-decent boxers hanging with the top boxers.
 
How hard any form of competition is is based on how many people are trying to make it to the top.
 
A guy who never boxed in his life on a pro lever fought the best in the world, and took him 10 rounds, and won rounds. And stop with all the excuses. He's 40, retired, carried. Matt Serra Serra is 43, and hasn't fought in 7 years. Let's see Lomachanko come in and go 10 rounds and win 3 of them. He won't last a minute.

What happened when Michael Page , an MMA fighter decided to go to boxing.




And what happened when pro boxer, Heather Hardy, undefeated champion came to MMA?
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She lost her nose.

715x402_374247_20171021194822.jpg


DMoOU7QWAAE2jbX.jpg


Her opponent, a ta kwondo champion, never took her down once. She stood and banged. Kept her distance from the punches and just kicked the shit out of her. That's all you have to do to a pro boxer. They can't do shit without boxing rules against any martial artist, or wrestler.

And whoever tries to bring up Holly Holm she was a kickboxer before she was a boxer. 6 amateur fights, undefeated, and 3 pro fights, 2-1. And her trainer was the same guy, her whole career. An MMA guy, and pro kick boxer. Never a boxer.


MVP beat a tomato can
 
To quote Bruce Lee "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times.".

MMA is more effective in "real" fighting but boxing and learning the intricacies of a single discipline is much more challenging.
 
A guy who never boxed in his life on a pro lever fought the best in the world, and took him 10 rounds, and won rounds. And stop with all the excuses. He's 40, retired, carried. Matt Serra Serra is 43, and hasn't fought in 7 years. Let's see Lomachanko come in and go 10 rounds and win 3 of them. He won't last a minute.

What happened when Michael Page , an MMA fighter decided to go to boxing.




And what happened when pro boxer, Heather Hardy, undefeated champion came to MMA?
giphy.gif

She lost her nose.

715x402_374247_20171021194822.jpg


DMoOU7QWAAE2jbX.jpg


Her opponent, a ta kwondo champion, never took her down once. She stood and banged. Kept her distance from the punches and just kicked the shit out of her. That's all you have to do to a pro boxer. They can't do shit without boxing rules against any martial artist, or wrestler.

And whoever tries to bring up Holly Holm she was a kickboxer before she was a boxer. 6 amateur fights, undefeated, and 3 pro fights, 2-1. And her trainer was the same guy, her whole career. An MMA guy, and pro kick boxer. Never a boxer.


this may be the longest, most well prepared troll post of all time
 
To me it's like asking what requires more skills. MMA or Football. Different sports, different skills. Sure some skills might cross platforms but both require just as much skill.

nah dude that's waaaaay too much logic. haha jk you spoke my thoughts exactly.
 
Yep. Deeper talent pool, and people overly lacking in any 1 area - skill, stamina, chin, or power being the most likely - they'll get weeded out long before they reach elite level.

It's why it's impossible to get people basically strolling into boxing and becoming hugely successful after just a couple of years, as is possible in MMA.

It's an old sport, and the level of craft and experience required to reach elite level is much, much higher than MMA.
This. End Thread. In MMA you can actually be lacking in certain areas and still be siccessful at the elite level. In boxing , you cant do that. Like yoh said if you even have slightly below average footwork you'll get weeded out immideatly.
 
Ok everyones getting really insecure in this thread so lets have a reality check.

Among all sports both MMA and boxing are relatively low in how difficult it is for the average person to become elite. There several examples of guys starting in their late teens or early 20's (Deontay Wilder, Damien Maia) and going on to world class status. This is quite simply impossible in many other sports regardless of how hard you work.

Gymnastics: If you didn't start at 3 and don't happen to be tiny you CAN"T succeed.
Basketball: Under 6'3?? Not black? You are almost certainly fucked. If you start playing after high school you will probably never even become competent in pick up games.
100m dash: LOL
Bodybuilding: 90% genetics. If you happen to have short muscle insertions you're fucked.
Competitve Call of Duty: Starting at 20? You will NEVER be able to develop the the fine motor skills that these little 12 years have been absorbing into their sponge like brains. They're going to say that they fucked your mom and you can do nothing but take it and offer them prima nocta on your wedding night.

Now does all of this mean that boxing and MMA are inferior to these sports? No, they're all different and for whatever reason we like the ones that we like. There's no need to get all insecure if someone feels differently and make posts that really are subconsciously about your penis.
 
Here's a litmus test. Despite having no mma background how did Bob Sapp fuck up Big Nog in his prime?

Sapp would have gotten mauled against any top 10 HW boxer at the time yet was fucking up Big Nog who was the #1 ranked MMA HW in the world.

MMA isn't a martial art. It's just an open style competition.
 
MMA is a jack of trades master of none sport.

Not really a criticism of MMA more of a legitimate logical perception of the sport.

It's literally impossible to be elite at wrestling, kick boxing and ju jitsu. It's difficult to be elite at any of them as it takes a lot of training and experience.

Guys like Lomachenko or Rigondaux started boxing when they were really young. Most MMA guys are taking up these disciplines in their 20's.
 
The more variables there are, the more luck plays a part.

Less variables require more skill, concentration, strategy, etc.
 
Chess and golf have an even bigger talent pool than boxing.

Its very hard to become a Kasparov or a Tiger.

In some ways with the rules limiting the ways to strike and grapple, boxing is like chess and golf in that I can respect the skills involved but I would still rather watch mma.

Also mma is constantly evolving and its talent pool expanding.

Boxing talent pool is probably down from its heyday. Probably a lot of athletes would rather get that mlb, nfl or nba money.

That's fair enough. I am a hardcore boxing fan and have boxed myself - but I can't lie I do go through stretches of watching (and enjoying) more MMA. In MMA you just get a fuck load of good fights happening all the time, great matchups, and a lot of fun, action fights.

I love the high skill level in boxing, and appreciate it a lot. I find boxing matches more rewatchable than MMA for that reason.

IMO there are two problems in boxing - first off elite fighters are often so skilled and crafty and hard to hit, they kind of cancel each other out and it becomes a stalemate. Two, the cherrypicking and avoiding.

I really hope this Conor boxing and money era doesn't adopt that part of boxing, with avoiding and cherrypicking becoming the norm.

Overall though, nothing beats an elite boxing match for me, out of any combat sport. I've never seen an MMA fight I've enjoyed anywhere near as much as say Morales Vs Barrera 1, or Chico Vs Castillo 1, or Hagler Vs Hearns. I just wish you'd get more great matchups between prime elite fighters.
 
Yes, this is one take that MMA fans need to accept... it was so stupid saying that Mayweather wouldn't last 5 mins in a real fight, because fighting in a cage with controlled rules is a 'real' fight...

Exactly.

True warriors go out of their NOT to get into random street fights, because...DUH.

Boxers and cage fighters worth a tenth of a damn do not feel the need to prove anything to anyone in terms of...fighting for free on the street.

Meanwhile, Conor boasted about beating Floyd if it was a "real" fight...

lol

Conor was lucky that the ref stepped in before Conor was punched through the fucking ropes.
 
A guy who never boxed in his life on a pro lever fought the best in the world, and took him 10 rounds, and won rounds. And stop with all the excuses. He's 40, retired, carried. Matt Serra Serra is 43, and hasn't fought in 7 years. Let's see Lomachanko come in and go 10 rounds and win 3 of them. He won't last a minute.

What happened when Michael Page , an MMA fighter decided to go to boxing.




And what happened when pro boxer, Heather Hardy, undefeated champion came to MMA?
giphy.gif

She lost her nose.

715x402_374247_20171021194822.jpg


DMoOU7QWAAE2jbX.jpg


Her opponent, a ta kwondo champion, never took her down once. She stood and banged. Kept her distance from the punches and just kicked the shit out of her. That's all you have to do to a pro boxer. They can't do shit without boxing rules against any martial artist, or wrestler.

And whoever tries to bring up Holly Holm she was a kickboxer before she was a boxer. 6 amateur fights, undefeated, and 3 pro fights, 2-1. And her trainer was the same guy, her whole career. An MMA guy, and pro kick boxer. Never a boxer.


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